Well i setup a day 2 with this hb9. We went to one of my friends house to watch the Mayweather vs Marquez boxing match.

I could tell where I went wrong. I felt like I didn't talk enough to her, but I made her laugh everytime I did. Had small kino escalation with my arm around her sitting down.

She threw IOI's like crazy, playing with her hair, constantly putting lip gloss on, figiting with her nails, and had her leg shaking and hitting my leg constantly which got kind of annoying, she kept poking my side and I kept doing the same and so on.

Well I was driving her home and we stopped in front of her house and we talked for almost 1 1/2 hours straight.

She was telling me how she feels I'm too young for her (I'm 19 shes 23). She has a kid already. And I threw back the cocky attitude with, there is very people like me in this world cocky attitude.

She kept punching me everytime I playfully neg'd her, and we played around pinching and ticking each other.

Then she pulls out that LJBF bull crap.

I went to go for a kiss when saying goodbye and ended up on the cheek.


How in the world am I suppose to turn this around?!
...In the meantime I'll still keep going with other girls but this one girl i want to turn around so badly.

I think you did everything you could. When you were negging her, if she was responding with playful punches, then she likes you. It sounds like you really know what your doing, I think you have to look at the issue from her point of view. I'm sure she really likes you, but you mentioned she has a kid, and you're younger than her. When a women has a kid they feel like they will never find a guy, and they feel like a used car. She is thinking wow I really like this guy, but he will just leave me when the going gets tough with this situation. She is also thinking this guy is to young, and can't provide for my kid and I, which is going to be a huge factor in who she chooses to have a relationship with. I think you need to think long and hard about being with her, because the kid situation will make things difficult. Women with kids, have way different priorities than women without kids. If you still want to date her, show her that you are willing to put in the time, and effort. Don't be needy, and call/text her all the time, just show her you're understanding of the situation, and you are still interested.

Also try not caring for a day or two, have her text/call you first.

Some freeze-out technique if I remember the name correctly. Works well when done right. Ends it completely if it isn't the appropriate time or place.

damn good responses, thanks

Well after waiting a bit, we talked again and i explained how i understand the situation from her point of view after thinking "overnight".

Well we talked and laughed and well she said this

hb9: i guess the fact u have goals un like my ex being oldn still living pay check to pay check just wishing n hopein shit would gett better makes u better then him

exact words and she also said that "she can't belive she is actually considering me..."

she didn't want to explain why but i knew exactly haha.

So I'm out of the friends zone and we setup another date for this saturday

Aweome Chulo, good job

Haha small update on this...well I don't think i said it before, but the HB9 works with me at my job. And there are these other 2 girls there a 6 and a 7.

Well the 6 just told me today in an IM at work saying she likes me, and I had to blow her away, I don't feel that way about her plus she is not my type. But that just made her want me more, she is thinking I'm mad at her and I'm making her go crazy according to her.

Then there is another the HB7 who asked me a couple questions about myself before and smiles at me a lot. I was cleaning up a mess someone left in the break room (because I own a cleaning business as well haha) and she just randomly started to help me smiling. But I can't, because shes friends with the HB6.

Also all I want is the HB9 chick that everything is going good so far. I just don't want them other 2 girls messing this up for me haha they are evil.

Haha small update on this...well I don't think i said it before, but the HB9 works with me at my job. And there are these other 2 girls there a 6 and a 7.

Well the 6 just told me today in an IM at work saying she likes me, and I had to blow her away, I don't feel that way about her plus she is not my type. But that just made her want me more, she is thinking I'm mad at her and I'm making her go crazy according to her.

Then there is another the HB7 who asked me a couple questions about myself before and smiles at me a lot. I was cleaning up a mess someone left in the break room (because I own a cleaning business as well haha) and she just randomly started to help me smiling. But I can't, because shes friends with the HB6.

Also all I want is the HB9 chick that everything is going good so far. I just don't want them other 2 girls messing this up for me haha they are evil.

Haha small update on this...well I don't think i said it before, but the HB9 works with me at my job. And there are these other 2 girls there a 6 and a 7.

Well the 6 just told me today in an IM at work saying she likes me, and I had to blow her away, I don't feel that way about her plus she is not my type. But that just made her want me more, she is thinking I'm mad at her and I'm making her go crazy according to her.

Then there is another the HB7 who asked me a couple questions about myself before and smiles at me a lot. I was cleaning up a mess someone left in the break room (because I own a cleaning business as well haha) and she just randomly started to help me smiling. But I can't, because shes friends with the HB6.

Also all I want is the HB9 chick that everything is going good so far. I just don't want them other 2 girls messing this up for me haha they are evil.

Does it really matter if she says’s LGBF? I don't understand how it could. Maybe you can continue to think she is attracted to you? I got told, last week, by a girl I truly cared about that we should just be friends. It hurt me. My mouth started twitching, and I was outraged. I think she was scared of a relationship with me because our connection was too powerful. I didn't have my mind right and it was because of the fucking PUA strategies that she felt unsafe around me. All I had to do was be a little more laid back and secure with myself and she would have creamed in her pants. This fucking sucks.

How did I lose her? I am so upset about it. I wanted her, and I felt a connection to her, and I know she felt a connection to me. Sure! I was flirting with her a little bit, but overall I was using what I learned from PUAs to be fun, interesting, and assertive. I was too powerful and she didn't feel safe. I guess if I mastered the PUA skills I would be able to use my power to get her to have sex with me. I am horribly afraid of what will happen to me if I become a player for life. I am also scared of falling in love with her. The last time I tagged this once girl with a huge ass, and eventually I keep coming back for more. That lead to a commitment, and I felt trapped. I hated my life because I was ashamed of the girl because she allowed herself to be used. After 4 years we ended our relationships in extreme pain.

I have been on the recovery for 3 years now, and I think I am feeling ready to get a steady girlfriend. So, when I look at my most recent girl I see all the positive things I want to see. Similar to those girls who were desperate for a man, and when they looked at me they saw what they wanted to see, and ignored the warning signs. So, I fucked them and left them, just like I said I would.

I think that I saw her for more than what she really was, and that scared her because she didn’t feel safe to commit to me if I was going to leave her after she couldn’t hold up the expectations I hade of her. I think I wanted to her so bad that I ignored the negative things about her. She realized the pain we would both be in if we allowed are selves to feel.

I feel like every decision I make is allowing her to fall away from me. I didn't call her this weekend, and then she forgot to do her homework, but doing homework is her responsibilities not mine. I am not going to call her tomorrow and I don't know if she will study for the test. If she doesn't pass she will probably drop the class. If she drops the class I will most likely never have an opportunity to be with her again. I am concerned about this because we had such a strong connection. She is not even that hot. She is just like a 7. I just wanted to fuck her, and she knew me before I knew her. I don't know WTF is going on. This shit is fucking retarded. Why did she not allow herself to feel for me? I think it’s because of some stupid shit I must have said warning her about me, or my mischievous smile that works on the dumb whores who are blinded by their desperate attempt to find a good man. This girl does not have that blind need to be with someone. I think I might have it. I am so ready to be in a relationship that it hurts.

Why can’t I get with a woman who is sincere, funny, and everlasting? Why can't I find a girl who will support me, at the same time love me, keep me company, be friendly with my friends, show support to my habits of good choice, and be there for me. I need someone to be there for me. I am tired of having to be on my own. I am ready for a relationship. I have read the books on how to communicate. I have learned through college on how to interact. I am smart, intelligent, and strong. I have everything any women would want, except faithfulness. I think I lack the ability to be faithful. OMG I just figured my problem out. I don’t believe in myself to be trustworthy. It comes from my fathers negative habits placed upon me, and my horrible past. I need to change that thought. I need to become a believer in myself to be supportive and strong for a woman. If I expect her to be supportive and strong for me, how will she feel if I am not the same in return? This theory will work. I am so write because my friend Joey is so secure, and all the girls love and trust him. He would never do anything sexual to any of them except the one that he wants to commit to. He is a good person. I look up to him.

I want all HOT women. So, I have to train myself to be single, stabled and trusted. This is going to be a long journey. GOD fucking dam it! It took me a full two years to gain my confidence back. Now I have to spend time on being trusted. This fucking self help shit takes forever. Well I guess if I compare myself with my childhood -- twenty years of social life was replaced by two year of extreme social interaction-- that is very impressive.

I’m actually a strong person now. It’s really unbelievable how adaptive and intelligent I am. My mother didn't understand me for a long time because of the radical changes I made in college, and with the help of the "NO FEAR" attitude. I love my life very much. I am the happiest I have ever been, although, it’s very hard for me to be single in my current state of being. I want to be supported. I deserve that because I have worked so hard to be with a woman of my dreams. Who supports me, comforts me, and makes me a better person. I truly believe in what I am writing now. I want the whole world to know that I am going to be married within 3 years. I have only one year to find a wife. I will find her.

Some people say my determination will not allow me to be natural. They say once they stop looking that is when they find there true love. But GOD dam it! I’m too stubborn for that. Why do I have to give up? I can't give up. It’s not in my blood to give up. I am a competitor now. I have NO FEAR and I will never give up. I try until I die! Why can't I just find a fucking girl to be with for the rest of my life? Where the fucks are you?

Maybe I am looking in the wrong spots. Maybe my college is a liberal college, and I need a conservative girl. What do you guys think? If you are not qualified to answer me, then please don't. I just want someone who is happily married to guide me into the right position. I don't want fucking lines and routines to lead me to some enlighten path of single life. I want to raise a family! Why do I have to sit here and type up this fucking message? I shouldn't have to do this shit anymore. I need a good damn girlfriend. WTF am I doing wrong.

Maybe I am working too much on my career. Maybe I need to spend less time in school and more time relaxing and finding a girl. I will discuss with my life advisor. She is in a happy relationship for over two years with a guy. She is a graduate from a nice school. She has a nice family upbringing. She is the LOVE of my life. I want a woman like her. She guided me to where I am today, and with the help of the PUA no fear philosophy.

Wow I think I am done. Now I will talk to her about my purpose. I need to get my shit together. Life is very challenging.

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Walk Hard

Hey I skimmed through your post, it was kinda long I'll read it completely when I'm home from work but form what it sounds is that your letting girls get to your head too much.

I mixed my own natural instinct with some PUA techniques with this girl. I said my say to her after she said lets just be friends and it had her thinking all night about what i said.

Now what really got her to want me is all the other girls wanting me at my job. I mean I just kissed her literally like 10 minutes ago here at work at her desk no one saw, and we kissed for the first time.

I'm focusing a lot on my career, working full time job during the day and running my business at night that I'm hoping it will flourish greatly. And girls see that when you are taking positive steps in your life.

You complete your goals, you feel very happy and confident. Girls want that piece of happiness in their life. So when you have all girls trying to get with you, you just make a decision.

Me and this HB9 is going to happen, we are going to get in a relationship I already see it and she keeps hinting me on it. I'll see where it goes from there.


The way I work with girls is I don't use completely everything I learned from here and videos of a PUA, I mix up my own natural instinct because we all have instincts we just have to find it, take control of your fears because fear is a very powerful emotion and mix it up a little bit with PUA.

To be down to the point on what I did, I noticed all the IOI's and hints from PUA information, and I used my own type of game to get with her and it worked.


Be yourself....big thing

Oh damn I got the chance to read all of that post that time. Wow, you went from being down to being high to being down again all within one post. Your taking things too seriously. Enjoy life, it is too short. It's good you have a no fear attitude because fear is a very strong emotion.

Well like I said before, take care of yourself, if you can take care of yourself girls will see that and would want you to take care of them as well as them taking care of you. Be funny and yourself.

Develop your own style to show who you are, like I did, mix PUA with natural actions.

I didn't expect to have that girl in my job, I came here for work and ended up having all these girls wanting me because they see I'm a responsible young guy. I'm only 19 years old and have these older girls wanting me, because I take care of myself and have a lot to show for it. Business owner as well as my daytime job and so on.