I think I am just going to leave this forum and forget about being a PUA. I just have no social skills and cannot talk to women at all. I don't understand humanity and probably never will. But the bottom line is I am not interesting and you need to be in order to attract women. I don't belong here. Good luck guys.

listen to a few good podcasts.

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"Do not fear the unknown - embrace it."

hey if you give up thats one less person with a negative attitude on the board...no one is going to feel sorry for you but yourself

theres obvious things you need to change inside yourself and if you dont get that done now its going to be there forever

I have hardly done anything to improve myself PUA-wise for ages. And when I do do something, it's once in a blue moon. I just don't motivate myself enough to approach chicks. Also, sometimes I give advice on this forum which doesn't stem from my own personal experience. But if it's one thing I WON'T DO, is give up.

I've been realizing lately that I've got to have faith in myself that I will become the person I want to become. Instead of getting stuck in my head trying to change myself mentally, which only leads to resistance and destruction; I must like who I am and believe the normal, relaxed mindset I have is what's going to see me through to success. And the more I have that inner-game foundation firmly established the more I can look to the outer-game and the physical actions I can take to bring results. Why? Because it's infinitely harder and more stressful to do positive things when there is internal mental conflict.

So, to sum up, I think my inner game is fine. I've been working on that for years now. Now it's time I get out there and get busy physically. And to do that I REALLY need to believe in myself. It can be hard though, so I must be patient. And that's where I get jaded, because I become impatient.

Why don't I just go out now and approach lots of chicks? I don't know. Can't be bothered to be honest. Arrrgh! I can't even lie. I feel like I'm trapped in this mediocrity. That's it! I'm going! Enough procrastinating! Wish me luck!

wait, it said you registered here in early september. so you've been reading about PUA for less than a week and you're already giving up? dude, the best PUAs say it takes years. years! don't give up after a week. thats just silly

I agree with Ice.

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"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
"Do not fear the unknown - embrace it."

The fact that you're posting this message says that you don't want to give up. Mixed messages? Yes, but that's what it is. If you were truly going to give up you would leave no message at all. Now, based on the limited information that you've given I'm going to offer some advice.

One, you are being driven by your results. The code of virtue states that you never be driven by results. Results, on many occasions will be determined by luck. Luck, random variance, plays a huge part in everything and everywhere. Do not be discouraged by it. To use an old adage, "even a broken clock is right twice a day." Do not be driven by results. Instead be driven by the execution of perfect technique and form. There is too much chance involved in everything to rely on it. Rely on yourself.

Two, inner game is everything. It sounds like you struggle with self-esteem and value issues. It is impossible to demonstrate higher value to a female if you aren't made of higher value. This brings up the idea of where does value come from? Value does not come from some magical source or fountain of value. Value is not something you are born with. Value comes from within. You are the only person that can give value to yourself. You are the only person that can take it away. You were lead to believe that you are helpless and out of control of your destiny by everyone around you. Your family taught you your value, television shows you your value, high school bullies showed you your value, and all of them lied. None of them knew what you were worth. They couldn't. The absolute only place that value ever comes from is from within. You and are formed of the same decomposing matter as everyone else. You are no different than anyone else. Do not think you can, know you can.

To be frank, I'm not letting you quit. I don't know you personally, but I know your situation. You are not allowed to stop. Take a breather. Understand where your hangups are and return renewed in the belief that this works, that with every failure you are closer to success and to winning. This shit has little to do with women and everything to do with you as a person. Focus on your inner game. Focus on yourself as a person. Make yourself the most perfect individual that you can and you won't have a worry about women. Remember, there is no option of quitting. The only options you have are success and failure. What are you going to choose?

Imperial, get the FUCK back here now!
Your post obviously describes you. It describes me perfectly. It could describe a million other guys.

If you don't try you'll never get out of the hole.

Read Juggler, he's the master of interesting conversation.

Hope you read this man.
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He who makes a PUA out of himself accentuates the pleasure.

Well, I went out in an attempt at day sarging. And the first chick I saw ( HB8+) I ALMOST approached. I spotted her walking to the shops while I was driving. I parked the car and she was ahead of me, but I felt like I was on the virge of talking to her. It's a great feeling, where you just take the plunge and do it. But unfortuantely, I didn't take the plunge. I followed her a little into the shopping complex, feeling like running up to her to catch up, and she entered into the first shop, which I decided not to enter myself.

After that, I walked round the shops for a while but I didn't get that 'on the virge' feeling again. Maybe next time.

It's funny. I can imagine going up to girls easily now I'm sitting at home, but when I'm out on the field, fuck. It's even hard to get onto the field sometimes. Doesn't look like I'm gonna change overnight anytime soon...

dude how can u say ur hopeless no ones gonna feel bad and tell u to stay on u arenent intersting cause u think ur not interesting .if ur gonna give up for that then its pointless for u cause then ur never gonna make ur self intersting theres no such thing as i cant just i dont want to.not being mean just helpful hope u read this.

You know,you should really listen to these guys.

Cause trust me,NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.

It sounds harsh,and I dont think it's easy for anyone to say it,but dude,life isn't fair.

People run on their greed and desire.They worry solely about themselves,and could care less about others.

Women wont care if you're trying you're damnedest to change.They wont care If I try to change.They wont care if others are trying to change.

If you think you can't,ok,you can think that,and then Mr.AMOG in the corner will take her home,fuck her brains out,probably forget her since most AMOGS are douchebags,and you'll be at home,beating yourself up,saying "I could have had it",but end up repeating the process over and over and over again.

People are fucked up bro.They will always try to screw with you to get what you were wanting for themselves?

You think people will be like "Oh,poor imperial.I think we should help him.Dude's going through rough shit".

...fuck no.

It would be ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL if that were true,but it simply isnt.

And yes,as others have said,this post wasn't about you leaving.It is a cry for help,a plea to try and tell you "It's ok,things will get better".

...wake up.The world has no mercy for those who give up.To the victor goes the spoils.

Dude,we want you here.Just by knowing and being interest about the pick up world,you have proven to us that you wanted to change.

BUT,it's up to you now.You can quit,live a life of misery,and have no one ever REMEMBER you when you die,or,you can accept the fact that the world is one big evil pile of shit,with you at the bottom of a 900mile deep pit,with only a rope ladder leading up.You're gonna have to climb up and face the world,just like millions of others did.

Get your shit together.THE PRICE OF SUCCESS IS PAIN,WORK,BLOOD,SWEAT,AND DETERMINATION,but at the end,YOU WILL HAVE ATTAINED SOMETHING AS GOOD AS HEAVEN!

...with that said,Imperial:

Are you ready?

Wow. It is surprising that some people actually SEEM to care. But truth be told it is true that nobody really cares. It's every man for himself in life. Thanks for comments though.

Wow...how mellowdramatic.

Social skills are passed on by that damn social gene. You either are born with the social gene or not. However, if the faulty social gene was passed on to you; then some people had to have reproduce. Ergo, social skills are not the only thing that are getting people laid, there is always:

A. Money, ferraris, mansions and private jets. These will attract the ladies.
B. High status, practice your rock star skills and/or your acting abilities (your acting abilities seem pretty good).
C. Supermodel looks. Do you at least look like someone famous...Brad Pitt, Homer Simpson...?

And then there is the catagory of most of the population
D. Personality and social skills
Find a youtube video of Tony Robbins and work on your inner game. Make a video of yourself now and refer this as your starting point. Hell, we all have been or done AFC stuff in the past. It's best to laugh your ass off and not take things too seriously. These are skills you can use for any relationship, be it work, friendships and intimate. As Peter North said in his dating book "Penetrating Insights" (which is funny and sucky btw). "Life is too serious to be Too serious."

Dude, people can only care for you so much. True, there are some heartless dicks out there, but even genuine saints can't do all the work for you. To improve, requires your care. After all, your the one who knows yourself best. No one can get completely inside your head and say EXACTLY what's wrong. Only you can do that. And the fact you've been saying you're giving up, indicates your being ignorant of your inner/higher self, and you're looking for people to say what you need, instead of taking notice of what your inner self is loudly shouting at you. I am not gonna bother saying it, because you know exactly what it is.

Lol, Imperial, there something Pickup Gurus don't tell people but I think it's worth pointing out. You can read up and memorize everything possible about the pickup method and still be TERRIBLE at it. It really does take practice, and it's no fucking picnic, I would know. I'm still in the beginning stages trying to get comfortable with approach. Now I don't know where you're at, but it's obvious you've had a few rough nights at trying to put some of this stuff to work.

I find it's helps to have buddies with you that are positive minded, so you have a kind of base to retreat to after a botched set and just laugh it off. And if you don't have that, just start talking to guys if you have to, get comfortable approaching strangers, make friends, fill your phone up with as many numbers as you can. If you have the right internal AND external support, you'll feel like you can do anything. Just work on getting that and you'll be alright.