Well i've been using gamblers kino methods at the moment but trying over all to stay with the mystery method you know and then throwing in a bit of Sinn for charm and first interactions of the day, i will definatly have a look at that guy though. cheers what does he specialize in?

its hard to describe but he uses both direct and indirect at the same time
as well as magic and charm

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Modesty by name but not by nature

its hard to describe but he uses both direct and indirect at the same time
as well as magic and charm

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Modesty by name but not by nature

can't talk much now but jsut got back from school and bloody soaked... still it's working used even more kino, stepped it up a level as well as going making sure if i was sitting down and talking i would have our legs touching, at one point she got out her phone and said
"sorry i have to take this"
"okay cool"
(turn completely away and talked to someone else about 2 minutes later and what do you know?)
"sorry, what were we talking about?"
"uh... i somthing about being so god damn ugly?"
" shut up"
nice and simple haha
any of you know any books on posture, hand shaking, body language, talking, etc i should get?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0752 ... d_i=468294

One chapter on the language of romance but worth reading from beginning to end.

Thanks man il probably go out and buy that this weekend..

okay so today there was a twist in the pick up, V just decided at the end of a class as i was talking to her to just blank me all together? what should i do now blank for next day? or arh! what to do? it was just such a blatant put down, how can i a) avoid these in the future b) turn it on her???

alright guys thanks again

just bought a the book cheers its great jsut been paging through it.

you guys know some good openers? just for general stuff i just bought the rules of the game so i have to talk to 5 starngers as my first task lol

hey do you have the time
while your hear you could_____________ thanks

thats a rallly bold dress whats the story behind it, etc

i detect a bit of an accent were is from

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Modesty by name but not by nature

Hmm, asking for recommendations on local clubs and bars is always a good way of opening. That is if you're targeting the outgoing sort.

If she's not into that sort of thing, perhaps even that can be used as an opener. Also it depends on your surroundings really.

One which is inspired by someone else on this forum but altered by me, maybe try in HMV picking up a really sophisticated or violent or even gory horror movie like maybe for example Romper Stomper, Die Hard, A Clockwork Orange, Braveheart, Hostel, Evil Dead etc etc or something along those lines, then pick up a really cutesie kids TV DVD like maybe Postman Pat, Sesame Street or Teletubbies or whatever. Put them behind your back and approach the girl who is your target.

You: "Hi I was wondering if you could help me, I have a bit of a dilemma. I can't decide which to get, show 'violent action horror whatever movie' or 'cutesie TV show'.

Hopefully it should get a laugh, but try and lead it into a conversation. I have to admit I haven't tried this one yet so going to when the opportunity arises. Once you get past the opener you will be forced to think on your feet, but eventually you should get to a stage where such things can be forgotten about when your wits are quick. But we all have to start somewhere.

Turn up the night, that sounds bloody genius mate thanks ... il definetly use the one in hmv and il blog on how it goes...

and modesty i didnt really get your message? wanna repost lol

still getting very little feedback from V altogether so i m blanking her for the time being only stopping if asked somthing or to do a really good neg... sound good?

You don't need to tell me I'm a genius, I know that already.

Seriously though, send me a Private Message and a link to your blog and let me know. I'll try it out soon enough, however I can't claim all the credit, modified version from one using toothbrushes (Oral B one or Spider Man). However can be applied to anything, something like say CD's, say Beethoven or Nursery Rhymes, Violent Extreme Death Metal or the Spice Girls etc etc, just use it depending on the surroundings really.

yeah cool man i could use any of those, by blog i meant this page haha but i will happily send you my pua email so we can chat if i go on msn...

also can't believe my first post has now become a "popular post" (i assume i get bragging rights or something haha) anyway i was out at my local art supplies shop when this 8 came in through the door, she was definitely over 18 and was having some trouble picking some stuff out, i really know i should have done something but then i was hit by a wave of nerves (i know there is a shorter name for this but i cant remember) i had thought of an opener: wow crayons? you must really suck at art.
which would have been i blasted that inner feeling of what to say next away and stayed to Mystery's 3 second rule but when i opened my mouth...
nothing... my brain was going to my mouth WTF YOU FUCKING STUPID TALK GOD DAMN IT! but alas nothing instead went to the counter got my stuff and walked out hating myself the entire way home...
thinking about it now i should have just collected my thoughts for a bit and walked straight back over, do any of you guys have any tricks for getting rid of this?

p.s
on a lighter note had a small party thing on friday had mates round, you know the regular... later my mate called up his GF who was just coming back from a concert or some shit and was with a friend so they stopped by... because there were other people there with me along with being the host i felt no pressure and gave myself an accomplished intro along with an alpha male status to match, got some in some basic kino and a few negs and shabam! now she thinks im safe! (only spoke to her for about 2 minutes too lol)

p.p.s
Sorry about the long message, i will try to keep them short and sweet in future, anyway i think im about to have an emotional breakdown from the stress and lack of sleep from yesterday so im off to bed lol. night.

Long messages aren't a problem unless you hate reading from a computer screen like me! Don't beat yourself up about the art shop incident, move on. It took me a while before I could do cold approaches.

One example, saw a girl walking along and reading a book and asked how she did it without tripping up or getting flattened. We got into a brief conversation about books and authors. Didn't bother getting a number or anything as I've moving away soon so no point, just needed to prove to myself I could really and I'll be honest here:

Its really NOT scary, but takes de-sensitization. If its a problem then just ask for directions at first from an attractive girl, perhaps try and lead it into a conversation but even then just asking for directions should do it at first. If you want to chat on msn, just send a private message and I'll add you and chat, however I will admit like you I'm still learning, but I can give pep talks.

lol dude that would be great, have i sent you my msn yet? or do i still need to?

i think i basically found the problem its the fear of not knowing what to say, the fear that if i do open this i will run out of things to say and look like a complete dweeb i still dont have enough confidence in myself or enough knowledge of the game to just have a game plan... still at school will finish message later...

-continued from above-

this is my burden to you get me not enough mental shazam lol... also i flopped again at another opportunity for a 8 on the bus today i kept saying that i would do it on the next stop but never did untill she got off... i swear though i was actually going to do it when i had worked up enough courage but she got off... lol.. i really need to stop all this! any suggestions?