Thanks for the link waewae. Today I came across a girl (im not good at ranking, but i would give her a 7.5) in an art store and I used some of my "natural game" and number closed, I haven't contacted her yet but it seems to be solid.

So, I know you all say not to use canned stuff or negs but just for the sake of having it on the forum, if negs help at all from this point on and what are some examples of correct negs to use? And for breaking rapport how and when is the best time to do it?

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I LOVE breaking rapport, and do it with in the first five minutes if you can. There is a video about it on Sinn's seven part FREE video course on approaching. Just the other day I was talking to a girl and she was talking about school. She said she hated her Math class and math in general. I simply said "Oh My God! We would never get along!, I have a BS in Math". She instantly jumped in to qualifying to me about how we could get along because she likes many things- reading, dancing, music, etc.

I LOVE breaking rapport, and do it with in the first five minutes if you can. There is a video about it on Sinn's seven part FREE video course on approaching. Just the other day I was talking to a girl and she was talking about school. She said she hated her Math class and math in general. I simply said "Oh My God! We would never get along!, I have a BS in Math". She instantly jumped in to qualifying to me about how we could get along because she likes many things- reading, dancing, music, etc.

I LOVE breaking rapport, and do it with in the first five minutes if you can. There is a video about it on Sinn's seven part FREE video course on approaching. Just the other day I was talking to a girl and she was talking about school. She said she hated her Math class and math in general. I simply said "Oh My God! We would never get along!, I have a BS in Math". She instantly jumped in to qualifying to me about how we could get along because she likes many things- reading, dancing, music, etc.

Playful negs are important.

Neg her, then continue your story right away, don't let her react to your neg.

I disagree on "she wasn't an HB10"

I've met amazingly gorgeous girls who respond negatively to a neg, because, frankly, they think TOO highly of themselves, and if you're negging them you're an AUTOMATIC asshole therefore they distance themselves away/ neg back.

You might want to have a neg war with her (neg back and forth) and on the 3rd neg you give her you say "You know what? You're an asshole, I love you" and hug her.

Every IOI should be calibrated by an IOD and vice versa

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Hmm, first of all
"Playful negs" = Teasing. Teasing is a good thing, easy way to kino.
I disagree on what you say. HB10 HAVE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE, so have you ever had that feeling when YOUR ON FIRE. You did something great and felt like nothing can stop you. Then someone threw you a neg, for example "Your shoes look horrible".

Now, did you care a shit about that? No, because you rarely heard bullshit like that, it didnt lower your confidence. Now lets think about average confidence guys/girls. Someone says something like that, he/she STARTS ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT IT. "Do they really look so horrible, should I go chance them?!?"

But in the other hand, she may have had a bad day.

Without getting to far from the subject, The girl had her "cockblock" friend and a bitch shield which pretty much was just her personality because she would just talk shit about this one girl in the crowd. I tried to neg her after her friend said she was just being jealous by saying that the girl she was talking about was cute. This just moved her way more she just walked away to the other side of her friend.

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This also shows that you have strong self worth and that youre no push-over. good work

Another reason negs might not work - soooo many guys are using pretty much same negs that are all over internet by now. HB10s must know them all by heart now.
Many people might need to put thinking cap on and come up with negs of their own.

Well, stop seeing negs as lines and understand the concept... In the end you wont have to neg at all.

when you are doing negs think like you are an older brother teasing your little sister (even if you dont have one) dont think of what your saying -- but the voice tonality that comes under it.

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I do it because I feel like it, and I feel like it because I do it.

Thats it. Negs are like jokes, jokes about other persons NEED TO BE situational. If they are not, its like you are reading everything from a book.

I reserve negs for woman who are being bitch's, or that are doing something rude to put me down. It's more of a tool to be assertive and show that I have respec for myself that I have self-esteem, and that I wont tolorate her behaving badly towards me.

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Yes, but you do have to realize, like you said, they might of had a bad day, or they CAN BE SELF-CONSCIOUS even if they're an HB10.

I know PLENTY of shy, quiet, low self-esteem HB10s.

You're generalizing.

I mean, PUA is about generalizing, but I'm just saying, not every girl is the same, if you're smart enough, you can calibrate what to say based on their facial expressions/ way of being.

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This is very bad.

Don't respond to a girl's shit - this show's you're a negative person and that you're of lower value.

I don't believe in shit tests.

Girls shit tests assholes, losers, and AFCs, if you played your cards right, and the girl says she can't make it Saturday because she's going to cheerleading practice, find a solution to that, don't neg her and be an asshole back, your frames don't resonate that way.

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