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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:13 pm 
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i was wondering if you could quickly outline the main tecniques for attraction building and comfort building..?

which should you build first, and how should you do it? im getting quite confused with what to do in the small amount of time after opening and mayb a DVH story to keep the pick up moving before HB loses interets and fades away...?

an explanation of this would be great as no one has answered this yet and its really bugging me as everytime i open a set with a HB i dont know what to do next, how to build attraction etc and have her actually wanting to stay...

if you could possibly take the time to answer this for me i would be extremely greatfull...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:00 am 
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first tip is STOP worrying about what stage you are in and enjoy the moment

second tip STOP worrying about what to say next


to build attraction and make her want to say just be fun and goofy,
flirt with her

to build comfort drop the entertainer act and loose the "pickup persona" just be 100% you and it will all work out


basic outline be fun and entertaining> no when to quit being the entertainer> be prepared to be open

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 Post subject: Comfort vs Attraction
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:47 am 
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Hey Pascal,

It's quite simple.

Comfort and Attraction ride hand in hand when working on one, you are working on the other.

Now,
If you open with your set correctly and everything is running smoothly it's all about reading your target. I feel a point in all seduction books that is never explored in depth in improvisation. What seperates you from other males in the knowledge you've learnt through all PUA forums and books. But the situations in which all the information is used are incredibly different.

If your posture, voice and action all show confidence the comfort and attraction will begin to grow on there own. Attraction in my opinion in more important though. Whenever sarging I build more on attraction then comfort. But! My appearance, voice and my genuine personal is built around attraction. I am fairly good looking a pride myself on smelling great. With all these together, attraction compliaments my personality traits or what I'm comfortable with. Where my close friend Cai is feminine and had built his game around comfort. He laughs, giggles and throws everything out in the open and it works for him due to his personality.

Because I don't know you or your personality, you have to be the judge of this one.
Try different techniques and sets etc.

Other advice,
It's very easy to transer over from comfort to attraction. By afew simply statements

Example 1:

PUA: "I like your hat"
HB: "Thank you" *laugh*
PUA: "I like your dress"
HB: "Thank you" *laugh*
PUA: "Come to think of it, I like everything"
HB: *laughs*
PUA: "So how was your day you shinning example of genetic perfection" *smile*



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:15 am 
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i think one of the main pronlems is the constant focus on which stage is which... mainly i get confused straight after an opener and where to go from there...? im quite an easy to talk to person so the comfort should be no trouble...but what aspects of the attraction building should i focus on (using what tecniques, patterns etc ???)

i think once i have this order worked out (open, dhv, attract, comfort,close) and the basic methods that could be used in each stage (negs,kino,patterns etc) then everything wont seem so confusing and i can work with this and my own game at the same time...

an anwer that addresses all of this would be AMAZING.. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:03 am 
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Macbeth,

Yes it may be dependent on personality and in CERTAIN cases it may work for your friend Cai, however as a rule of thumb i would strongly advise against comfort building before attraction.

Comfort building is her getting to know you as a person and vice versa....with all due respect, why on earth would she bother finding out more about you UNLESS you have hit that hook point by creating attraction in the first place. Give her a reason to invest in you.

All the AFC's that approach women in clubs with their famous 4 questions...'whats your name,can I buy you a drink,what do you do and where are you from'...this is all comfort building without sparking attraction first...and look how far they get.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:12 am 
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i think once i have this order worked out (open, dhv, attract, comfort,close)
You just said it...

You know how to open right? (this could be anything, really)

You know how to dhv right? (tell a story or 2 with DHV spikes, a joke or 2, but the thing that i mainly focus on is TEASING. This is what really sparks it in my experience as its flirting on steroids but giving her mixed signals at the same time)...also push/pull....push with disqualifiers like...'kissing you would be like kissing my sister'..and then pull by throwing in subtle compliments. You'll eventually have her head spinning which is exactly where you want her. Use sexual innuendo's where ever you can. Play games with her and just be playful. Chicks LOVE playing little bar games...they are like little kids...in most of my cases they the ones that end up suggesting that we play for something (a drink of what ever)

You know how to build comfort...be yourself. (now ask all the AFC questions...but make it interesting and emotional)

You know how to close. (dont forget kino escalation during attraction and comfort phase which will make the close absolutely seamless. if you have escalated correctly a girl will literally be begging you to be kissed by the way she is touching you back, gazing at you etc. once you learn to recognize this youre golden every time)

You have enough knowledge to make it happen. Go for it.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:32 pm 
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cheers this is exactly what i was looking for :)

the two things out of that which im not 100% confident with are the methods for building attraction-would all the push pull/neg compliment combo's do this???

or would DHV help build attraction? this is my other confusion as im not sure how to intergrate "spikes?" into a story as i dont really know what kinda stuff they should be or their purpose???

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