now iv watched american puas, iv noticed a few things.

american game is very showy, very hollywood, very look at me.

in england i dont agree with it.

when i started i went out dressed showy, with a crew of lads who would wear light up belts, flary shirt, u know the look, like they had been drawn straight out of the game.
yet that didnt get them results. after them i went out in shirts, ties and waistcoats. it got attention but i looked like a cock. now i go out dress in tee shirts, jeans and converse, nothing drastic i know. thats because iv learn that in england its not about the rock star, more the gentleman... its about the aura... like when i started i would use techniques, now i used manners. i belive that in england to get the girl its more attractive to be charming, use yr eyes to speak the words that introduce u.

in a club i will use my eyes to get there attention, and i wont go in with a line that will get them thinking, i will simply say 'hello', i will straight away us 'kino', i will put my hand on her waist while talking to her, use eye contact but not stare, i will pick something around us to talk about, i will get her to watch a person/ couple and make her laugh at the difference between us and them. then i will make a comment about the people dancing and make gesture. once iv dance with her i will make a gesture to the bar, it is there that i will get her. i dont go there to buy her a drink, no, thats where i will get to know her. never forget that, attaction and building attraction are 2 different things, to build true attraction u need to talk to her about her, then u can know whether she is a girl that need to be demonstrated higher value to, or if she is down to earth she will not need it.

in England we are promiscuous, so use that, when u are together at the bar, put yr arm round her and tell her that u are going to take her home, that she will end up in yr bed, and that u wont give up till u get her company with u. this sounds drastic, but it works, u can tell whether a girl is there cause she is interested in u or just yr wallet for the night. dont forget that to do this u need to have a cheekiness about u. and use yr eyes, wink at her, stare her down. its a battle between confidence. make sure u win.

this is the way i work, and i work with my own crew, none are puas they are naturals, iv seen friends just pull beautiful girls and the first line is 'yr going to end up in my bed, and u wont regret it' and u will get a cheeky remark but thats where it starts.
this friend isnt rich, he isnt well built, hes just well groomed and hellish cheeky. and he knows wot he wants. we have been working in england at this for 2 years, and it wasnt until i was working with him and the lads that i started getting my true results.

dont be scared of being truly blunt, because touch wood iv never been slapped. yeah true if been chased out of clubs by angry bfs, this last weekend actually, but that was my fault for kissing his gfs neck and biting her ear in front of him after telling him i was gay. but he should have realized she wants loyal ahaha

Seems to me that its more important that what ever "system" you use is congruent with your personality. I'm willing to bet that a flamboyant american using mystery method in london would be very successful as would a cultured brit using a very low key natural game in new york.

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I agree with sapphire, Being an American it's kind of our culture to be a bit cocky. Now if a Brit PUA came here and had even some game, he wouldn't have much problem picking up at all because 1, American girls love accents, and 2, they're not used to British charm.

I suspect British girls would love the cocky American guys, because it's natural to us, and they aren't immersed in our culture everyday, so it's also somewhat of a rarity to them.

That's not to say that either one can't be successful at home, it's just be natural in the way you dress and act, but still retain the core information to pick up anywhere and you can do great.

So while you say none of us are PUA's in England we are natural, often the cocky Americans think the same thing because that's whats natural to our culture. Point is being natural wherever you are from will work anywhere because being your best self works 95% of the time.

yar american game is more showy, brit game is more banter based. Both have advantages and disadvantages long story short they all work, try out things if a certain technique doesn't work drop it.

Also I don't think any nation has more promiscuous women, I have seen overt sexuality in both countries and in both styles of game. The only thing relating to women I have heard is from a friend who said american women are less uptight.

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ive found the same readin the game i found that you have to pick bits of mysterys method and david deanglio to be successful in the UK it also depends what area of the uk u are from aswell...

Here is the difference. In America, there are allot of jobs that require tips in order to be at all profitable. This trains the individual to be nice as pie to the customer and as showy as possible in order to obtain the largest tip. After the process has gone on for a few generations, The American population get used to this level of showmanship.

In a club in England, If we try to be to showy, it comes of Cockish because we appear false, and try hard. Because showman ship isn't as integrated into are culture as it is in America. Conversely. In America, because there is already a default level of showmanship at work for a good percentage of individuals, they need to turn it up in order to stand out. Enter The mystery style of peacocking.

So to get the best out of English Game. We should be focusing on being talkative, whitey, and well dressed. Slim fitting clothes that don't have "i'm the daddy" or "to the pub" on them.


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IMHO The biggest single thing you can do to increase your success as a PUA is go to a foreign country. Doesn't matter which one that much. All you have to is not look like shit and approach. This hits some kind of "adding diversity to the gene pool" switch which chicks dig. Plus a traveller is automatically imbued with DHV by virtue of actually travelling. I've heard cold approaches produce a 1 in 20 hit rate, it is more like 1 in 5 abroad.

This is pretty basic psychology/genetics. I'm guessing it isn't discussed more in the community because you can't sell a seminar on the basis of "buy a plane ticket".