As no one aswered my other topic, I thought I'd start a new one.


I went out with this girl, all went well, had dinner, we connected a lot, she then canceled a movie with her ex-boyfriend and went back to my place with me instead and we watched a film. I did some kino escalation during the film and it worked. K-closed her when the film was over. We made out for like 3 hours. And she was talking about the possibility of starting a relationship with me, how she was so happy that she'd found me, how we were so alike, etc.

Got some LMR when her bra was off already, because she said she was affraid that I wouldn't give a shit about her the day after if f***ed her that night. I thought about doing Style's tactic of stop giving her attention, but figured I wasn't gonna act like an ass to this girl... Yeah, I know, she was there for the taking and I couldn't deliver the final stroke... very AFC moment of me but I just thought I'd just f*ck her some other day (plus my parents were sleeping upstairs and I didn't want them to wake up with the screaming)

She's a foreigner, she lost her job recently, and she says she's leaving the country next month. This girl is obviously GF material but I doubt I can get her in BF zone and get her to stick around in so little time. She sounded like she liked me that much, but obviously after a few hours of first having seen someone, that's not gonna happen.

So now some more shit at her work popped up, she left that "moment" mindset thing she had with me, and she's acting quite colder, like she's now affraid of what she said and felt on Saturday. We had arranged a meet up at her place, but she didn't mention it and I didn't want to invite myself either, so just messaged her I couldn't make it to stay in the upper hand instead of looking like an ass. She answered back saying no problem.

She was telling me her story and how everyone has treated her really badly throughout her life and how she was sick of it, tried to treat her nice a bit, and she seemed to enjoy it. But I think I may have treated her too nice and scared her off.


So I'm kind of in a difficult situation at the moment again, as I have little time to spend with her, so I can't play push-pull properly. She doesn't want me to treat her badly, and said she almost didn't answer my first message because I was bullyish to her. But I know I can't go on being too nice or that will be too AFC on my part and she will just lose interest.


So I'm taking suggestions on what to do, we haven't really been chatting this week, I'm thinking maybe call her on Thursday and ask for a meetup Friday night. I know that if I can get her somewhere private I'll end up F-closing her. But how can I suggest her place without forcing me into her and making her feel unconfortable.


(She's smoking hot btw, to the point she was telling me how guys don't really approach her. And I was thinking, she's one of those girls who are so hot that they intimidate men. Men don't even feel good enough to try their luck with her, but she's weirdly a very insecure and shy girl)

Hey man,

Yo that was a lot to read but I do have a better understanding. Listen I understand you wanting to fuck her but don't make her your girlfriend. I have found a girl with low self esteem will usually fuck up a good thing IE a good relationship so just focus on having sex with her. If you can meet up with her than that's great and you'll have it in the bag.

Hey man,


Me again also if your having trouble on the date make sure you take her to multiple places in the venue. Which means more that one place for the date, I would try 3 to 4 places that way every new place is another date and she can be more comfortable with you.
Let me know how it turns out peace!

I know I won't have problems getting her laid if I do meet her again, it's just the part of asking her for a date that's bugging me right now.

How should I ask?

I mean she's not talking to me at the moment, in fact she talked to me much more when we'd just met online, which is kinda stupid since our date really went really GREAT, I could tell she loved every minute of it and she spoke of private things all night.

So I'm 90% sure she's scared of what she might have said concerning a relationship, and how far and quickly things escalated in the first date now that she's out of that attraction zone.


I think I'm gonna call her tomorrow and ask her if she wants to see me this weekend. If she says no I'll try to ask why, since she said she wanted to see me as soon as possible when she left me. Should I ask her directly if she's scared? Should I say we can just hang out, we don't need to do anything?

the thing here is she absolutely knows that she sees me again she's getting f*cked and you know how girls tend to resist this, especially when it's their first time with someone new.

Is there like a game plan for situations like this?

Thanks so much for the help!

Hey man,
Well let me say this I know when Im tryin to meet a girl you have to make sure that she feels comfortable and not pressured to meet. Make is seem like you are already going somewhere and let her know she can tag along. Do not ask just say you should you come along. So keep this is mind when you trying to meet up with her.

PS. To not come across needy or she will become less atracted to you and question your value.