In fact, they aren't gamers at all. They are my friends and they actually consider themselves pretty successful gamers and so it was that I was taken under their wings and brought up in their style of "game" which was as simple as this: get buzzed, go to club, wander the dance floor grinding up on anything available till one bites, then work it from there. To them, it's a numbers game plane and simple.

Both my teachers had gotten plenty of play this way, but one was consistently pulling sub-6's and the other was pulling some quality HB's (he's pretty good looking) but with no real consistency. And so I began going out and pulling women of variable HB levels, getting numbers with 80% flake rates, with no consistency to number or K-closes.

Then came one random night as I walked home with a sub-6 as she rubbed my cock through my pants in the middle of the street ready for an f-close. We got to my apartment and, I'm being completely honest, as soon as I pulled her jeans off I got a knock on my door. My "teacher" had come with this girls friends, who gave me a load of shit for "taking advantage of her drunk friend, bla bla bla." And they left (shows you how much thought my teacher puts into this, by the way).

I realized only moments later that it was a blessing and that I had been misguided. Here was my teacher, my mentor, and he is basically someone that would fuck anything that moves. I HAD BECOME JUST LIKE HIM! It only makes sense that if I follow his advice I will end up in his same position.

I don't want to rely on luck to get me HB's anymore. I want to say "Luck? I don't need luck" and say it with conviction. I have a recovering AFC friend and we are both starting out this journey together. Expect contributions from me in the future, as when I get serious about something, I really get serious.

PS- I'm a 27 yo medical student from Sacramento, just read MM and watched some Youtube stuff and am compiling some of my favorite openers/routines/etc to keep in my mental pocket. Wish me luck!

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"The four most overrated things in life are champagne, lobster, anal sex, and picnics."
-Christopher Hitchens

Wow, for a minute there i thought i was reading my old life. I had my epiphany the day after i had sex with a girl that two friend's of mine had already been with. Imagine knowing that not only your friends had been there, but this is the circle your falling into. I had to get out, just like you.

I got put onto this forum, and from there lernt about and read the game, an learned many other tips and routines, that have helped me to getting... well, the numbers (without getting graphic) of some very beautiful woman. And i know you will too.

So on behalf of the community. Welcome, and best of luck! (Need it or not)