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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:22 pm 
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Hello everyone.

Let me keep this short. Like most of you I was intoduced to The Game through Neil Strauss and like most of you I have become preoccupied by it. After a year I am almost exactly where I was when I finished the book so I've decided that enough is enough and to go out and learn properly i.e aprroaches, approaches, approaches.

I'm starting soon and to prove to myself that I'm serious I've written this entry in word. So if you're reading this then I've already started.

I hope to update this journal frequently so good luck to me and to all those other guys who are about to undertake a snakes 'n' ladders style adventure.

PS Tonight I won't use any techniquews or routines but I will record the amount of approaches, length of time and record notes afterwards to give an indication of my progression.

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Hey guys,
Well I got my first night out of the way last night and my results were 7 approaches in 2 1/2 hours and they broke down like this

1st 2 older woman and 1 HB8. 4 mins
2nd 2 HB7, 5 mins
3rd 8 set. 2 guys 6 girls. Approached the guys first and tried to bring the girls more into it. 5 mins
4th 1 girl. HB5 Completely blown out of it. Bit suprrised and annoyed by it.
5th 1 girl HB6. 10 mins
6th 1 girl HB6 6 mins. Couldn't hear her at all
7th 1 girl HB7 15 mins.

I also approached other groups but I'm not going to bother with them.

Looking over last night its obvious I need to go further than just the simple introductions so I'm going to work on that tonight. As I mentioned before, I'm going to go without openers and other pick up stuff for a while. The reason for this is that I want to become a natural and if I start using canned material then I'm just going to rely on it too much.

Right guys wish me luck tonight
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:37 pm 
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Hello everyone.

Let me keep this short. Like most of you I was intoduced to The Game through Neil Strauss and like most of you I have become preoccupied by it. After a year I am almost exactly where I was when I finished the book so I've decided that enough is enough and to go out and learn properly i.e aprroaches, approaches, approaches.

I'm starting soon and to prove to myself that I'm serious I've written this entry in word. So if you're reading this then I've already started.

I hope to update this journal frequently so good luck to me and to all those other guys who are about to undertake a snakes 'n' ladders style adventure.

PS Tonight I won't use any techniquews or routines but I will record the amount of approaches, length of time and record notes afterwards to give an indication of my progression.

Regards
Thatthat




Hey guys,
Well I got my first night out of the way last night and my results were 7 approaches in 2 1/2 hours and they broke down like this

1st 2 older woman and 1 HB8. 4 mins
2nd 2 HB7, 5 mins
3rd 8 set. 2 guys 6 girls. Approached the guys first and tried to bring the girls more into it. 5 mins
4th 1 girl. HB5 Completely blown out of it. Bit suprrised and annoyed by it.
5th 1 girl HB6. 10 mins
6th 1 girl HB6 6 mins. Couldn't hear her at all
7th 1 girl HB7 15 mins.

I also approached other groups but I'm not going to bother with them.

Looking over last night its obvious I need to go further than just the simple introductions so I'm going to work on that tonight. As I mentioned before, I'm going to go without openers and other pick up stuff for a while. The reason for this is that I want to become a natural and if I start using canned material then I'm just going to rely on it too much.

Right guys wish me luck tonight
Thatthat

Nice idea! This is how to break down the game really well-very analytical!

I used to do something like this simliar, I use to record my interactions on my phone as I have a voice recorder-then the next day I would listen to what I said and there reaction, only problem is when the night gets later and later I become completely incomprehensive due to being too intoxicated and sound like a mongoloid.
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6th 1 girl HB6 6 mins. Couldn't hear her at all
I nearly fell of my chair at work in laughter! You telling me you waited a whole 6 mins when you could not hear her, I bet she thought you were the best male listener in the world!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:04 pm 
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Hey guys
Like before, I'll keep this brief. I went out trainging twice last week and then went out socially the following two. Here's the write up of the the training days and I've noticed a change when I see my own friends so I'll briefly discuss that to.

1st night

1st 2HB7. The girls had hardly any English so I tried to hang on in there but the conversation was dead after 30 seconds. 3 mins
2nd 1HB6. Was doing okay and got some good repore going however I was standing in where people were constantly brushing past me in a packed bar so it could have been better. 12 mins
3rd 2 set, 1 HB5 Just general chit chat. 5 mins

I left after this as I was just not feeling up to it. Although as soon as I arrived home I felt shit so I decided to get back on the horser and go out the next evening in the same locations and try and do better.

2nd night

1st 4 set. HB7+8. Just used these to warm myself up a bit. 2/3 mins.
2nd HB7 + 5. This was the first group that I would say I properly gamed. I started talking to the hotter one and we were getting on great, then I brought in her less attractive friend to the conversation. I was doing well for the first 10 mins but then the 5 was getting way more into to me than the 7. I was putting more attention on the 7 so maybe thats why. Next time I'm going to either give them equal attention or give the less pretty girl more attention. 16 mins
3rd HB6 Stopped her in the street as I was passing but soon fizzeled out. 2 mins
4th 3 set HB6s. I tried an indirect approach earlier on but didn't get any where. Then I got talking to this guy and instant winged him by just making a passing comment on the three set. He said something back and I suggested we should approach them. He was unsure so I just told him to follow me and off I went. This is where it started going badly. The girl I stated talking with wasn't interested and we just ended up having this super dry, forced conversation which as all you guys know is just akward central. Exactly what you don't want went you are out training. 15 mins

Following two evenings
I went out socially with my friends and had a great time on both evenings. Felt very comfortable through out the evenings and conversation was a lot easier and fun. I'm attributing this to sarging without canned material as its making me think on my toes more often which is exactly what I wanted.


I'll be going out again this evening and so I'll hopefully have a more interesting story of my development. I'll also shorten the summaries of the shorter approaches and lengthen the longer ones

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That that

PS I wanted to comment on xyx message. When I start drinking I can barely stop so when I'm out training I'm only on Coke for the evening.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:30 pm 
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Hey guys
I'm heading out in 10 minutes so I wanted to just write up my field report from 2 nights ago. I didn't go out as long as I had originally intended but I enjoyed myself which was even better.

1st 2set HB7 Fun chitchat with boxer and his gf. 5min
2nd 2 set HB9+8. They were doing a weird dance and I just went up and asked where they were from. We got talking and one of the girls seemed pretty interested. 15 mins
3rd 2set older HB6. I was just passing and they stopped me. They were drunk and I could probably have moved in on the girl which I should have for training purposes but I wasn't that into her. 5 min
4th HB9 2set HB10 Absolutely gorgeous Brazilian girl but her English wasn't great. 4min
5th 3set HB6+6+7 The 7 was talking so I got talking to one of the 6's. My opener offended her but I was able to recover. I did okay but when the 7 was finished, they were leaving. 7min

Once again I din't go out for too long but I really enjoyed my approaches and sure wouldn't it be great if they were all like that. One change I did make was that I wore nicer clothes than normal and I got a better initial response. Saw some girls giving me the old wandering eye.

Tonight I'm going to stay out and do approaches until the city closes. I'm going to try and focus on opening up my body language a bit and not try and cross my arms as much which I've noticed I do when I talk to people.

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reading ya post makes me want to sarge more but i still deal with AA so i never open a 2 set just ones did you ever have AA?

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Heya guys,
Here's my report for tonight and what my review of the evening.

1st HB 3+3 Warm up 3min (On a related note; is it possible to have a HB3 or lower. Really I've been just rating women and putting HB before their number.)
2nd HB 6 I was getting major IOI's. I was making her laugh, she kept fixing her hair and practicaly groping me. I asked her if she wanted to kiss me but she said she had a boyfriend. I think my mistake was not isolating her from her friend and reciprocating her IOI's- basically I leapt the gun. 25Mins
3rd 4set HB8+7+6+4 4mins This was very short but these 4 girls had exactly the level of game I'm aiming for. They cat called me as I was passing by, of course I went up to these 4 girls who I'd guess were lower to middle class. They then proceeded to absolutely and without question make me into chump change. They were doing so many things at once that only when I excused myself did I realise what a fun, weird and being made into their bitch time I had. It all really just seemed to happen at once. 4 alpha females.
4th 4 set 3HB6 + HB5 German girls. 35Mins Spoke to them in a bit of German and they were pretty impressed. I was only passing by but when I headed away the 5 caught up with me. We talked and I walked her to her bus. She missed it then intentionally. It was pretty obvious I was in so we went to get a quick drink and I number closed afterwards. She wanted a kiss but I just used Styles kiss-on-the-cheek thing which works brilliantly no matter what period of the game.

Right guys so that was this evening and I was out for nearly 2 hours. What were my impressions and sticking points? Firstly I was getting rally bad approach anxiety which is unusual for me and it really took me a while to get over it. I find the best way is to just move in on your target and comment on something happening around you and then head into your opener. It just feels a lot more natural.

Next thing; when I go out into the field, I don't spend a lot of time in it. If I'm going to do this then I should do it properly. I seem to be quiting half way through the evening so in future I just have to remind myself of why I'm doing this and the improvements it's making in my life.

Well guys I'm making progress and it can be hard work sometimes but hey its great fun and it's definitelt improving my social skills. I'll end this by repling to Mr.nonchalance's question. Do I get approach anxiety? Well yes and no. You see I'm lucky in a way because I used to have a job doing promotions and surveys where I would have to go up and talk to strangers because if I didn't I wouldn't get paid. The feeling I used to get was very similar to approach anxiety except not as bad becasuse I was armed with an opener, mid game and finisher. At the moment I'm starting from scratch again and having to come up with all this stuff off the top of my head so I do get anxious when I make an approach but I can recognise it and get past it.My advise would be to get off this forum, go into a bar that no one knows you and just do it. Yes you'll fail the first few times, hell I'm failing everytime I go up but if you'll notice in my posts I am getting slightly better each time and so will you. As for who I'm having trouble approaching... definitely the 8,9 and 10s but I'll get there... eventually.


Right guys thats all for now. I'll put in a brief report in what I'll be doing for tomorrow night in a few hours. I have to sleep. Night

That that


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Hey,
A quick report on a very quiet Tuesday night

1st HB7 5 mins Warm up
2nd HB6+6 25mins After the intro I just turned around and these two girls were just there so I went straight into it. I've noticed myself falling into patterns. The main one is making an observation on what's happening around me or what my target group is wearing / doing and I'll just change it into an opener. We were talking for ages and getting on great. In fact even when I was failing at something it seemed to come off great eg. I saw a magic trick earlier that day
(xxx)
and I tried it and completely fucked it up but I laughed it off like it was really funny and I meant to do exactly that. After 20 mins I knew I should be moving on to my next target so I number closed easy peasy. I'll text her tomorrow.
3rd 4set HB7+7 20mins So I arrive ino a bar that is almost a morgue apart from a 4 set and and there's a guitarist playing only English 70's music (Pink Floyd, the Who, Beatles etc). I walk up behind them but not close enough to be part of the group and as soon as the song ends, I slip into the group seamlessly and now I'm leading the group. One guy and one girl were together so I focused my attention on the others. I got the guy on my side and got him to be mean to the girl with me me. The girl became mega flirty with both of us. I just let it at that. Next time I'll try and isolate. I feel like that isolating well will help me a lot.
4th Was walking back and I thinking 'Just one more set' and so I just got talking to these girls in the street. 20 mins


At the moment my general convo is getting better so in future I'm going to try and create attraction more. Also I should mention that I got the e-book How to Talk to Anyone - 92 Little Tricks for Big Success in Relationships off rapidshare. Before I went out last night I just picked 2 points at random and incorparate that evening. Try it for yourself, it helped. (yyy)


Later

PS I'm too new to post links but if you want to look for them then;
xxx = youtube search magic+coin+disapear 2nd video
yyy = google search How to Talk to Anyone: 92 Little Tricks for Big Success in Relationships 1st link


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Hello everyone,
This isn't a FR, it's a goodbye. I've realised that for everything I've gained, I have lost in equal measure. I go out and feel no excitment as my dominance becomes more pronounced and my ability to sympathise and feel diminishes. So I rewelcome my angry frustrated chump because it's who I am. I'm a nice guy and do okay with women. I'm happy with this so I can now leave.
As this is my last post I just want to say that; the piano will tell your story, Bob Dylan's story's are better than yours or mine, you and me will try and work hard and to those few who work hardest, then it will repay itself.

To the beginners, to the masters and to all the guys in the middle, good luck in finding what you need.

Thatthat (RM)


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