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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:49 am 
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Mate, she's definetly playing u, the oldest game in the book, the waiting game, showing u that u interest her, but u're disposable...like a puppy :).
Got this last friday, gamed excelent, kc, made her want me madly...i use alot of NLP,kino, to get her horny, she was all over me.
And a day after, total change of atittude, big time mate, and now we are playing the waiting game.I dont know if anything good can come out of it,but will see.
Play it cool, u're in the game mate, and u have quite a player on u're hand, win this and ur confidence will sky-rocket,
Best of luck, keep us in touch ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:52 pm 
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update:


seriously if she IS gaming me, she is the best natural PUA i've ever seen, check this out and LEARN FROM HER! :



She had said she lost her job a week ago. She worked in a company that went bankrupt. I checked the news and it checks out. She's a foreigner living in this country btw.

I didn't talk to her again till this evening, when I said hi in the MSN. After a bit of chat, she told me how she was sad I didn't answer her back yesterday, but how she understood that I didn't have to because I don't know her that well.

She then tells me how she was feeling so bad with everything, how she's losing all of her friends who are mainly foreigners that are all going back to their countries, and that she took a whole bunch of sleeping pills last night and hoped she'd never wake up. But she did. And how she was trying to hang on to life SPAM but it wasn't easy.

I dropped my game at this moment, because come on, you're not expecting me to act like a bastard to someone who says she tried to kill herself, and asked her if she wanted me to meet her right at that moment.

She hesitated but said she didn't want me to see her that low, like she was affraid of what I might think seeing her in that state, so she asked me if we could meet this weekend if she managed to pick herself up. I said OK and now we're meeting this weekend. I told her I'm going to a party on Saturday with friends, asked her if she wanted to join, she didn't answer but I don't think she's up for it, and it's understandable if she's telling the truth.

when she left she was like: "It's very sweet of you to care but you don't know me and I'm nothing to you" and left. Like she was expecting me to text her back saying she is someone to me.


So I think this has to be like a first. I'm really puzzled about the way I should act when I meet her. I mean I really like the girl, she's very interesting, and a solid 9 physically, but I don't think I should risk gaming her, because her self esteem is terrible at the moment and she thinks the world is going to end, and if she ends up killing herself I wouldn't be happy to live with that guilt.






So I'm open to honest thoughtful suggestions here


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:19 am 
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dude you better walk the plank on that drama ship.


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Mate, been there done that, got burned :))...and not once.
No matter how macho we want to seem as men, we do have soft spots, like seeing a girl down, or emphaty, and mercy for those that have a shity life, or are down.
Women,know this!!!, they feel that we have a strong maternal side, and that this is a crack in our shell, that this is the way to play us.Usualy they will try to lie about heir problems, and conect to our protective side of our personality.
A woman's game is usualy in this pattern, describe that, their situation is bad, that they are down, or have depresions, it's a real drama, and if they are smart enough. they have that theatrical way of saying it...and most of us actualy fall for it.
Why do u think that one of the rules of a PUA, is never go for a girl that has more problems then u...because, we can't actualy tell where the line between fact, and lie is, in this matter...it's not because we are bad peopple, is because when women touch that mooshy side of us, we crumble, and at that point we are no longer men, but kids...and therefor we are gamed.
I sugest that u listen carefully, that u use intuition, and instinc on this one, not words, not logic,but pure blunt instinct and intuition...and if those things say that she realy is in pain, and trouble, and if u realy want to help her overcome the problems, u should, because it is only human,but be warned, it might just be a game, because women do actualy have sneakiness and manipulation in their blod, expecialy smart one's.
My advice, be carefull, cause if u are wrong u will crack ur shell, and she will eat u up, and spit u over.
Keep it real mate.
Best of luck


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Gevaudun is right. I've been there as well. This girl told me how she was cutting herself and wanted it all to end. I let my shield down and helped her through it. She went back to her ex after everything.
Honestly I don't think you should game her. My advice is to find someone else...you're a pua you can get other girls. If you want you can help her through her problems. It's only natural to want to help her so go ahead and do it but don't expect to end up with her. If you do then great but morally you shouldn't game a girl who might be on the brink of suicide but that's my opinion. There have been relationships that have started and lasted because of friends who help each other through tough parts of their lives.
She may be playing you but the question you've gotta ask yourself is which is worse...the guilt of her killing herself and you not acting or you going for it and she playing you.

Good luck man...this is a tough decision.

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so I did went out with her, all went well, had dinner, she then canceled a movie with her ex-boyfriend and went back to my place with me instead and we watched a film. I did some kino escalation during the film and it worked. K-closed her when the film was over. We made out for like 3 hours.

Got some LMR when her bra was off already, because she said she was affraid that I wouldn't give a shit about her the day after if f***ed her that night. I thought about doing Style's tactic of stop giving her attention, but figured I wasn't gonna act like an ass to this girl... Yeah, I know, she was there for the taking and I couldn't deliver the final stroke... very AFC moment of me but I just thought I'd just f*ck her some other day (plus my parents were sleeping upstairs and I didn't want them to wake up with the screaming)

So everything she said she was going through was true, and she says she's leaving the country next month. This girl is obviously GF material but I doubt I can get her in BF zone and get her to stick around in so little time. She sounded like she liked me that much, but obviously after a few hours of first having seen someone, that's not gonna happen.

So now some more shit at her work popped up, she left that "moment" mindset thing she had with me, and she's acting quite colder. We had arranged a meet up at her place tomorrow night, but she didn't mention it today and I didn't want to invite myself either.

She was telling me her story and how everyone has treated her really badly throughout her life and how she was sick of it, tried to treat her nice a bit, and she seemed to enjoy it.


So I'm kind of in a difficult situation at the moment again, as I have little time to spend with her, so I can't play push-pull properly. She doesn't want me to treat her badly, and said she almost didn't answer my first message because I was bullyish to her. But I know I can't go on being too nice or that will be too AFC on my part and she will just lose interest.


So I'm taking suggestions again, especially considering that date thing at her place that was supposed to be tomorrow.


(She's smoking hot btw, to the point she was telling me how guys don't really approach her. And I was thinking, she's one of those girls who are so hot that they intimidate men. Men don't even feel good enough to try their luck with her)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:49 pm 
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This is such a soap opera dude. I want to tell you to forget her. It might be tough because she's a 9 and gf material but there are 10s out there who're waiting for you. Trying to get her to be your gf doesn't make much sense to me...I mean if she's going away it's going to be long distance and you're just going to be one more problem for her. Still it's your decision...I'd say you don't need to be mean to her to be cocky funny. If you say it in a cute way she shouldn't take it that way.
About your AFC moment...it was AFC...I think mystery said that LMR is because a woman doesn't want to feel like a slut for the very reason this girl said. What you gotta do is show her you care for her by not actually saying it. Mystery used the example of his gf went to the bathroom and she was there for about 5mins so he called out asking where she was to show that he's thinking of her. Feed her all of that. Mystery has some other lines too. Keep feeding her that stuff...it's great for getting to gf level too.
I'm guessing it's too late for the meet up the next day...what you could've done is the call to say you're going to be late thing or that you might not be able to make it. You keep your status as a busy guy but you also show consideration because you're calling to tell her rather than just standing her up.
Hope things worked out.

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