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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:18 am 
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Hey there Adam! How ya doin brutha! Well, here's my issue:

So I get this girl who I initially approached maybe an hour after I re approach her on the dance floor with her friend( who was interested in my best friend, which worked out for me) and we get very sexual on the dancefloor. It would actually be worth mentioning that even before this encounter on the dancfloor, she approached me while some guys tried to dance with her, then left while saying "we'll be back". Didn't buy it. So when I saw them on the dancefloor again and re-engaged them, my best friend occupied her friend, and I got my target. Like I said, we dance very sexual, she let's my explore her body without resistance, I kiss her neck, turn her around and look at her as if i want to kiss her, but doesn't let me and looks up, so I go back to her neck again. She turns around and has her back to me still dancing as sexy as can be, then i do more exploring and kiss and bite her neck. I yet again, turn her around, look at her, go for the lips, lets me kiss, but looks up again and once again I go to the neck. This goes on for at least 15 minutes and then her and her friend say, "were gonna go upstairs, we'll be back!"

My question is: How do I get her to make out with me without resistance, and what's the proper way with handling the " we'll be back" B.S?

Thanks for everything Adam!

Victor (LA bootcamp)

Victor!

Mate, sooo good to hear from you! OK, if a girl is letting you get very sexual but won't kiss then skip the kissing stage and go further. Don't think of sexual escalation as a 1-2-3 process that needs to go in order. It's ok to skip something and maybe go 1-3-4 and then go back to 2. If you and the girl are all over each other and your hands are down her pants she will kiss you, trust me.

The “we'll be back” one is iffy. Good that you saw them and reengaged them. The best thing to do is to talk to other girls and build up your social proof while they disappear. They will then see you later in the evening, hopefully with a bunch of females, and then reopening will go a million times easier. You will often find that they will open you and fall into your social proof trap.

Sounds like things are really progressing with you. Have fun mate !

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:19 am 
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Wow! man I gotta say your a true fucking legend and I really dig everything you have done for the community, so that's why I now seek your advice.

As of right now I'am in los angeles, paying my way through college, I live in a very tiny room in a backhouse shared by 3 other people, and I have an average entry-level job that supports me and leaves very little left at the end of the month.

So I was wondering if there is a way to build a female social circle, without inviting them to my place and also without having to cost me too much?

Also I was wondering if you have any specific techniques or guidelines that can be used with or without entourage game to game a super rediculously retarded hot girl that is a true HB 11 (think as if the girl is megan fox, with all the perks,confidence, and people trying to get with her)

PS I know it's an insane question, but I thank you in advance for trying to answer it , and I know I should not be outcome dependent, but my whole goal with pick up is to get to the point where I can get any girl I want 90% of the time, and again thank you

Hey indianlatin,

Yes, there is a way to build a female social circle without inviting them to your place or spending much money. A bar or lounge near your college is a great place to start. Pick a day to hold a weekly event where you can invite everyone you know for happy hour. It is a public place so you don't need them at your place and since it is a bar they will all be buying their own drinks at cheap happy hour prices.

And yes, there are specific techniques to gaming 10s+ but to be honest mate, it is far too lengthy to teach over a forum post...I teach weekend bootcamps on that specific topic so it's a 3 day event. The short answer is already the path you're going on and that is social circle.

Cheers mate!

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Hey Adam,

Thanks for all of your advices mate, thanks for answering my field reports, etc2. And congratulations on your marriage too! Have a happy and blessed new life. ;)

So Adam, if you noticed my posts in your thread, for the last 8 months, it's revolving on the same one girl. I know, maybe yourself will be like "that's too long" or something, but I believe she was attracted to me. And thanks to your method, and your simple book "Principles of Attraction", she was the 1st girl ever that I've ever been on an instant date, she's the 1st girl that I attracted in a correct away, etc.

So Adam, it was all beautiful moments, if it's not because of the logistics (she can't drive, and her chauffeur is sick when she's able to meet me, and I can't pick her up, because I can't drive either!!) she would be fallen in to arms. So after that 1 failed attempt to hang out with her, I went out of the town for 3 weeks, and what I thought is I messed up in this "keep in touch before attempting another try to ask her out" period.

I was needy because I deeply fell in love with her ( we haven't got together yet, but I know she is attracted to me, judged from her compliance and investment in me), so I sent needy texts, implying that she' more commited than it is, etc. So until one day, I texted her "You know, it sucks that we have to say goodbye so soon, and it's really rare to find somebody who I actually want to hang out with, somebody who's actually interesting. I've met a lot of girls, (she knows that I have a lot of female friends) and there's just something unique about you. So that's why I invite you for a final hang out with us (me and my best friend Grace, we've been out once).
(she's moving to another city, so I told her it might be the last hangout). When are you free?"

And she was like "IDK, I feel so happy that we have to say goodbye so soon, haha kidding XD.. seems like you're busy eh? Talk to you later and I'm never free.. hehehe.... good bye!".

I thought "game over". It's not funny at all,and she reacted really differently now.


So Adam, I'll be seeing another girl, dating another, but maybe I won't find a girl of her quality (intelligence, dilligence, etc.). Maybe I will, but it would never be the same.

Is it still possible to recite her interest?? I know that this things happens, because girls are all about emotion. She'll be moving out of town, so is it possible? Long long before, I've managed to get a high value guy in her eyes, she complimented my honesty, understandings of women, etc, and she's even still interested after I told her that I'm a student of yours (I recommended your method to her too ;). Is it the same way as getting your ex back??

Thanks a million, mate!!

Best pal,
Steven ;)
Hey desertfox565,

Yep, this one is tough. In a situation like this the best advice I can give is don't chase a dead set. You asked her to hang out one last time before she moves and she just about flat out said no. If she's moving away to a different city then it will be a LOT harder to see her then... If you're not getting compliance when you're near each other then you will not get it when you're far away.

She might have been interested initially but from what you said it doesn't seem like it now. So like I said, don't chase a dead set. Instead of putting time in and investing in this girl find 5 more and start all over again with them. It sucks, but it's the best thing to do.

Hope this helps mate.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:21 am 
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Hey Adam, I just wanna say first that I love your material, I listen to you every day in my car. Thanks for all you've done man, seriously.

My problem isn't with approaching, opening, or comfort building. I have a SERIOUS issue with LMR. I can get girls into a room, and make out for as long as I want, but I'd say that 75% of the time I don't get further than that. I'll go for the button on her pants and she'll take my hand and put it somewhere else. This gets incredibly frustrating and most of the time i'll just leave. This happened to me last night. Happened to me two weeks ago, and at least 4 other times in recent memory. So, as I'm typing this I have 4 hickeys on the right side of my neck, but did not get laid last night. How can I break down this resistance? Thanks in advance.

-Jeremy
Hey Chevylover,
If you're able to get a girl back to a spot where its' just the two of you and your isolated then there should not be a problem with LMR. Getting back to your/her place is about 80% of the battle, so there is no excuse to fail on the last 20%.

One of the best ways I have found of making sure you don't get LMR is to have a justification of what you're doing. For example, when you are in your bed and making out saying something like “I love that you're so carefree and comfortable with your sexuality. That's a big turn on” will let her know that you won't judge her for her actions so she will be comfortable with it. Even something simple like opening a bottle of wine to share when you're back at your place will help... The point isn't to get drunk but it will give her a justification in her head. She'll be able to think 'oh, we were just at his place drinking wine and it just happened!'

Try these out, they should definitely help. Good luck mate.

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Hey Adam, general questions:

1. I am playful and a funny guy, but to be "that person", I need to be in state, which not a state that I'm always in. If I'm not in state, my teasings become insulting and it becomes a little bit difficult. So how do I "pump her state" a.k.a being fun in moment like this?? Can I pump her state or add value by giving a lot of fun topics to talk about instead??

2. For social circle game, do I have to get close to each person in the circle? Or having them as hang out friends is enough?? Because getting close to each of the entourage member is too tiring and time consuming.

Thanks for this one, mate!!

Best pal,
Steven ;)

Hey desertfox565,

I'll be honest here, I'm not a big believer in state. Yes, there are days where your attitude is better than others and days where even the smallest thing can make life difficult, but that should not effect your ability to game. You don't need to be high energy and happy all the time. There is such thing as low-energy game so maybe for the days where you don't feel “in state” so use that to your advantage. No need to try and run around being the fun guy all the time. Allow yourself to chill and build deep, genuine connections through conversation.

And for social circles, no, you don't need to be BFF with every person. Choose who your close friends will be and then allow the others to be surface friends. It's ok to have a lot of acquaintances, just make sure that you are still able to add value so that you don't get the reputation of being someone who uses people.

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Ok, just copy/pasted from FB

Hey Adam,

first of all, congrats to you and Amanda for getting married, best wishes to both of you,

second, i have a question that would kinda suit your style of game (social proof, social circle, etc). I work as a bartender and "party guide" (like tour guide for big dance events like Sensation White and stuff) from time to time so i keep in touch with a lot of hostesses and other good looking girls, but its always a 1 on 1 interaction. I was planning to throw a house party when i'll have the house to myself (ye well, i'm 19, don't have my own place), to kinda create a new social circle (my old one is like 75% guys and they are terrible with women. And no, i dont want to make them wings.) So what should i be aware of when putting a bunch of hot girls who don't know each other in the same room for the first time? Is it even a good idea? And what should i do with my old social circle & how to keep them away from the party so they don't "leech" off my value? They know the party will be happening and all want to come, but cant really "contribute" anything to it...

Thanks in advance man, you are a real inspiration.

T.K.

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Social proof rocks, especially when your date is late and when she comes you are already sitting down with a FHM girl (With who you arrange to go partying the next week) ;)

Hey TheTK,

Yes, it is an amazing idea to put a bunch of hot girls in the same room! That is where your preselection will be skyrocketed and, as I've said a hundred times before, preselection is the only psychologically proven trigger of attraction.

The good thing about girls is that they entertain themselves. Be a good host by introducing some people that might not know each other... for example if you know that certain girls have something in common then introduce them and they'll keep each other occupied all night while you get to socialise with everyone.

In terms of your friends... tell them they can only come if they bring 3 girls themselves (ny rule used to be 10 girls but I had big parties in big nightclubs). That will weed out the ones that can't contribute and the ones that can bring the girls are the ones you won't mind being there since they're adding value.

Have fun with this mate!

Adam


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:40 am 
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Hey Adam, hope ur doing well.

I've got three questions I'm hoping you're able to answer.

1. How do I act positive/add value without being the guy thats too pushy or too dancing monkey like. Because it seems that when I try to be those things, I seem try hard or maybe too pushy.

2. what do I do when I ask compliance from someone and she refuses to comply?

.. and how do you deal with someone who takes advantage of your good intentions of helping out? maybe they constantly ask you ro do favours, or something like that. How do I prevent from becoming a pushover?
Heya Thepaper,

The easiest way to add value without coming off like a performing monkey is to build that social life. If you're the life of the party or, more importantly, the dude who organised the party everyone will be too busy sucking up to you to worry about whether you added value or not.

If you don't get compliance, simply shift back a gear and go for a smaller level of compliance. If they won't walk with you to the bar perhaps they would play a game of thumb war to decide who is going to carry the drinks from the bar...there is more than one way to skin a cat, if she loses...she's coming with you.

Don't do someone favours unless you really know them well and don't mind helping. You shouldn't be doing favours for girls you don't know.


Hope this helps!

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Hey Adam,

first of all i wanna thank you for all your hard work you put in this forum and answering all of our questions!

Now here is my question:
im 20 years old and in college, now this is the time where everybody is getting drunk all the time and everybody thinks thats cool. Well, i dont drink and everytime i talk to a girl she ask why i dont drink. They think this is just lame and a big turn off. How do you handle it when a girl asks you why you dont drink?

Many thanks,

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:12 am 
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Hey Adam,

first of all i wanna thank you for all your hard work you put in this forum and answering all of our questions!

Now here is my question:
im 20 years old and in college, now this is the time where everybody is getting drunk all the time and everybody thinks thats cool. Well, i dont drink and everytime i talk to a girl she ask why i dont drink. They think this is just lame and a big turn off. How do you handle it when a girl asks you why you dont drink?

Many thanks,

Rich
Hey Rich89,

I completely feel you on this one because I don't drink either. Honestly, just tell the truth. Tell them you don't drink for whatever reason it is. Any girl who thinks it is lame is someone who you don't want to spend your time with, so it weeds them out for you.

What you can do to help avoid those questions is to have a drink in your hand. If you're at a party then hold a Red Bull, Coke or water in your hand. If you're holding a cup or can people will most likely not notice that you're not drinking.


Honestly mate, not drinking really will help your game so don't think twice about it. You will be socially calibrated, able to control yourself and not look like a food. Don't even think twice about it!



Adam


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:35 pm 
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You ve sead to me to feel free to repost you here...Well here I am...
Look im having problems with situational openers....I really dont know how to use them and how to practice them...Im using few openers for a month now...And im sick of them....HELP....


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You ve sead to me to feel free to repost you here...Well here I am...
Look im having problems with situational openers....I really dont know how to use them and how to practice them...Im using few openers for a month now...And im sick of them....HELP....


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Hey Adam
Great PUA man i base alot of my style of talking off of what u teach its good stuff i think it is deff the best

anyways i hav a question, i am 17 years old, read The Game like begining of last year. b4 that i was alright with girls, now i skyrocketed. 16 lays in one year, b4 that only 1.

i feel that i am pretty natural at this stuff but i want to no if there is any advanced bootcamps for ppl more my age? i dont mind if i went to a seminar with older gents but if there was one more my age like 18 range that would be better ha..less awkward cause im a little small and wut not

oh by the way it would be like a dream to go out and sarge with u haha i would love to learn some more advanced stuff. il bring 12 hot girls promise haha

mR.e

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Hi mate, basically i got one itis told her i liked her her reply was " if you had said a week ealier things would have been different..but im meeting someone now and im not the kind of person to go behind peoples back" literally could you give me a tried and tested method of turning this round so she chases me. the appreciation would literally be huge haha! ta

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Hey Adam keep up the good work :)

I only have 2 questions:

1. Let's say you befriended a few girls, and they become a part of your social circle, but now you want to hook up with one of them or some of them. From your point of view what is the easiest way to break out of the "friend zone" that you created and escalate with one of the girls, without making it seem weird?
In your PUA Diaries you said that you befriend the "Princesses" and you ended up sleeping with a few of them, same thing how did you break out of the friend zone, that you yourself created.....
I probably know that you are going to say "Break rapport so you will create attraction" but I can not do because I'm a really C&F/Tease + Touchy + Sexual in nature guy, with everyone I befriend, so I'm already breaking rapport by being me, and I feel if I escalate further to a close it will be weird because I feel that the attraction that I cause just by being me is blending with comfort...What is your thought on this?

2. I was at a party last night and there were this 2 girls, I liked one of them so I decided to make her my target for the night. Of course instead of trying to pick her up, I was being social and basically befriending everyone all night. By the end of the night I started escalating with her more, presuming attraction after all the social proof I created.
Now here comes the problem, while I was escalating, she told me like 2 times that her friend who she was with "liked me" "wanted me" etc. But after saying that she still didn't stop my escalation.
Like I understand why her friend was attracted to me, but now I'm really interested, what she said meant? Like was it just a shit test to see how I react or was she just reasoning out loud with herself, telling herself that "I told the guy you liked him but he likes me more, but I still told him", or was that even a hint for a 3some? o.O
I also didn't take it as a "rejection" I saw all her IOI very clearly...
How would you react and take something like that?
First time I remember just saying "No" and keep escalating, and the second time I just told her straight up that my target was my type, and I described herself.
Was this the right move?
ps: I'm also a really touchy guy so without even thinking about it, I was kind of showing IOIs to my friend's target, is that okay to do, or should you limit the touching even if the target doesn't say something like: "my friend likes you"

Thanks Adam

V3nu
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Adam,

First, thanks for all the help you're providing. Your webite (attractionexplained) has been incredibly useful. The fact you explain why something needs to be done and then go into the "hows" makes everything so much easier to understand.

I'm only just starting out, so I apologise if you've already answered my question, or something like it.

I opened a set last night in which I felt I was doing really well. I spent a lot of time talking to this girl, making her qualify herself, doing kino escalation etc. It got to a point were we both felt very comfortable. She then told me that she had a boyfirend but was going to break up with him as she'd found out he'd been cheating. (long story short) Her mates wanted to move to a different area of the club, so I got her number and said I'd text her later that night.

When I texted, she replied really bluntly that she'd already left the club.

My quesiton is: what could I have done to better close the set and what wud be the best way to try and take it forward now?

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