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Ok so its obvious that one shouldnt exceed the point where you are not in control anymore and hence cause your game to deteriorate. But in my opinion ANY alcohol consumption is already effecting your natural game from the 1st drink.

I would be interested to know how many of you go out absolutely stone soba the entire night, and those of you that have a good couple of drinks through out the night.

mate when im gaming i have up to 5 drinks a night over obviously a period of time maybe more... I find my game is a little better with abit of alcahol im more confident and rejection hits me less.

Besides it affects your natural game, alcohol is expensive. If you go out 5 times a week and you drink, it will cost you a lot of money.. But on social occasions I think one to five beers stretched out over a night will be okay. If you like it, you'll feel a little more relaxed and you'll still be able to remember everything and give yourself good feedback.

Because i'm a topsporter I can't drink at all because of training. But drinking alcohol also affects your sleeping quality. That's why I drink as less as possible, even if I don't have to train. Sarging a couple of nights a week requires a good stable sleeping rhythm, and alcohol will affect it.

The best feeling is to wake up the next morning, being fresh, no hangover, and able to remember everything you tried the night before. Priceless!

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I agree, my only thing I want to be able to display PEAK performance stone soba, else you really are relying on the alcohol at the end of the day. This also means your day game would be horrible...unless youre a day drinker (which im hoping youre not .

Anyone else out there that used to piss it up but then eventually converted to a 24/7 soba PUA when out at night?

100%!

It depends what your going out for i go out on the weekends to get drunk with the boys and have a laugh.Gaming is just the bit to do when i get bored. If im day gaming obviously im sober.

my argument is that when you're 'in field' you gotta be having fun, you need to get relaxed and if you're too stuck thinking about women this is what will affect your natural game..

Hello,

I have been trying to handle the approach anxiety thing since I started and read mystery method where he said that you should'nt drink and will notice a big improvement in your game if you don't.
well obviously this is Mystery's slant on it and that is cool but I am now seeing others drinking and having fun and have to admit that I am much more confident with a drink or two in me but since I started have resisted.
I don't know but I am seriously thinking about having a few before I go out just to get me in the party mood.
I have to admit that I don't care so much when I have a bit to drink and am all round more likely to approach.
At the moment I am doing a few approaches but I don't create any attraction. I am not bad looking but my insecurities fuck me up every time.

I can approach now with much less AA but I think that to escalate is just going to be too much for me to do confidently. I guess also that maybe alchohol might not be the answer either and perhaps would be sneaking in the back door a little to success.

obviously the ideal thing would be to work on your game and deal with it and accept that rejection is part and parcel of ultimate success. I go out with a bunch of guys and see them drinking loads before we hit the club. Women in general are much more comfortable with a guy who is still in control of himself.

Well guess I will carry on without the drink and do without the nasty morning after s when you are left with that "what the heck did I do?" feeling. In fact some people are quite impressed that I go the whole night on just seven up although downside is that I waste too much time.

Which is why, this week I am planning on doing an approach every fifteen minutes as opposed to waiting for a nice girl to get within my proximity. I waste far too much time hanging around the bar checking out the babes waiting for eye contact and then do nothing.

What is the point of this thread?

You will find people in two catergories mostly:

1) People who go out with their boys and do not concern themselves with meeting girls unless they see someone they like or sounds interesting they will throw game, and they just tend to take the night on the whim as they are there to have fun with friends so there is no limit. ---MOI style

2) People who go out on their own, with wing or smaller group who limit their drink to a few or do not consume any alcohol to ensure game is tight. They want to have fun with friends but main aim hence the low alcohol consumption-is to game.

There is no right or wrong answer- you just need to go out and see which you prefer and analyse the scenario:

Are you having more fun being sober gaming girls? or did you lose out on the night because girls thought you were tooooo shithoused to even walk?

It is down to personal choice.

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Back in my AFC days, I used alcohol as my crutch and it got me nowhere. Sometimes you might get lucky, but more often than not it just ended up with stupid outcomes like a slap, beer poured over head, blown out, rejection.

Fast forward to learning about The Game and my most successful nights have been when I've been at parties where there's very little alcohol flowing in others and myself included.

However, I can still have one or two now or then and I'm in control, it gives you that little extra dutch courage and that certainly can help, but I don't like to drink too much as I lose a grip on the interactions and start saying things too quickly without due thought.

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Well for me its all about just having fun !! Alcohol does indeed help with aproaching anxiety and in my case I display a more confident game. When I go out sober its just not that much fun , I think too much...you get too much into your head. Im naturally a very laid back person (J´s), and alcohol helps me loosen up! I´m all about natural game, and alcohol as a drug esentially helps me and most of my friends to just display our most confident and extroverted side.

Throughout the process of opening, getting confortable with the girl, then going in to seduction..and finally closing; Alcohol just speeds up my process of thinking and evaluating the situation and not feeling any remorse or fear of rejection. If I do feel like im way too pissed then ill just laugh away the "shame" with my buddies!

On dates of course I show my laid back (sober) game which most girls adore since they already got to see my wild side and now they are priviledged enough to actually get to know the real me !

Alcohol is somewhat essential in my style of game and hopefully someday I can get to that energetic state without any drinks

You got slapped, beer poured over your head? Some cultures must be brutal to live in... I've gotten punched and kicked some times, but those were guys and I was not hitting on them, I was more like drunkenly drooling over their girlfriends. Hehe, sometimes me and my friends just go out to raise hell, it's fun once in a while. Maybe you'll get in a fight and end up waking up with a deformed nose and some bloody knuckles. Or maybe you just end up with an ugly ass fat chick and have to sneak out in the morning only to discover you don't know where the hell you are.
I'd agree though, getting drunk is bad for hitting on sober chicks, but it can be a lot of fun.
Oh, about the alcohol flow. Why would you not want the girls to drink a lot?

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ALCOHOL IS A SOCIAL LUBRICANT!

Yes, I quote Roger Dodger- and proud of it.

Look, we talk about evolution and all kinds of social dynamics on this stuff. But we have to look at the bigger picture and look at EVERY culture- not just our own

After all- sex is happening in every country

Russia- they drink vodka like it's water, do they have sex?
Europe- absynth anybody? Wine?
Ireland- Proud to admit I am Irish, Do they spread their seed? I rest my case...
Tribes away from society- they all have their own strategies to get high and drunk!

Question is all about your own level

If you are after an outcome- ie "I want every girl in this bar to want me"
then don't drink. .

If you are happy in your own social circle and world.....whilst casually talking to people as you go.......
you will naturally drink less. Or even if you drink loads....you will not be focussed on the outcome of "i have to attract her!!!"

Getting too wrapped into the outcome is pointless. Goal orientation is the only reason that would stop you drinking fully or not at all

but let me ask you this........

How many girls do you meet when it is NOT in a drinking scenario? Ie- outside the club

I think that is what you want to achieve....
In a library, coffee shop, bus queue, taxi rank, salesgirl at your door etc.....

Dont think you need to cut out part of your life just to compensate for your EVERYDAY social skills

Enjoy the social highs...

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I don't drink at all when in field. I don't want to depend on liquid courage.

I mean do you really like alcohol? i personally dont.. it tastes like shit..

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look deep in yourself and figure out whats going on.. why your doing it and make strong direct choices as a man to stop.

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