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And I agree with you Sorin I've seen a lot of ugly ass dudes with hot chicks.

I think the hot chicks w/ low self esteem are like that tho.
The fat dude can also have a lot of money or the girl can be an escort. :wink:
No, some girls are amazingly hot with low self esteems...

I'm talking about girls my age (17-18)
Yes there are hot girls out there that do have low self esteem. And they are not just 17-18 year olds. I have ran into hot 25 year olds with low self esteem. But there is also various types of girls out there that go for different type of guys.


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I don't really think its a question of being good looking or not. To women,

Tall = Goodlooking

So next time you think some nerdy guy/PUA or otherwise seems to still be able to get the girls ask yourself one question. Is he tall. Lol, he could have the head of a Goat with horns and anything provided that he's tall it won't matter.
I'm 5"6 and I mostly dated girls that were taller than me. And they weren't close to ugly.

Height=irrelevant.
Tall men are height of attraction for women, study finds

Thursday, January 13, 2000

By RICK CALLAHAN
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

If it seemed as if the tall guys got all the girls in high school, it wasn't your imagination. New research suggests taller men are more likely to marry and tend to have more children than short guys.

What's behind the phenomenon -- whether women prefer taller men or those men are simply more outgoing -- is up for debate. But the numbers clearly stack up against shorter guys.

Polish and British scientists studied the medical records of about 3,200 Polish men ages 25 to 60 and found that childless men were on average 1.2 inches shorter than men who had at least one child.

Bachelors were about an inch shorter on average than married men. That was true even after researchers took into account the fact that men's heights increased in recent decades because of better nutrition and health care.

The findings were published in today's issue of the journal Nature.

The records, which were collected in Wroclaw, Poland, from 1983 to 1989, showed that tall men in their 20s, 30s and 40s all had more children than their shorter peers.

Height did not seem to matter for men in their 50s. Robin I.M. Dunbar of the University of Liverpool said that is because those men came of age after World War II -- a catastrophe that claimed the lives of many Polish men and reduced women's mating options.

However, Dunbar said the numbers clearly show that women favor taller men -- something that other research suggests is true across all cultures.

"Basically, height is a proxy for other variables that women find desirable -- men who can protect them, provide them with resources, have good social status and aren't easily dominated by other men," said Dunbar, a professor of evolutionary psychology and the study's co-author.

Out of the military service records of 4,400 men, the researchers excluded men who were abnormally short or tall. The average height of the 3,200 men whose records were part of their final sample was 5 feet 6 inches.

The researchers meant to study men whose height and reproductive success were not so gargantuan, or so small, as to have skewed their results. Their methodology would have excluded someone like Wilt Chamberlain, the 7-foot-1-inch basketball star who bragged of sleeping with 20,000 women.

While other studies have shown that taller-than-average men have higher incomes and social status than shorter men, this study is the first to demonstrate a direct link between height and reproductive success, said David Buss, a professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin.

Buss, who has written two books on human mating habits, said the female preference for taller males harkens back to the earliest stages of human evolution. That was a time when prehistoric women chose mates who could offer them the best protection and provide for their needs.

"This study shows that even in modern times the kind of selection we might think of as prehistoric continues to operate," he said.

Dunbar said he undertook the research after noticing that in personal ads men advertised their height only if they were tall or taller than average.

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I Can find dozens of study's published in peer-edited scholarly journals that all suggest that height is one of, if not the most, important thing in female dating/mate selection preferences. I chose the one above because it is the most simple one to read but still illustrates my point.

TO THE GUY WHO'S TALL BUT STILL CAN'T GET CHICKS. YOU MUST REALLY BE A LOSER OR PERHAPS YOU'RE FAT, POOR, OR OF AN ETHNICITY THAT IS TYPICALLY VIEWED POORLY IN THE DATING SCENE.

I'm not trying to be mean, just stating facts.


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^ Yeah........because we all know that short guys can't protect their loved ones and height is all that matters in a fight or whatever >_>

Not only that but its not a person's fault how tall they are.


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^ Yeah........because we all know that short guys can't protect their loved ones and height is all that matters in a fight or whatever >_>

Not only that but its not a person's fault how tall they are.
That's right. I'm glad you can see things my way. :D

Oh and if you read my post above you'll note that the original study was published in Nature. For those of you who don't know, Nature is one of the most respected journals in the world. If it's in nature, at the very least the data is correct, as is most things the conclusions drawn are subject to interpretation.


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^ Yeah........because we all know that short guys can't protect their loved ones and height is all that matters in a fight or whatever >_>

Not only that but its not a person's fault how tall they are.
No, no . . . Not "WE" all know. You can only claim what YOU know. In this game, you have to accept that how other view the World. With acceptance, you can better form a strategy for your own benefit. Pretending that this isn't an issue at all will only make you an ignorant pua.

Secondly, what VitaminA suggests is true. This study is open to our interpretation. The conclusion of this study is that taller people marry earlier and have more children. This study really has very little to do with "getting MORE chicks". Based on this study, shorter guys could in fact get MORE chicks which could result in marrying later on in their lives and also procreating less.

Also . . . consider this. Height is the only factor that has yet to be statistically proven to have positive correlation with long term income. Thus, financial stability of taller guys could also play a role with the conclusion of this study that "taller men marry earlier".


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Well there's no denying height is a definite factor that girls will weigh when choosing a mate. However, acceptance is the only real thing you can do here.

That's not to say short guys can't get hot girls, it just means the taller men have a better starting advantage. Personally I think with the right attitude you can do quite a bit, including grabbing hot babes, regardless of what kind of status/looks/features you may have. Positive thinking and confidence go a long way.


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I don't hear you talking about picking up ugly girls with great personalities??? Nature has a way of pairing two people up that are alike. Let's get real and understand that if you are not that attractive then you better have some money or talent cause the pretty ones aren't going to be interested! If you are looking for a companion than look for someone that has the same interests as you and is in the same league as you. Or get some money or talent and then get hot chicks no matter what you look like.
I've tried Phermax Pheromones and they work so maybe try that but come on... have something to offer a chick (looks, money or talent) and/or date within your league!
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If you are playing a routine to a woman clearly into you and then her attention is pulled away by some baby-faced Justin Timberturd look-a-like.. you, as a PUA, should destroy the guy where he stands, he probably does not have a lot going on upstairs - so outwit him infront of the girl.. make him the less attractive target - assert yourself as AMOG

if you let this get to you - you are just hurting your game by getting mad, women have the sixth sence for picking up on frustrations and anger issues..


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I've tried Phermax Pheromones and they work so maybe try that but come on...
Lol. I approve of your shamelessness....



If you wanted to advertise, don't you think it would be better to atleast change your username so as not to indicate your affiliation with the product you promote


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^ Yeah........because we all know that short guys can't protect their loved ones and height is all that matters in a fight or whatever >_>

Not only that but its not a person's fault how tall they are.
That's right. I'm glad you can see things my way. :D

Oh and if you read my post above you'll note that the original study was published in Nature. For those of you who don't know, Nature is one of the most respected journals in the world. If it's in nature, at the very least the data is correct, as is most things the conclusions drawn are subject to interpretation.
I take it you dont understand sarcasm, do you?

@ Kasabi: I have no idea what you said there.


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I Can find dozens of study's published in peer-edited scholarly journals that all suggest that height is one of, if not the most, important thing in female dating/mate selection preferences. I chose the one above because it is the most simple one to read but still illustrates my point.

TO THE GUY WHO'S TALL BUT STILL CAN'T GET CHICKS. YOU MUST REALLY BE A LOSER OR PERHAPS YOU'RE FAT, POOR, OR OF AN ETHNICITY THAT IS TYPICALLY VIEWED POORLY IN THE DATING SCENE.

I'm not trying to be mean, just stating facts.
I guess my point was a little more hidden that I thought. My point with the above post was that height is not the all to be all thing like people think it is. Yes it certainly an advantage I have over guys that are shorter than me. But it is no where close to the all to be all thing you think it is. For one a lot of these studies are done with removing the social environment and a lot of the social rules/laws so that they can analyze one specific thing without to many variables in the mix. If you where to take a look at reality, do you really think a girl is going to find a guy that is say 6'4" approaching her with a weak frame/body language? I bet you most girls will not find him attractive even tho he is tall, or he is going to loose attraction "points" because of it.

I am just pointing out the reality of things when it comes to height. You can post all of the studies you want about all of the social advantages of being tall. I am quiet aware of them. And I see them play out in the real world all the time. But as I pointed out there is a difference between these studies and reality.


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looks matters,but not the most.


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You are funny and btw... love your name "Vitamin A"
Just thought this would be the perfect audience for the product. I wasn't trying to hide who I was, what I was doing or saying. I really didn't think it was a big deal. I thought this was a place to discuss pick up techniques that work and they work. But I can see how they don't want it to become a big sales pitch too. That must be frustrating. Anyways, thanks for the comment and I will keep my pu products to myself from now on. Have a great day!
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I've tried Phermax Pheromones and they work so maybe try that but come on...
Lol. I approve of your shamelessness....
If you wanted to advertise, don't you think it would be better to atleast change your username so as not to indicate your affiliation with the product you promote

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^ Yeah........because we all know that short guys can't protect their loved ones and height is all that matters in a fight or whatever >_>

Not only that but its not a person's fault how tall they are.
That's right. I'm glad you can see things my way. :D

Oh and if you read my post above you'll note that the original study was published in Nature. For those of you who don't know, Nature is one of the most respected journals in the world. If it's in nature, at the very least the data is correct, as is most things the conclusions drawn are subject to interpretation.
I take it you dont understand sarcasm, do you?

@ Kasabi: I have no idea what you said there.
Corey, I think it is you who does not understand sarcasm...


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after seeing 4 foot indian guys prounce around with white girls, while the white model quality guys are in ore, and after seeing a old 60 year old men pickup 28 year old women..

im pretty safe to say that its you whose at fault, your inner personality not the looks you have.

Women just dont fucking care

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