Just thought I'd share this one cause I love it and am so proud.

This neg works best with daygame or HBs you see often and requires a little reptoire with them.

Any discussion about , likes dislikes in men/women, sets this up.

"
HB: " I just want a guy that will wash my feet/ feed my puppy/ pay my bills."

Big max: " yeahh.. I'm generally only attracted to women with personalities [ Reference something they kinda resemble].

Big Max: (Playful) See that's why we could never date."

HB: What? Huh, Your joking?"

Big Max: Name, Let's see if you get this..., Why could we never date?"

HB: I don't know"

Big Max: " Cause your dumb, Name." ( Be very careful and playful.)


Later after you've established a tease about not being interested, continue throwing your mad game and then when they're not paying attention quiz them.

" Big Max : And why again was it we couldn't date?"

HB: Ummmm, uhhh, because ... because I'm dumb?"

As long as you keep it playful you can avoid offending them, Abort quickly if they're not playing along cause this one can be killer if you don't pull it off... Trust me.

so far it's worked most of the time, They generally start to mention how datable I am shortly afterwords... Any advice on shortening or sharpening this one up is more than welcome.

I generally avoid dumb girls, which I can tell in the first min. if they are dumb or not. I understand that is not your point, but I don't like to use to dumb as a neg. No one likes being called dumb, even if it is neg. I will use retarded though, because people feel pitty for retards so it's a bit funnier and playful. Not too shabby though....

_________________
"In all things be a master.
Of what you do, say and think." -Buddha

EPICC!!
ima use it haha

_________________
wheelin

See, I'll never do this. I feel a conversation with an attractive woman should build a girls value in front of my eyes...instead of take it aside and beating it mercilessly.

True...many women will fall for this if you play it right. But continually negging a woman doesn't seem natural. Sooner or later the woman's going to feel sorry for you, cause they'll think you have an ego complex, and she'll finally think "I'm wasting my time", and leave you alone. And I most definitely wouldn't even think about using a neg on a girl that was "sub-par" looking. It'll fuck with her emotions to the point that she won't even want to try and qualify herself to you, and she'll take your words to heart and won't bother with you. You've made yourself clear.

That is why I don't use neg theory. It's a good rule for beginners that have problems talking to women in the first place... but once your game grows, it becomes something you should try taking away from your style.

...Just a thought

_________________
You all take 'er easy. And if she's easy, take her twice.

[quote="Tom_"Maybe""]See, I'll never do this. I feel a conversation with an attractive woman should build a girls value in front of my eyes...instead of take it aside and beating it mercilessly.

True...many women will fall for this if you play it right. But continually negging a woman doesn't seem natural. Sooner or later the woman's going to feel sorry for you, cause they'll think you have an ego complex, and she'll finally think "I'm wasting my time", and leave you alone. And I most definitely wouldn't even think about using a neg on a girl that was "sub-par" looking. It'll fuck with her emotions to the point that she won't even want to try and qualify herself to you, and she'll take your words to heart and won't bother with you. You've made yourself clear.

That is why I don't use neg theory. It's a good rule for beginners that have problems talking to women in the first place... but once your game grows, it becomes something you should try taking away from your style.

...Just a thought[/quote]


Do you know why you dont use neg theory? your gonna say its for beginners? and your gonna say, we should take it away? from our style??? you sir are the beginner and you sir dont know what disqualifers are, i suggest you read a book!!!! i suggest vensusian arts handbook! the negs give you character!! you can come in a set and just be hilarious!! but i guess you rather go in a set boring as shit??? wheres the fun? wheres the jokes??? how do you enter a set without the negs!!!!!!! you would just boring and lame, okay you come in a set with what agian? a1 a2? dhv setup??? that style is for beginners!! you disgust me sir!!! please read a book and learn disqualifers!!! and neg theroy!!!!

please come to my link of negs!
the-real-negs-including-bhrr-vt55143.html

_________________
forever

I've read plenty a book on seduction, and I've read the book Mystery has put out , been to plenty of seminars and dealt with many of women to base my own theories on seduction.

You can have fun,be funny, disqualify yourself, and set the tone of any conversation without using neg theory. And by the way....you're character has nothing to do with negs....your character is you as a person and not something you can learn in a book. I've had this mindset about neg theory pretty much sense I began picking up women.

You want a girl to want to qualify herself, not merely for the fact that you've put her down "In Her Place", but because she genuinely feels you're of higher status than her. And how do you do this? You convey your self-esteem and confidence to her that is of high abundance. She'll feed off it, and you can give her confidence as well by giving her compliments. This will end the girl thinking you're too good for her, and you'll have a balanced conversation with her...she won't feel too good for you, and she won't feel too low for you, but equals.

What most people don't realize is that inner game teaches that the Venusian Arts is more about building confidence, and making you feel better about yourself in any social setting, than merely getting a girl to sleep with you.

Here is the proper way to use a "neg", which...I wouldn't even call this a neg.

Lets say you go up to a girl in a bar. You say....

You: "You've got a little bit of a booger or something coming out your nose there."

and be laughing while you're doing it. She'll say something along the lines of....

Her: "Oh my god, thank you. I feel so stupid now." *Wipes her nose*

You: "Oh don't worry. I don't think you're like disgusting or anything...in fact...what's your name?"

That is a "neg" that covers as an opener as well. And it's more playful than anything.

_________________
You all take 'er easy. And if she's easy, take her twice.

A neg isn't meant to put someone down...

It is a joke. It is funny to be teased. Teasing = flirting. You don't flirt, you don't get very far.. if anywhere.


It's not "Hey you're dumb"
It's "I so could beat you in a thumbwar, I can tell you're not very good"

Ouch. I'm not much for putting people down, but we all play with different rules.

I can definitely see this working, bro, but I wouldn't resort to using it.

[quote="Tom_"Maybe""]I've read plenty a book on seduction, and I've read the book Mystery has put out , been to plenty of seminars and dealt with many of women to base my own theories on seduction.

You can have fun,be funny, disqualify yourself, and set the tone of any conversation without using neg theory. And by the way....you're character has nothing to do with negs....your character is you as a person and not something you can learn in a book. I've had this mindset about neg theory pretty much sense I began picking up women.

You want a girl to want to qualify herself, not merely for the fact that you've put her down "In Her Place", but because she genuinely feels you're of higher status than her. And how do you do this? You convey your self-esteem and confidence to her that is of high abundance. She'll feed off it, and you can give her confidence as well by giving her compliments. This will end the girl thinking you're too good for her, and you'll have a balanced conversation with her...she won't feel too good for you, and she won't feel too low for you, but equals.

What most people don't realize is that inner game teaches that the Venusian Arts is more about building confidence, and making you feel better about yourself in any social setting, than merely getting a girl to sleep with you.

Here is the proper way to use a "neg", which...I wouldn't even call this a neg.

Lets say you go up to a girl in a bar. You say....

You: "You've got a little bit of a booger or something coming out your nose there."

and be laughing while you're doing it. She'll say something along the lines of....

Her: "Oh my god, thank you. I feel so stupid now." *Wipes her nose*

You: "Oh don't worry. I don't think you're like disgusting or anything...in fact...what's your name?"

That is a "neg" that covers as an opener as well. And it's more playful than anything.[/quote]


CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!

nice try but those are not negs! wheres the hooks!!!???? wheres the comedy??? now i agree on some things you say are true yes! but why not do both??? when you walk up to a girl, how do you bulid and show her your convaying personality without negging?????????

now your example here is not a neg you can go to my thread sir and learn the bait hook reel relese girls to shit!!!!!!!!!!

how do you neg if you dont even know how to disqualify??/ you tell me?? you tell me sir!!!!

okay you read one book you have my gratittude! give me a example of no negging word for word when meeting a girl in a1 to a2 to a3, i ussure you if you walk up to a girl you must smile and be entertaining! so show me, how do you oopen without negging???

_________________
forever

Like...there is a fine line between making a playful assumption about somebody (Flirting), and doing something to make someone not only qualify themselves, but also stick up for themselves (Neg).

I remember when I was reading "The Game" by Neil Strauss when he did his first neg, and it went HORRIBLE!

It went something like...he did the best friends routine, and asked them if they both used the same shampoo. And it ended with him smelling one of the girls hair, and he got a nudge from Sinn, and he figured it was Sinn trying to tell him to begin negging her. So he said "It smells like smoke".

I remember it didn't exactly go well from there. My guess is that the girl takes her hair very seriously, and even a playful neg is going to make her feel inadequate.

Also notice the time Neil gamed on the playboy playmate at the bookstore. He didn't neg her once. He was straight forward with her, and he got the number to a fucking playboy playmate!

Fact of the matter is that you're going to get more flies with honey, than you are with vinegar. So why not even ignore that theory all together.

Yes...be playful, and make goofy assumptions about strangers, that is natural. But to say "After a while of rapport building, you should neg her like this..." is completely bush league. While you're rapport building it is INSANE to think "I'm going to put in a road block in this rapport building by saying this", and the girl isn't even going to be expecting that sort of behavior...so why even do it?

In my experience with the learning, and applying of knowledge I've learned through all these books I've read, and seminars I've attended... I've learned that it's best to not take as much emphasis in "neg theory", as it is to things like "Controlling the rooms SPAM", or learning about being in "State", and being "Authentic".

_________________
You all take 'er easy. And if she's easy, take her twice.

Let the girl disqualify you on her own.

For Example:

You: Hey, are you into like...horoscopes and all that noise?

Her: Oh, I don't care about horoscopes...

Notice...YOU'VE JUST MET THIS WOMAN. So she's going to assume you're going to be some freak that talks about horoscopes, and how "We're compatible because you're a Leo, and I'm a Gemini"...and so forth...so SHE HAS ALREADY DISQUALIFIED YOU!!!

You: Oh, no...I don't either...I mean...what's that shit like "You were born the night the moon eligned with Jupiter, That makes you a Goat?" What is that noise? No. I was just wondering, cause I wanted to test you on something. Are you ready?

All girls love being tested when their tipsy, or having fun in general...so...

Her: SURE!

*Do The Cube Test*

Her: Oh my GOD! That is so much better than horoscope.

Works everytime...and you disqualified yourself by being a dork in her eyes. But you played with it...and BOOM...attraction.

_________________
You all take 'er easy. And if she's easy, take her twice.