So like one problem I run into is that in a town like Billings, where I see the same fucking people most of the time I ending trying to game girls who I already know. This can be challenging because they may have some preconceived notion about you and that may force you to work a bit harder than if the HB was one who you had never met. By no means do I believe that this is not possible, I am just one who has limited success with it. So do you all have any stories where you successfully sarged girls you had known from the past. Trust me it is not impossible but it does present some interesting challenges. Thanks a bunch.

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My goal: To become a Pickup Artist in everything but name.

And yeah, This is (still) just the beginning.

hahah i understand mann
i ahve idea wtsoever how to sarge girls u already know
like i used to like this girl before i knew anything about girls and tried to flirt with her
but i failed
and we used to talk online every 2 days
now she doesnt seem to be interested in talking to me and its been like a year now

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I'm having the same problems. I know exactly what you mean man. Gaming girls you already know is damn near impossible. The reason being that you have already been LJBFed if yhou already know the girl. Thus far through all the shit ive read and asked everyone i know that is in the game, it is damn near impossible to game a girl you already know. I'm trying though, and with some success but not much. The key thing ive found that with girls you already know is this, dont try the usual lines or tactics for gaming a girl. as you have said they have a preconcieved notion about you already. you need to fill that notion but keep up the kino and sexual innuendos. i recently had one of my very best friends, whom also happens to be an HB of about a 7 send me a pic of her topless just to show me tan lines. now, i seriously consider that an IOI, but i may be wrong. Joke with the girl, some sexual jokes, others just being plain old funny. hint at everything.

also, demonstrate that youre the leader in your group. If youre not already the leader, become it and start taking the lead. Start displaying 'cool guy' and alpha traits. Go off and do shit on your own,meet lots of people and keep the high energy/fun vibe going. Make these girl friend of yours wonder where you are for a while and to ask you where you disappeared to, make them miss your presence. Keep in mind a womens attraction for you is a momentary thing, as you soon as you change your behavior her feelings for you and perception of you can change immediately.

When I got into this community my attitude changed completely and i kinda merged to be the leader in our clubbing group, especially when it came to popularity with women in general. After about 2 months my best friends girl tried to kiss me in a club, quoting that she has been sexually attracted to me for the past 3 weeks. I said but what about 'my good friend' how can you do this, she said I love him and all but he's too needy etc and not enough [a few alpha traits]. Basically she wanted to bang my brains out in the bathroom (and she aint no slut).

I obviously refused to kiss her and told her what she was doing was way out of line (she was drunk but still no excuse). I didnt have the heart to tell my friend but i should have. Point is, you can flick that switch at any time mate.

Social circle gaming man! and build an attractive lifestyle

I am in the EXACT same situation man.. si I think this thread will come in handy for me big time.

What visionxx said makes lots of sense... u can't game her directly, through negs and DHV's, so game her indirectly, displaying a good social, alpha, successful existance...

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They can because they think they can

basically, every woman wants a guy who is good, and every woman wants the the fairy tale story of thinking that this guy is one thing when he REALLY is this awesome person she never knew about. This is my angle. Alot of people know me around here, its the middle of no where, so me being the awesome guy I am, I tend to know ALOT of people. Which means my work to display how cool I am is half done already. Now, back to my angle.
I go for the fairy tale. Every girl wants it, I'm one of the few guys who do too, and I know how to give it to them. The first thing you need to know, is that EVERY girl there has thought about you, even briefly, at least once. Just like YOU have. Now, she has NOT found the awesome guy that really gets her blood boiling. And what they want the most in the world, is a surprise. So here we go, its a girl you know and you want to wow them. Its perfect, especially if they know you. . . you say hi, give them a hug, and whisper into her ear, "You look amazing!" there is your hook. She now will look at you differently. Make eye contact, and let all of your intentions fill that gaze as you look at her. Giver he a little wink, and a good smile, and continue with your night. If you want her, go and talk like you normally would talk, except now you have created the EXACT frame you need to game her. The rest is up to you dude.

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I like your style and have thought about that whole "storybook" approach, i just never really knew exactly how to go about it. Im good at that approach to girls who havent gotten to no me so well yet, but i could totally see that working for girls i already know. Great post!

Hahaaha, Captn your approach is shock and awe like, I love it. So like two weeks ago before my most recent MCC hitch, I went to a bar w/ my buddy (we'll call him Jesus). The whole night I was basically hanging out w/ girls who I went to High School. The first one I saw was this one, lets call her HBmodel, she had I a BF (a dude who I totally respect) and all I did was like throw tons of negs and false disqualifiers and other shit like that her way. She eventually started throwing me IOIs, I mean not like really obvious stuff just like inviting me to sit down whatnot and other subtle shit. So you can change other peoples perceptions of you but it might take time, now Cap'n your approach is intriquing because it allows you to destroy those preconcieved notions very quickly. If you are going to be seeing this girl a fair bit, than doing it slowly may work better, but if you really have no idea when you are going to see this girl again than go with the story book approach and knock her socks off from the get-go. I mean throw her for a loop. All the gurus say that you "create your own reality." Why not bring her into that reality immediately, go for it, what have you really got to lose?

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Call me Sly.
My goal: To become a Pickup Artist in everything but name.

And yeah, This is (still) just the beginning.

Why not bring her into that reality immediately, go for it, what have you really got to lose?

You could lose her as a friend.

You need to remember that gaming girls you already know may jeapodise the relationship you already share. Think about it, if you've been friends with a chick for a fairly long time and become comfortable with each other just as friends, if you start to become flirty/sexual all of a sudden it could be kind of creepy.

If your already friended, turn them into wing girls. If you ever Had some sort of attraction with her, she will get Jelous if they see you hitting on everyone but them.They will wonder why you no longer want them. If you get the chance, tell her that you like her as a friend only. before she gets the chance to do it to you. I think this will confuse a girl. Role reversal guys. Change her position of power into a weekness, and when the bruse starts to form, Poke it!!!

many people dont want to be freinds and its better to get a yes or no answer then to be stuck in a limbo of desire

This is a very important thread. the only thing i have to add, is that you need to be extremely careful about who you actually hook up with if you're in a closed environment. you can flirt with whoever you want, but only close women who you genuinely want.

people's preconceived notions of who you are can be changed easily, just by mixing up how you act, but women in a small community tend to remember who has hooked up with who.