I just wanted to say to all these guys who are working on online sarging that online sarging is NOT real game. Online sarging should be used as a last option and if so, you should get the target out of her house really quick. Because you cant make her really attracted to you or built rapport via internet. You can only get her attention for a short period of time and if after that you havent met, she doesnt even answer your messages

So get out of your house and start playing the REAL GAME!

Cheers, Gun

hes sorta right..... even though i havent tried online yet there those who feel more comfortable online. For instance im very shy to talk to girls and the 3 second rule is working wonders and im improving but online that changes, ive been told by girls that go to school with me that i talk and flirt way more than when they see me where did he go? they tell me. This is the case for some as well idk if you can be a natural online but if you can i think i might be. Hell wish that can transition into my game.

I think you've missed the point what 'The Game' is. The game is played in the real world where you have to think fast and build attraction in real-time. Not getting a message and then taking 4 minutes to think about what to respond.
The internet and messaging just further perpetuates the AFC to build there own ideal world and project this unreal projection of themselves that they no whay reflect in real life.
Reread 'The Game" and under step one under the header 'Meet Style' Styles explains how he changed his 'inherent self' with Mysteries guidance. rAFC's and student-PUA are changing who they are, and not creating a illusion.

ur right holden oh and thanks for your advice on my topic lol yea your right idk but people still pull it off hell if they can more power to them

i think you are completely wrong

this girls i used to talk to online like 2 years ago ended being at the same club i went to like 2 months ago, shes was the shot girl and to make a long story short, i was the only guy out of our group who got a body shot off of her because she already "knew" me and felt comfortable with me doing it

also i wouldnt even think about gaming a chick online that i go to school with, i've tried it once, almost pulled it off, but messed it up pretty bad at senior prom, learned that lesson once, so i only talk to chicks online that i dont know if they live in other towns

Your just reaffirming my point. The only thing you got was kino, It's not like you f-closed her or anything. You could of because the comfort was there but for me I'd rather invest my energy into gaming and sarging than cashing it in for a measely body shot that went no where.

ive banged around 10 chicks JUST from myspace...still think its a bad idea?

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also when you are home at night and theres nothing better to do, why not at least try it

and though all i got was kino, i got a confidence boost because my friends were like, oh shit she didnt let any of us do that, your a pimp blah blah blah

thats has an effect

online is a good way to practice, test or enhance some your openers, dhv stories, etc. because you could enhance/practice/test it 10-100times a day until you get the results you wanted. Then use it when you hit the clubs.

Of course it's possible to build attraction over the internet. Maybe the easiest way is of you have an IM program, and not sending emails . Only thing is that you have to be good at picking your words, and seem much more interesting than anyone else.. But it's all practice I guess. It has been done, by AFCs even, so it's not impossible.

If I have nothing better to do.. like now.. it's wednesday, late and it's school tomorrow. There's no way I can go out sarging now, so why not start talking to a girl over MSN or at some community and meet her in a few days? It gives me something to do, and it spares me all the work of opening, reaching the hookpoint and close the girl. All you have to do when you meet is really build a little bit more comfort and then go right to attraction.

I see nothing wrong with it

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Online dating is one of the BEST dating simulators. Lets say you have a question on if a line will work but afraid to use it on the field. Try it on a girl online. There is even less risk then in the RL. For some reason online dating is looked down upon. If you make sure to close a number as soon as possiable. Don't get hooked just meeting them and not closing numbers.

The online thing is a great way to not only practice but bridge the gap in real life. It's conveniant and you can screen tons of girls in a very short amount of time. The point is to number close them and meet up in a short amount of time. I have a buddy that dismisses the benifit of online dating and that is fine.... I'm getting laid by 3 different women a week and keeping a steady rotation of new one's. To each his own!

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"If it squeals, mount it!"

Online IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO PRACTICE. Only really solid gamers can benefit. Newbies only keep themself from seeing the truth THEY DONT HAVE INNER GAME. ITS AN ILLUSION. +ONLINE YOU CANT BUILD ATTRACTION ONLY GET SOME ATTENTION. ONLINE SARGING IS PATHETIC. If you really wanna be a PUA get on the streets and go sarging.

Calm down man. There are tons of different reasons why online sarging is alright.

Women have put themselves out there for people to see. They either want attention or they want to find that special someone (maybe just for one night). And if they check it often then they either have friends on there or they are still looking. And no matter what, a woman never wakes up in the morning hoping that she won't get swept off of her feet today (yes from a movie, no I dont care.)

Now, if any one of these things are true then trying to meet them online is a plus.

One of the base points to be a PUA is "leave them better than you found them". This is important not just for you (because women talk) but for the community as well. If a woman has put herself out there for attention then you trying to get practice by starting up rapport helps both of you. If she is trying to find that special someone (or whatever) then again, both well and good for you. And if they are just there for friends then it gives guys practice at staying OUT of LJBFs WITHOUT kino, which is extremely difficult but can be done with the proper word choice and banter.

Also, it can be an extreme help in learning what type of person "people" are via their word choice. (Such as visual, audible, kinestetic) Which can be a huge help in establishing rapport. (If someone wants to know about this you can ask)


So, I state this again... There are tons of reasons online sarging is acceptable. Now, don't get me wrong. I think it should just be used as a secondary hobby to normal sarging. And should NOT... I repeat... NOT be used as a replacement for going out and meeting people! But, it can be a great help in tons of other ways, so don't discount it as useless excuses (Although some people may use it as one, and shouldn't!).

So relax man, if people want to hone their skills online let them. They aren't hurting ya. You don't have to check this part of the forum. And I know you are just trying to help, but I believe you happen to be wrong. Online sarging can help in certain areas (especially refinement). But for others (bodylanguage) you gotta go out.

Hope that wasn't too much of a repititious rant,
EvoJ

What i am saying is for the newbies i ve seen many of them staying at home and sarging online without playing the game in the field for months and when i ask why they say "this is a good starting point" but the truth is that they dont have inner game and they are too scared. The results are:
1) They dont get layed (even though they think that they are on their way to becoming a pua)
2)They lose their faith in the game
3)They quit