By the way , we act as if our posts told opposite things but , Pushkidman Sinn, and myself , are I think , telling complementary things , we can associate our way of thinking, we are telling true things. That's my opinion

I disagree that good looks is not important for survival.
Like I said - people with good looks get treated better and pre-selected with a better rate by default and that is important for S&R.

But like I said - there are advantages everywhere.
If I were a hunky looking fellow, I would have never bothered to develope my social skills and sense of humor (it helps me to get along with people everywhere, at work, on a party, etc). If I was spoiled by picture perfect good looks, I would not have spent so much time on studying, which eventually paid off in me getting well-paid jobs. You have to find something positive in evey disadvantage you have.

I'm not saying that looks don't matter of that looks matter , I'm saying , that , you don't have to be dependant of it , and to think too much about it , I agree with you, and , I think you cannot disagree with what I said.

someone else on this forum said "girls are willing to overlook a bad characteristic as long as they enjoy the whole package"
and yes, girls think that brad pitt is the sexiest man in the universe, but that doesn't mean she can't fall in love with the average looking guy next door. as long as he has gamed her right, the girl will still fall in love with him even though he isn't the sexiest guy in the universe.

and i have seen TONS of average, even ugly, guys with pretty chicks. even though some only talk to "the brad pitts of the world" most girls will not turn you down solely based on looks. if you think so then your inner game and ego are way out of shape

Ahhh enough with the comas they're confusing me >_>

And I agree with you Sorin I've seen a lot of ugly ass dudes with hot chicks.

I think the hot chicks w/ low self esteem are like that tho.

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Some food for the thought.

Today, while at Starbucks sipping on my drink, I saw a drop dead gorgeous HB10 model come walking in. I am telling you she looks like the runway models of Victoria Secret. She had every person turning their head, men and women.

She sits down after getting her drink. I am still mesmerized by her, now thinking of how I should approach her. In comes a guy. He was maybe 5 ft 5 inches. (I am not hating just describing in detail) He was a really nerdy looking asian.He had glasses, squinty eyes, very feminine body build, and bad facial features. He would be the total opposite of a male model you would see posing for Armani.

When that guy came in, the HB10 got up and had sparkles or happiness in her eyes. She ran over and gave a kiss to him and a big hug.

Moral of the event is... well if you don't get it after reading the story, you are just lost my friend.

@chen, then you find out it was her nephew. hurrrrrrr



'neway, Girls want to be the hottest one in a relationship(ooooh, shallow, i know) aslong as you look socially acceptable (not like you've been living under a rock for the past 2 decades) then you have no problem at all concerning looks.

I don't really think its a question of being good looking or not. To women,

Tall = Goodlooking

So next time you think some nerdy guy/PUA or otherwise seems to still be able to get the girls ask yourself one question. Is he tall. Lol, he could have the head of a Goat with horns and anything provided that he's tall it won't matter.

The fat dude can also have a lot of money or the girl can be an escort.

So you are telling me is that with me being 6'6" tall I should have flocks of girls around me then? But yet every time I go out I see no flock of girls around me? Hell I don't even get a single girl following me. Yes height CAN be attractive, but its not what you make it out to be.

I'm 5"6 and I mostly dated girls that were taller than me. And they weren't close to ugly.

Height=irrelevant.

height is as relevant as looks, can help but its by no way a deal breaker

it also deppends to the height of the girl

1.90m can be very attractive to a 1.70m girl, but not so much to a 1.50m one

1.70m its ok to a 1.65 girl, less attractive to a 1.75m

but NOT deal breaker

If you put yourself on an online dating site the only thing women are going to look at is your looks. That is pretty obvious. How is having a checklist of your personality next to your picture going to add value to you ? It gets even worse if you say you are a sweet and honest guy with a degree in engineering. You cannot attract a woman by giving her a list that tells them what your personality is. So when you go out you have a list of all your personality traits written down and when you see a hot girl you pass her the list ? You think that list is going to attract them ? Of course they will not get attracted by that. The same applies to online dating. The only thing that matters online is the picture and of course they are going to want to have raw sex with a guy with a hot picture.

The game was never designed for online dating. The game talks about kino. How the hell can you kino if you are meeting women online ? The game is about indirectly sneeking into a group of women and starting a sneeky opener to get accepted by the group. Online you can't do this indirect thing of opening. If they don't like your face they don't respond. In real life they can't just ignore you. You are there and they will listen to you in most of the cases, even if they don't like your face. This allows you to tease them, be cocky and funny, DHV and all these kind of stuff; so basically attract them.

In engineering you can find formulas that work in specific cases. If formula 1 works in case A, than why the hell would you say that formula 1 is useless because it doesn't work in case B ? Of course it doesn't work in case B, it was designed for case A.
And why is that ? Because London has a lack of hot girls ? Because if there are a lot of hot girls I just don't believe you when you say that they only kiss handsome men. The hottest girl of my city was actually dating with the ugliest nerd I have ever witnessed in my life. So stop spreading this BS.

Nobody says looks are not important. They are. If you are goodlooking gaming is much easier than if you are extremely ugly. I also believe that if you are extremely but really extremely ugly, gaming will be very hard for you. But a normal looking guy with game is gonna attract more women than a gourgous guy with no game.

we could have summed up the 9 pages of this thread into the statement above

No, some girls are amazingly hot with low self esteems...

I'm talking about girls my age (17-18)

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