Alright, this girl has a BF who obviously has some game. But I feel like my game is better. He broke up with her like two weeks ago, but then came back to her. So they're together but its a rocky relationship. I know the girl very well and when they broke up she came to me. We messed around a little bit but I was late and they got back together. She comes over to my house all the time, but I can't seem to get past making out. She even told me she wants to have sex with me, but she can't feel like a slut, and she'll feel like a slut if she's cheating on her boyfriend.

Well, she's a realistic girl so she's not going to break up with her boyfriend when i'm about to leave for three years. But I still want to have sex with her. I've tried setting up a frame where we are dating for the night, and I almost got it but she backed out at the last second.

How can I make her feel comfortable with cheating?

She is already ready to cheat, you just need to press her right buttons. Making out is cheating remember that. Do YOU really think that SHE really thinks all you want to do is make out?

Be the guy who makes decisions. Instead of going AFC "uuuuh do you wanna sleep with me?", get her back to your house. Create comfort and sexual tension. Do some push - pull, get her really into you. When you start making out, just GO FOR IT. No questiosn asked. Let it just coincidentally "happen".

If she stops you, make it her fault, and do a freeze out. Act like nothings wrong, but heres the key, let her come to realize by herself that she screwed things up. That will make her want to end the uncomfortable SPAM, and youll get her.

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k, i just gotta go for it then. i'm about to go to her house. we'll see how this goes.

Sounds great man! Post here and let us know how it went!

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To expand on this, bring up that making out is cheating and she's come this long in the cheating process that it shouldn't be much more an issue if she winds up fucking you

well boys, I got her LMR down. I went to her house yesterday not with the intention of having sex with her, but for her to want to. I get her pants off and she asked me if I had a condom, I said "no, I didn't think we were going to have sex" ...she said i'm right, and she would be turned off if I had one ready to go....But she's coming over today and she knows I always have condoms in my nightstand drawer.

...only thing is...now i've got another hurdle in this saga....


I am kind of friends with her boyfriend, and last night he was bragging that he had sex with another girl like a week ago, so he already cheated on her. Should I tell her and deal with the whirlwind of emotion that will come and then try to have sex before I leave in 2 days? or should I just have sex with her and not tell her? or should I have sex with her and then tell her?

Why didnt you mention that until now? No wait..

Why are you even asking us about this? This is just a question of ethics and morals and has nothing to do with pickup. Im kind of surprised you would even ask us about this.

Personally, just the thought of having sex with the girlfriend of a friend of mine disgusts me and is against everything i stand for.

But what you said above:
Proves that you have no problem stabbing your friend in the back. So id say, go for it if you have no problem but keep in mind you will lose your friend and he might even kick your ass.

I would.

But remember, whatever you tell the girl doesnt really fucking matter. She cheated on her boyfriend with you. He cheated on her with someone else.

Youve already been messing around with her, which is cheating, so while youre there why dont you just make the whole thing complete by sleeping with her, its not going to change anything.

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No, no . . . you do this and it's game over. She already told you her desires and she already told you her fears. There's no reason to bring up her "fears" and smear it on her face.

Freezing her out and withholding what she desires momentarily is a far better option. Do you think she wants to make out or play checkers? Well, if she wants to make out, she better also drop her panties. It's as simple as that. She doesn't get to pick and choose what she eats at your restaurant. It's a package deal.

In terms of "cheating" . . . there's no such thing. Her relationship between her and her boyfriend is a personal relationship between her and her boyfriend. Whatever they do or don't do is their issue. Your relationship between you and her is between you and her.

well, like i said, i'm only kind of friends with him. I mean, he's cool and everything, but I've only known him for like a week. He just started hanging out with my group of friends.

I talked to mine (and his) friends last night about it, and they said "fuck her please, he needs to get over her" ...so i think i'm still going to.

I like the way you think...with the package deal, thats the way i think too.

I would also like to add that I do try my best to not bring up problems. I believe I learned that one from SINN, he said "if it doesn't help you, ignore it" meaning don't bring up topics that aren't going to help you get laid.

gawd damn it.

so...after she begged for me to give it to her yesterday, I got her to my house today.

After a little fluff and such she wants a massage. I tell her she owes me one first. She gives me one, I give her one, and by then end of hers we are making out on my bed.

I can tell she's getting turned on. She's grinding, arching her back. SO....I go to take off her shirt and....LMR. I was thinking to myself "fuck this I don't even care anymore"

I do a freeze out, but she just cuddled up next to me and started crying. WTF!!!!


She says she is crying becasue i'm leaving to go to college in two days and she can't bear life with out me. She wants to be with me and have sex with me but she can't. So, i'm like "why are you even with XXXXXXX, he cheated on you and you know it" (I talked to one of her best friends last night, and she told me that this girl knew...boy if I only knew what was about to happen)

she got silent and looked at me like WTF? and started texting her friend. She broke down crying because I guess her friend was lying to me so I wouldn't tell her or something. Anyways, she is basically an emotional wreck and I only have one more day to close the deal. I don't think its gong to happen now because she's so emotional, but fuck it, i'm going to a fair with another girl tomorrow.

You just couldn't resist to SMEAR HER FEAR in her face could you? . . .

All you needed to do was to comfort her for 20 more seconds and instead, you allowed the "dark side of the force" get the better of you. Lesson learned. You're going off to school where you will surely find yourself in similar situations. She even TOLD YOU that she wanted to fuck you and you basically cock blocked yourself. YOU are the MAN. . . don't forget it. Take charge!

*FACEPALM* and alas, I come to this little thing slightly late, sorry, I guess I should start reading faster or something. Kasabi has sound advice, and for some reason I'm a natural at gaming chicks who are "taken." Sorry, my bad. But yeah, stop worrying about her, you're past the point of no return, there is no getting it now. Better luck next time.

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I don't think that was smearing her fear, I froze out and stuff, by the time I said this, I was just thinking about how I actually do care that I leave people better and really, this girl deserves better than this guy. Plus, she broke up with him right when she left my house and I might get it tomorrow.

(no I don't have one-itis. I k-closed an HB9+ at a party tonight and got her number...fuck I forgot to use my phone number routine on her. I then set up a date with the girl that introduced me to her)