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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:06 pm 
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Ive been studying pua and know it, but I never have that frame of mind when Im in public. Its like my mind goes blank, and I try looking for girls to just make that "eye contact" with first and see what happens. They either look away and keep walking, but a few actually seem to look interested and will stop walking to look at something RIGHT AFTER the eye conact happens. Is that a sign to approach? I had one occasion last night where I passed the same girl in a couple aisles at the store, and we finally made the eye conctact, but she didnt smile or anything really, but she stopped next to me to look at the shelf while I stood there. Whenever I feel like they arent interested, i freeze more and do nothing...and walk away. Then later or the next day (right now) I kick myself in the ass for not doing anything. Is this normal?

But now thinking about this makes me motivated to go back out tonight and just practice.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:43 pm 
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You seem to have AA and only way to get rid of that AA is to approach.

if ure struggling for openers here are some basic crappy ones :what ur getting there? shud I get this or this? or dont get that because (whatever THAT is make some stupid funnt story about it)eg. i heard on braniac/my m8 told me they put crack in it.(crude i know) than use ure witt to tease her about what shes getting/saying.

these are pretty shit and some of the experts no daubt will come up with some amazing ones hope it helps for now.

i was buying bananas and this hb comes up next to me

me: look sideways, "pff my banans are way better than yours"- cheeky smile #close after a 5 minute chat.

hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:03 pm 
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LOL, I like the banana one! Thanks for the reply btw. I mean is it needy or dumb of my to just go to random stores for that purpose? Id be driving and say "oh well lets stop here and see whos shopping..see what happens"

Yea ill admit I have AA. I actually thought I was over the fear being out with buddies and scoping girls. It just seems harder when I am alone, especially when i see a group of 3 flirty-looking girls, and I keep walking after looking one in the eye. I just freeze too damn much! Then Ill leave the store feeling all sad and it fucks up my day/night. I came to the conculsion that giving up and coming home is NOT the answer, cause i then sit around dwelling over it. Thats why Im chillin for a bit then going back out tonight for a while. I want to do this!!!!! Just hard...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:10 pm 
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No it isisnt random, dont think of it as wierd that will send u into a bad frame and u willl get cold feet by the time u want to approach. it is totally normal for a dude to go out and try and pick up chicks, i mean why not? think of it as a training site and those are ur crash dummies.

I would say if u get good ec dont drop ur gaze/look away make her do it first if she keep on staring u can always walk up and open: do u check out/perv on every guy who walks by? (my openers are very crap i usully just open spontaniously) not in a threatining voice, remember to smile.

go into the openers thread if ur struggling there should be a good few ideas there

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Being honest some of your openers aren't that bad and in fact I may even steal one or two of them! :wink:

The perving one is good.

Also if she gives you a somewhat prolonged look, smile. She will react in two ways:

1. Look away.
2. Smile back, but it will be reflective. The shyer your smile, the shyer hers will be, the more confident it is, often hers will also reflect it (bear in mind some girls are shy btw so this isn't a guarantee, but she may still give you a shy smile)

Oh and btw her lingering, it could be a sign of her wanting you to talk to her but really I wouldn't worry whether it is or isn't. If you keep seeing her, here's one I tried and got an e-mail for (after a conversation): "Are you following me? 'Cause the last thing I need right now is another stalker!"

(it turned out she was on the same course as me at my uni. Haha. We saw eachother around a bit after that but all we did was say Hi and have brief chats. We weren't really that bothered with eachother in the long run)


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like the following one. i sometime: use ure stalking me :D?

by the way dude i cant send pms for some reason. I posted in the tech section but havent had any feedback yet. It comes up with an error to do with name resolution thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:30 am 
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want to get rid of AA?

go into public 3 times a week, walk up to 5 women and tell them you have a REALLY small penis. there reaction will be either to laugh, or you'll get an awkward uuuhhhh and they'll be lost for words. what ever their reaction...say...im also a pathological liar. smile, and walk off.

i promise you now with a few days you will not give a F*CK what girls think of you...and thats what AA is all about. plus, you'll be surprised at how many of these girls you get laughing and number close. its not what you say its how you say it. but the point of this exercise is to get used to being out of your comfort zone. remeber, alpha males and leaders do not look for approval, because they KNOW they are the sh*t.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:47 pm 
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i have AA alot, like i dont approach much and recently ive just had those nights where i wasnt in the mood, however im working on fixing it. on a recent night out i was not in a game mood at all, however i actualy forced myself to approach

HB7, single set, situational opener about n old man (70+) dancnin with a load of gals on the dancefloor (they wer jst avin a laugh and found him entertaining) we got alkin and within 2 mins she was actualy bendin over makin me grab her ass cuz she was telling me it was her best asset. big mistake i made, (stiking point) didnt escalate and she ejected to join some friends.

no closes or anything, but after that 1 approach i had a kind of rush, ya no when ya inner game just snaps right in and you feel great. i anchored that to approaching, and now, if i have AA, if i approach ill have that same rush even if the interaction goes badly, im not sayin its fixed me completly, however it helped alot :)


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The Gods of PU won't be giving you a "green light" to approach girls in this lifetime. You're looking for "signs". . . and I'll admit that after you've done this for a while, you will recognize it when YOU KNOW girls are thinking, "Oh My God . . . I wish that guy would come talk to me . . . "

Until then, just go and talk to them. Opening them with "Ehm . . durh . . .uh. . . Hi . . . Uhm . . . I was just walking here and wait, no, I was actually, strolling along and I thought I saw . . .now .. .wait . . .durh. . . ehm. . . So name is ______." IS FAR BETTER than sitting at home and thinking up clever openers and not using them.


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"Ehm . . durh . . .uh. . . Hi . . . Uhm . . . I was just walking here and wait, no, I was actually, strolling along and I thought I saw . . .now .. .wait . . .durh. . . ehm. . . So name is ______." IS FAR BETTER than sitting at home and thinking up clever openers and not using them.
Yup. I think Wayne Gretzy said it best " You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." Another of his gems : " Procrastination is one of the most common and deadliest of diseases and its toll on success and happiness is heavy."


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:27 pm 
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Going to mall tonight. I know your not supposed to, but I keep playing routines in my head if i see a single set/2 set (non moving). Is it sometimes best to make the eye contact walking by with a cool "whats up...." and slightly walking ahead and sitting down to observe? If they look back or show ioi, appraoch?

Or stop and open asap?


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