My post is not short guys but it’s important to put Billie’s life-denying negativity away.

Interesting Billie, but you don't even bother to give everyone an explanation as to what the concept of pickup is. You're too quick to judge babe but slow on the uptake as to what your talking about. You say pickup is "lame" without backing it up.

If you mean that using canned openers is lame, then tell us why? You imply it's not a social thing to do because it's essentially the same as reading a manual. Wrong sweet cheeks (although I doubt your cheeks are so sweet!). Delivering a canned opener is a social act, regardless of its origin. We are social actors after all. So, I can only presume you have a problem with the rehearsed nature of the canned opener (which is only one aspect of pick up by the way), so lets deal with that one shall we hun. I promise I'll take it slow and smooth, just the way you like it!

What you have failed to address is the aspect of intention. The guys who you say have simply "got it" will say and do certain things in order to get laid anyway. The same applies to guys who haven't and wish to address that. Social manipulation is everywhere and it's loaded with intent. This is kind of linked to previous posts, which have alluded to the fact that many guys who learn pick up to circumvent their extreme shyness, for example, have a lot of love and happiness to offer a girl. A guy who you say has "got it" may not have any happiness to offer. It depends on the person, not the theory of picking up women. It's common-sense Billie. Your anger is mis-directed.

You and me socially manipulate everyday. We change our intentions and its verbal manifestations to suit our own personal needs. Whether someone is running game or not, we construct the world around us, consciously and sub-consciously, with language in order to suit our own needs and circumstances. We don't like to admit that because our culture teaches us the value of free will and of being independent. The trouble is our culture doesn't practice what it preaches. Pickup is a branch of social interaction that holds the mirror up to all of us and forces us to admit that we all just actors on the same stage.

A large part of social life is about how much power and control we hold as individuals. Pick up places a lot of power and control into the hands of men and as a consequence you, Billie, as a woman feel powerless. The tyranny of feminism has fucked many guys over because it deprived them of power in a uniquely punishing way. Many guys are taught, from an early age, to tip-toe around women. They buy women gifts to fulfil that part of a women’s brain which controls their shallow sense of materialism. If they don’t, they’re not rewarded sexually. On the other hand, many guys ingratiate themselves with women, or one particular women, because they have been forced to accept whatever came their way. As Mystery said, many guys father’s never possessed pick up skills, and so future generations have had to fend themselves in a punishing feminist climate. The guys who deviated from this (Mystery, Style, Mason) are attacked by feminists or angry women who don’t get attention (which one are you Billie?) because, as Zack de la Rocha sang, they “take the power back”.

At the end of the day, I don’t think too much about the politics. But the life-denying arguments need to be put away.

Fuck you Billie, pick up is too dynamic and elusive for women to catch on to. It’s here to stay.

You lose.

Avesta

Billie Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:39 pm

just so you guys know, im a chick, and i watch this show. women are on to you. and women think this whole concept is lame. women also think that mystery and his wingmen are ugly tryhard fags.

good luck to any of you men who use the canned openers etc. in most cases, chicks will just look at you oddly, laugh uncomfortably and walk away shaking their heads thinking that you're weird, even if they dont know that you're using someone else's material. if you've got it, you've got it. if you don't, you don't. you learn it by being social, not by reading/watching a manual. if you wanna PU, practice by yourself and dont try so hard to follow this loser's instructions and guide.

also, i am not in america. this show is going global, women all over the world understand this 'game' and believe me, you guys are getting played right back. enjoy and good luck to you all.