There's a big difference between being needy and expressing genuine, ego-less desire. The main difference is that being needy turns women off while expressing genuine desire free of ego turns women on.

The feeling of neediness stems from a void you feel in your spectrum of emotions. This void may be the result of anything ranging from previous rejections to childhood traumas. The scars you have from past experiences prompt your psyche into creating an EGO (in the Eckhart Tolle sense of the word, not Freud) in order to maintain a semblance of sanity. This ego, however, makes you NEEDY, which really sucks ass.

On the flip side, expressing genuine desire from an ego-less standpoint is much like expressing your liking for a certain flavor of ice cream simply because you like it. You don't feel any need to taste the ice cream in order to fill some sort of void within your hurting heart or any gay shit like that; you just want the ice cream because you fucking like it.

Stop looking for women to fill that hole in your heart. Women are ice cream cones. Don't be needy, but be as wanty as much as you can because women get turned on when they know that they are desired.

Chief, some girls in clubs get very loud and they throw themsleves all over the place while dancing. They try to attract attention. Does this behavior stem from being needy or just that they are confident and dont give a damn!!

In many instances, they are being needy. However, there are plenty of girls who do this just to have fun from a non-needy place. With enough skill and experience you will be able to make the distinction between girls who do it for attention and those who do it for fun. The ones who do it for fun are more attractive, not considering looks.

I completely agree. And this is definitely true in relationships. You must remind the girl that you desire her; don't let her forget it. I think when women don't feel desired, they are unsatisfied in the relationship and that makes them seek out someone who will make them feel desired. They may or may not do anything with that other guy that makes them feel desired, but you do you really want to take the chance?

When you are starting off in a new relation. do you want to show her that you desire her. Shoud you say things like 'I lOve you' every once in a while ?

Where should you draw the line.

You should be honest about what you feel. If you genuinely LOVE a girl in a new relationship, you probably have some serious problems. For me, I'd probably think she is fucking hot. So, I'll say something like "God you are FUCKING hot," whenever I feel like saying it.

'God you are Fucking Hot' doesnt that sound like a pervert if you just say that to a girl on your second date ...

Why cant you feel love for a girl at the early stages. She might just be incredible and you start falling in love with her, what is wrong in that Chief?

So? You need to freely express your sexuality in some form or another in order to let the girl feel free to express her own sexuality around you. The only problem you'll run into is her Anti Slut Defense, in which case you just have to use techniques to lower that ASD (i.e. comfort and objection game).
More than 99% of the time, guys who think this way fall into that needy ego category I was talking about in my original post. In very rare instances, stuff like true love at first sight might indeed be possible, but women know that they must be wary of guys who think like this.

Guys who easily fall in "love" very quickly are more often than not deluded by scarcity mentality, which is directly related to this whole ego and neediness problem. Also, guys with ego problems like this will convince themselves that they fall into that 1% and that they are some sort of "special snowflake." Don't let your ego blind you into attaching more meaning to a situation than there actually is. It will slow your development in pickup down tremendously.

Yeah "desire" doesn't have to mean LOVE. It can even be something carnal. But at the end of the day everyone likes the reassurance that they are wanted...women admire the physical aspects of things as well as emotional. With physical, you don't always have to say it, you can show her that you want her. But there needs to be a balance between emotional and physical desire.

Doesnt expressing physical desire early on in the relation scare the girl away?

It is said that after a one night stand the girl normally doesnt feel great about herself. or is hesitant to pick up your calls. Why is that. Because all that you are doing is showing her that she is desired

PUAHitch,
I don't think you're understanding the distinction between neediness and desire, which was the entire point of this thread...

Neediness scares the girl away. The type of genuine desire that I am talking about turns her on. Neediness can seem like the same thing as desire to some people, which may be the impression you have right now, but they are different things.

Desire;
1. to wish or long for; crave; want.
2. to express a wish to obtain; ask for; request
Needy;
1. demanding or needing attention, affection, or reassurance to an excessive degree


Desire - You want her
Needy - You want her attention