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Thanks for all the compliments guys, I apologize for my absence, ive taken some strides in my own game to get better, much less ive spent less time on the dancefloor also... and I think that we all need to be better well-rounded PUAs and not just focus on one specific area unless its a problem for you!

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thanks juice24 for all you've done for the forum, you have really helped me a lot i really enjoy your posts!!

but to add, i go clubbing regularly and i've noticed that once you're on the dance floor dancing with a girl, other girls will notice and become much less reluctant to dancing with you. i like to move around and dance with a lot of girls and it becomes easier with each one i dance with
To answer you question bro, Not to brag bro but this doesnt happen to me not at all... Girls should be more receptive actually, depends on how your vibing... are you smiling? Having a good time, are the girls your with having a good time? (Preselection is key to good dancefloor game) Next time you go out pay attention to how your dancing with the girls and your body language from moving from set to set and let me know what happens... otherwise hit me up on msn..

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Hey Juice. I appreciate all the time your putting into this thread and your advice has been solid gold. I read the first 6 pages of this thread and this didn't come up but if it came up later my bad.


How do you combat when two girls are dancing face to face and only looking to each others eyes? You see them everywhere and you know they are only doing it for attention as they never seem to be having fun. I've tried numerous things such as grabbing one of their hands and doing a cheesy ballroom spin but it never seems to work. I noticed you said tap their shoulder a few times but this seems kinda random if their not giving anyone EC and just doing their own thing.
The key is congruence, remember that females are very observant man. I tap on the shoulder because its congruent with my personality, in order for it to be apart of yours you have to practice it abit til your comfortable with doing it. When two girls are dancing with each other you can do one of two things.. and something I like to do now, like i said is my "Butt bump" Or I just dance to the side of them until one looks over and smiles and I can see it from the side of my head...Remember girls will move somewhere else if they dont like you. The ballroom spin works when your making greetings or engaging another girl to dance.. but like I said to Gem the key to good dancefloor game is energy, congruence and please smile for petesake!

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Thought I'll throw in my 2 cents. Sprinkler is a good move(I know this has been mentioned). What's even better is "Raise the roof". I do it in a way where i dont look that excited when doing the Raise the roof. I get a bunch of girls laughing and joining me with Raising the Roof. Then I take it from there. Also if your with friends bust out the "Double Dutch"(You know the jump robe game). That gets a lot of attention and girls just wanna be with people who are the life of the party.

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Great interesting thread and thanks to Juice and everyone else for their advice.

I guess most people posting on this thread have had some success at some point on the dance floor :)

I am a naturally good dancer, i can't remember ever dancing on the dancefloor and not getting IOIs from at least some girls. On a good night these IOIs are everywhere !

I am not shy about hitting the dancefloor and love that time when it is full of girls and most guys aren't liquored up enough to get on there.

The thing is, i really do enjoying dancing for the sake of dancing, not just for meeting girls. Often i get into a state where i am having such fun dancing i cant be bothered with girls and it is these times when i seem to get the most interest from girls on the dancefloor. They can see which guys are there for a good time and which ones are there to leech onto every girl they see.

Now my problem like many is turning interest into results. I am a nice guy at heart and don't feel comfortable grinding with a girl i dont know in plain view of everyone even if she's up for it. I have girls pinching my ass on the dancefloor, backing right into me and i just freeze !


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Desmond, Im curious to ask why dont you dance with girls

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very good post juice i picked out alot of pointers from here to use in calabrating my DF game. I just never realized on it. I do the booty bump alot and it works and transition to.

One story i got was when i was visiting australia recently. I was on the dance floor with my friends just having fun and i see this 2 set a hb8 and HB7. I found my way near them and Hip checks them. when they turned around i said

me-" hey, this is my dance area *smiles* she laughs and hip checks me
i go in and said to her

me-"You're pretty good at this"

HB8-" good at what"

me-" well obviously not dancing, but good luck thought *smiles*"

i kinda step a few feet away and she comes back to me going

hb8-" you got me curious why you say good luck"

well to make this short i go on telling her about how she good at fending off guys on the dance floor and stuff and i was like

me-" see those guys at your 9'oclock i bet you they are gonna approch you"

hb8-" really?" me-" just watch" i back off and sure enough here comes those guys trying to grind all on her. she backs up from them and sandwhich herself and her friend between me and my friend and she goes

HB8-" oh your good at this"

me-" I know" ends up she asked for my name and intro herself and her friend to me dance some more then a fight broke out which totally killed the mood and my friend wanted to smoke( currently teaching him this whole PUA thing)


my question is If theres a group of like 6+ girls how do you open them up by yourself? Should me and my wing try to split them up into smaller groups or just take them on as a whole group. I tried just going in the middle of the dance circle and dancing and get a good responds from some but theres that 1 or 2 that wants to move the circle. how can i do damage control on this? Lend me your wisdom Juice!

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my question is If theres a group of like 6+ girls how do you open them up by yourself? Should me and my wing try to split them up into smaller groups or just take them on as a whole group. I tried just going in the middle of the dance circle and dancing and get a good responds from some but theres that 1 or 2 that wants to move the circle. how can i do damage control on this? Lend me your wisdom Juice!
Ive done that before and here's my take on it, dont care about how they respond, they are either going to respond good or bad, 6+ set on the dancefloor... At first when I did this, I got a pretty nasty response, and they moved the circle. Then I sat back and chilled and watched, usually girls want to dance with theyre friends and with that many in a loud club you will only be able to address the ones nearest you...

So, I hipped checked one, or the fatty, Id go for the ugliest girl in the group...or the most moderate attractive one. Hip check her, dance with her... and make sure she is facing her friends... because she is gonna girl code them for approval.. you cant tell because the others will look at her face. Go for compliance, usually with the hands, then id spin her and make sure I end up in the middle of the circle. Then Id break off and do my thing in the middle, and then have the girls ready to dance... takes a lot of work though... sure you ready for that bro lol

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thanks for the tip juice, I'm gonna be using what tips and stuff here soon.. in like 10 hours to be exact :lol: i'll make a full field report on my findings. then agian i'm Gonna be in Singapore, lets hope that doesnt effect my testing and lets hope there no more then groups of 4

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A good opener, field tested on a HB9 and led to some good conversation, but didnt push my luck as im just starting out...

me: "Hey, why do you look so grumpy, did you forget your air guitar?!"

*start air guitaring*

pbviously requires a good song and a good SPAM, but you get the drift.

her reaction was to laugh hysterically for about 5/10 seconds until joining in, at which point I turned to her friends and said something like "join in!" and "come on", to show i wasnt hitting on her.
Just a small tweak - after you air guitar for a couple seconds, pretend to remove the guitar and hand it to her. This is almost guaranteed to get her involved.

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If I see a girl I like who is giving me strong eye contact and is smiling at me, I usually just go right in for the kiss there and then, it works about 95% of the time.

If she ain't looking at me, I usually reverse grind on her with my ass (you know as if I'm the girl and shes dry humping me haha) overemphasize this as much as you can! I learned this of one of my buddies and it works a treat! they always laugh man always!

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Juice24,

Please tell me you're still answering questions in here! I've learned quite a bit just reading through all these posts...

How quickly do you usually go from one set to the other? I mean, when youre done dancing with a girl, whether you kiss close or whatever, do you just let them go and find your next target immediately? Or do you usually get off the DF and try to get into a 1 on 1 convo with them?

Also, what do you do with two girls who are dancing with each other but no dudes are around? Do you just sort of insert yourself in the middle of them? Do you try to make EC with one or both of them first and tap on one of their shoulders? I see this a lot at the clubs I go to where the girls will be alll over each other, its almost hard to get their attention. What should I do there?

I thing I just have a lot of AA still. I'm a learning AFC. But I know I'm not a half bad looking guy, and I feel like even though I can't dance like MJ, I can feel the rythm of the music pretty easily. I'm going to go the clubs this weekend and gonna see what happens when I just let go of my inhibitions and go for it.

Thanks already for all your advice[/i]


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GUYS!

if you haven't tried the HIROSHIMA OPENER, you missed half of your life. I just learned about it recently and works like a charm! I definitely guarantee it.

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learn how to do a hand stand. next time the conditions are right for break dancing, do a hand stand. afterwards, i always get compliments and questions from both guys and girls.

ps: i cant do any other breakdancing moves and am not a good regular dancer either but this is a great peacocking strategy, bc everyone notices the upsidedown guy


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Im johnny and i actually work at the club as a big club promoter i have no confidence what so ever and i am oblivious to any girls signal or there trying to talk to me.

I guess you can say im a peacock cause im into fashion with hair and clothing and i am a dancer and pull off flashy moves that will catch most of the club atttention cuase my friends say i dance exactly like justin timberlake and chris brown.

So heres the funny part i have no confidence cause of my anxiety problems but everyone says i give off a image i have soo much confidence that the girls scared to talk to me.

Due to the fact CLUB PROMOTERS have a tainted name as players or get anygirls.

So at the moment i keep the image as in confidant dancing club promoter what next?


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Twirl her, and dipping her are also flipping the attraction switch because not a lot of dudes are dipping.
I have this basic swing dance routine where you can easily lead and includes both twirling and dipping.

Its a modified version of the link below, with more movement, but simpler movement involved, its my own modification and it works charms for me!
(well the link has been removed since I am new to the forum and cannot post links yet, but just youtube 'basic swing dance')



If anyone is interested in trying this I would suggest getting a friends and messing around to try and modify it to your own specs so you can feel more comfortable when leading the girl


I have used this 10+ times, and have never had bad results. The girls always smile and laugh allowing us to enjoy a good time while building rapport with her.


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What do you do when the girls don't really go along with it?
I was trying the hip check on a girl that was in a group of 5 girls. She looked at me like wth was I doing, girl coded her friends. At which point I extended my hand to another girl in the group and she just waved at me. I left at that point trying to keep my esteem intact.

I didn't try the simple tap on the shoulder, I'll try that next week.
And I think what I have to do is just keep dancing and look like I'm the one having the most fun at the party. But my concern is that if I'm flailing around without girls near me, wouldn't that lower value even more?
I know if I'm genuinely having fun everything else will fall into place, so that's what I tried for the rest of the night.
I think another possible solution would have been to open girls off the dancefloor and suggest we should dance, lead her there, and boom I'm in.

I've also been practicing the moves in this dvd http://www.amazon.com/Nightclub-Dance-H ... B000NE6LB0 it seems legit, but hard to implement at a real dance party until it becomes second nature to me.

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