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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:05 pm 
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I was just watching dragons den on bbc 2 and for the advert for next week i saw gambler on it!!

Does anybody know anything about this and what is gambler pitching and does he get the deal?

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Saw Gambler & Kezia doing the pitch. Would imagine it's for PUA Training to help expand the business.

Looks very interesting though. Wondering if Rich will be charming Debra? :D

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Ha Ha
I just saw that and came straight here to post about it, but i guess you beat me to it.
I guess Gambler and Kezia are representing PUATraining on Dragons Den next week.
Should be fun to watch.
They must have gotten some offers.


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Yeh i saw that as well, not sure what hes asked for or if he gets the deal or anything.

But does anyone think tho that by publising the pua community to much it is actually a bad thing....if everyone knows about it, then wheres the advantage???

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Yeh i saw that as well, not sure what hes asked for or if he gets the deal or anything.

But does anyone think tho that by publising the pua community to much it is actually a bad thing....if everyone knows about it, then wheres the advantage???
Thier was never an "advantage".

This ISN'T a secret society.


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Thier was never an "advantage".
PUA is like a cult investment strategy - it only works so long a minority of people put it into practice so, yes, I believe that if PUA goes too mainstream it could kill itself off. In fact it would probably die as a viable commercial enterprise for those making a living from teaching it before it died as a useful thing for individuals to do.

Thing is that HB8/9/10 represent a tiny proportion of the population and what happens to the PUA movement when all these girls can spot someone sarging a mile off ?.

Its kind of scary to think of possible social implications of PUA becoming too well known - HB's will develop new ways of filtering men, maybe simply refusing to talk to men in public until they've seen a resume and bank statement ? :-).


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Thier was never an "advantage".
PUA is like a cult investment strategy - it only works so long a minority of people put it into practice so, yes, I believe that if PUA goes too mainstream it could kill itself off. In fact it would probably die as a viable commercial enterprise for those making a living from teaching it before it died as a useful thing for individuals to do.

Thing is that HB8/9/10 represent a tiny proportion of the population and what happens to the PUA movement when all these girls can spot someone sarging a mile off ?.

Its kind of scary to think of possible social implications of PUA becoming too well known - HB's will develop new ways of filtering men, maybe simply refusing to talk to men in public until they've seen a resume and bank statement ? :-).

You are seriously overthinking this.


Even if that's what happends girls will only accept chodes again. Simple as that, all other things are against human nature.


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PUA is like a cult investment strategy - it only works so long a minority of people put it into practice so, yes, I believe that if PUA goes too mainstream it could kill itself off. In fact it would probably die as a viable commercial enterprise for those making a living from teaching it before it died as a useful thing for individuals to do.
How many diet plans are out there for people to lose weight? Now how many people actually study those diet plans and utilize them? Surely a decent amount of people have heard of the Atkins diet. Go up to 10 random people and ask them to throughly describe it and then ask if they follow it.

Just because the community may be somewhat mainstream doesn't mean EVERYONE will use it or utilize it. The goal should be to "become a natural" in the sense that you no longer need the canned material... which will be exposed and overused. If you stay original, you will be fine.
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Its kind of scary to think of possible social implications of PUA becoming too well known - HB's will develop new ways of filtering men, maybe simply refusing to talk to men in public until they've seen a resume and bank statement ? :-).
Even if women "develop new ways of filtering", men will just find new ways to not get filtered. I also don't think the "filtering system" will change anytime soon. It's been pretty much the same since prehistoric times. The traits of an Alpha remain more or less the same.


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Thier was never an "advantage".
PUA is like a cult investment strategy - it only works so long a minority of people put it into practice so, yes, I believe that if PUA goes too mainstream it could kill itself off. In fact it would probably die as a viable commercial enterprise for those making a living from teaching it before it died as a useful thing for individuals to do.

Thing is that HB8/9/10 represent a tiny proportion of the population and what happens to the PUA movement when all these girls can spot someone sarging a mile off ?.

Its kind of scary to think of possible social implications of PUA becoming too well known - HB's will develop new ways of filtering men, maybe simply refusing to talk to men in public until they've seen a resume and bank statement ? :-).

Iv'e sarged girls who knew I was involved in the PU scene.

Women LIKE flirting with attractive guys, the fact that you think that they would reject you if they thought you were flirting with them, tells you something about your current inner game.

Even if that was a problem ,it would only be a problem with scripted lines, which don't matter anyway.


WHY O WHY O WHY? Would women not want men to learn how to seduce them better?


WHY O WHY O WHY? Would women not want to be seduced?

WHY O WHY O WHY? Would a woman knowing PU methods mean she will not experience their affect.

PU is a natural thing, it is not contrived.

PU is the study of the natural laws of sexuality romance and attraction. They don't go away becuase people start to learn about them.

FFS people.


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Calm down lads it was just a throwaway comment, and I am just playing devils advocate to some extent.


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i guess it will just mean try harder, because of more competion: survive and addapt ?:P

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Damn dragon's just laughed it off ...

I guess they just don't understand :lol:


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Damn dragon's just laughed it off ...

I guess they just don't understand :lol:
I can't believe it, they didn't even get a full slot on the show. Oh well.
Your right, it seems they didn't really get it, they should have said "basically what we do is like that movie Hitch" or something.


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Damn dragon's just laughed it off ...

I guess they just don't understand :lol:
I can't believe it, they didn't even get a full slot on the show. Oh well.
Your right, it seems they didn't really get it, they should have said "basically what we do is like that movie Hitch" or something.
Aye, I don't think they wanted to take it seriously. It probably isn't something they would want to invest in, even for the reason Duncan said.

Not like Gambler isn't doing well though. Pity they never said what the investment was for. I really wanted to see the full clip of it.


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Revenues for the whole of last year, only £540k.
That's revenues, not bottom line profits.
Sounds like a lot of money but when you consider how many people contribute to PUATraining and bear in mind the costs of making a product like UNG, he's practically running a charity!

I'm now very grateful for what they do - they could make a lot more money if they wanted by defecting to bigger companies or charging more for products but they're more committed to improving peoples' lifestyles.

The Dragons all got rich to get laid more, it didn't work for them. So when a guy comes along and says he can do it without getting rich, it clashes with their beliefs. They were never gonna invest, Gambler probably knew this. Good publicity stunt though, bet the websites getting a few hits right now!

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