Surprisingly I haven't seen any topics on this.

From what I have read *attration* (I should have wrote communication here) is broken down like this...

7 percent of an initial impression is based on what's said.
38 percent is based on style of speech and
55 percent on body language

now I suck at dancing. and believe if I can be more comfortable and skilled at this it will help my game. I want to be able to confidently dance with girls on the dance floor and not be so self confident, one of the best ways I have thought is get some actual lessons on it.

So what I am planning on doing is joining a dance class so I can improve on this. However I am unsure what sort of dancing I should join. What is the best style of dancing for an absolute newbee to learn? and that would fit well for the nightclubs

In my opinion you really don't need that. You need lessons to know you can do it? You're seeking validation like a girl bro. Go out there, grab a girls hand, spin her around, bump your butt against her. grab her belt-loops on her jeans(idk what they're called) and move her around. That's all the dancing you'll have to do.

It kinda pisses me off to see guys thinking they need dancing lessons to get good with girls. Focus on yourself not the external gimmick stuff. Do stuff for you, not for girls(socialize because you are a social creature, not only to talk to girls).

sat@n said it very well. here is a good lesson u can apply a lot in life. often, the most relaxed and adaptable ppl are the ones who get the best results... at everything.

think, if you are trying to do practiced dance steps on the dance floor, it will probably look rehearsed and very apparent. besides, dancing at clubs is not something that gets teached at classes. its very much a go-with-the-flow kind of thing. if u have rhythm dont trip.

also, be urself. if you never liked dancing, dont try to fool urself just to impress others.

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also, i forgot to comment, ur attraction percentages are pure bs.

it is a complete generalization based on no quantifiable truths. pure conjecture.

if i had to guess, i would say attraction starts off very physical. 90% at first. most of attraction at first is based off of looks / appearance / body language. for me, this is definitely true, and i write off a lot of girls who might be really cool bc they dont pass this test (and can never recover).

once this is no longer "new" , attraction shifts to being very mental. this is when you are conversing. this is diff than the last stage, but basically if you are making her laugh, keeping her on her toes, saying interesting things, she will have some mental attraction. shallow ppl let one type of attraction override another, like if im talking to the dumbest bitch ever listening her say bs, but she is hot as fuck so i want to screw her, im being shallow.

last one is emotional, but if you are trying to look for pickups, dont even focus here. this kind of attraction takes the longest time to develop and probably only does if u are in a serious relationship.

so whats my point? yes, body language matters. is it 50% ? who knows, i doubt it. just be aware that it is important to being very well put together, but that only gets you so far, just as being the smoothest talker only gets you so far by itself. there are a lot of aspects to focus on, try being your best and improving anywhere u can. if u think dancing classes are for you and can help you be a better you, go for it... but if you think they will make you "this much" more attractive on this scale of yours, those are bad expectations.

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cool thanks for the feedback guys much appreciated. and I just realised i did infact make a mistake those stats should be for communication NOT attraction. Big difference, sorry for this missinformation.

I guess I just naturally don't have much rhythm, and I'm not a huge fan of 80% of the music that gets played at clubs. was hoping dance classes would give me more rhythm but maybe this is just something that comes naturally for some people?

Also I was thinking that going to dance classes might be a good way to practice PUA on the females there also? maybe a good start for a newbee as they will be more forgiving if I stuff up on something I say, unlike random girls at a bar?

and i've also been wondering, since im just starting out should I focus more on lower HB's like 6-7's as they may be more forgiving when i stuff up? Or is it better to focus on the higher ones because PU is more targeted for them with neg's etc...

its cool no worries.

its possible, i mean, if you have the time and desire, i dont think dancing classes could do you any BAD.

ive never taken such classes, so i dont know what they are about, but any generic setting with a lot of girls and a few guys (i.e. favorable ratio) is probably going to work to your advantage.

as for focusing on less attractive chicks, eh... im conflicted telling you to do this. on one hand, yes, they are probably more forgiving, easy to do stuff with, etc. and it will help your confidence in that way.

but on the other hand, it wont help allay any anxiety you might still have when the identical twin of megan fox / jessica alba / etc. is in your sights.

the ideal situation is that when you have had a ton of experience with the best of the best, the rest of the rest are just smooth sailing. dont limit urself, reach for the stars. if u try and fail, u fail knowing you went for it all - and never let that hurt your confidence.

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I disagree, there are rules even to grinding and I doubt you'll get many girls wanting to grind anyway if you're doing the Carlton Dance because you don't know how to move.
Since when is learning a new skill a bad thing? How is improving yourself, even if you're doing it to get girls, and face it, that's why we're ALL here, a bad thing? Girls like dancing, and if a guy likes dancing improving his skills at it can't be a good thing. Not sure if this applies to Stuck... but telling someone he's acting like a girl because he wants to get better at something is kind of a dick move.

<b>Stuck</b>: Do you enjoy dancing? If so, go ahead and dance. Try different clubs for music, some nights the clubs are playing crap and other nights it's a different style of music. A couple weeks ago I was a club that wasn't really playing any "pop music," just a series of rythms and sounds that made me really feel the dance. I actually got approached by a chick while dancing to that (and subsequently blew it because I have no clue what I'm doing. )

While people are right that you can't do correographed moves on the floor, learning _how_ to move should be helpful and any dance class would probably help with that. You just need to take the knowledge of how to move and mix it up to move with the music. (Really, it's a bit like martial arts... you don't do katas in a fight, but you learn katas because you're training your muscles to move the right way. I'm thinking of doing some salsa lessons soon, if I can get myself passed the embarrassement of trying to dance without the use of alcohol that is!

yeah i'd still be keen to hear if any other forum members have had experience with dance classes and if so what style they would recommend I look into.

I'm keen to give it a couple of nights and see if it's going to be something I'm going to enjoy doing, if i hate it too much then I guess its not for me. But I won't know until I try.

This week I think I'll try opening sets outside the dance floor, maybe while waiting for a beer. that way my dancing skills or lack of them aren't apparent easier to talk with these HB's too im guessing. Got a night out planned this friday so lets see how it goes!

Heya!

Being on the dance floor is all about confidence. As the previous posters said you get loads of results just from having a good time, but you should have one thing in mind.

Girls throw out tests just like when you talk to them, so don't be surprised if they turn around and dance with another guy to get your attention even more. What a lot of people do wrong is to give them that attention and persuade them, instead, what I encourage you to do is to dance yourself over to someone else and go back and re-open the set later on.

This is the best way to get results on the dancefloor. Keep in mind to dance with her. That doesn't mean dancing face to face, but actually holding hands, or some form of body contact. Hope this helps:)

- Exerio