Stole the words out my muthafuckin' mouth.

Dude i used to think just like you but i hard abou PUA stuff and didnt really want to follow it. i want you to try one thing, go out and get a book of "how to be an alpha male" by John Alexander. this book helps, seriously. just the first 2 pages will relate to waht you saying. he doesnt talk about women, insrted he talks about improving yourself so chicks will want you.

"Basically there are two types of products out there:
1. "How to Seduce" guides. These focus on using psychological
methods to captivate a woman's imagination, often using hypnosis,
and in the process lead her to have sex with you.
2. "How to Attract" guides. These focus on displaying attractive
traits to a woman, such as using humor, busting on her, telling
stories, giving snappy answers to her questions, having her see
that you're a popular guy, etc.
Do you notice an underlying similarity between these two methods? Both
focus on the woman. Because of that, there's a huge list of stuff that you must do
in order to get laid. It's burdensome!
So I'm introducing is a much easier system. Instead of focusing on the
woman, "How to Become an Alpha Male" focuses on you."

hope this helps

i felt i was being really harsh yesterday but, the [world/life] isnt fucking fair. if it was you and i and all of us, wouldnt be here, we'd be getting some rest inbetween fucking and checking out which ferrari we wanted to drive the next day. keep shit in mind, if you get pissed or disappointed... go beat ass in a video game or try to do some online pua attempts.

A suggestion from a fellow newbie...

Go back to basics and work on inner game. Whenever you talk to a girl, maintain eye contact and don't break it, and smile for fucks sake! You sound like a complete downer to be around.

What have you been reading/watching? There's a full seminar posted on Youtube done by David X in monreal (just type in 'david x montreal' and it'll come up). It's 6 hours, so it took me a few days to get through but a lot of great stuff. David Deangelos stuff may also be good for your situation.

The two guys I mentioned above have helped me hugely to get out of the AFC mindset. Get in the PUA mindset first, and everything else will start following.

I have had the same feelings as you but I've always come back the question - If I give up, how am I going to get laid? The only reason to give up is because it's all bullshit and doesn't work. But it does work...

Hope that helps!

Do you realize how much of a BS excuse that sounds like?!?

It would do you well to be aware of that little defensive voice in your head (let's call it the biological bitch), the one that came up with the silly thought that your personality is not compatible with the PUA lifestyle. Keep in mind that your brain is a guard, and employs the BB to keep you safe, at the expense of your quest for fulfillment.

Think about the moment that self-defeating thought crossed your mind. I bet there was instant gratification. Here is the conversation that happened in a split second when you had that thought.

you: Things are not going as well as I expected right now.
BB: Maybe you're just not cut out for this.
you: Why would I not be cut out for this?
BB: It's not you, it's your personality. It can't work. (It's not your fault. You're not to blame. It's your personality's fault=instant gratification)
you: Yeah, you know what? Maybe you're right
BB: Yes. Just quit. This isn't for you. But hey, at least you tried! (pat on the back=instant gratification)

The instant gratification lures you back to your predictable, safe life on the couch in the living room of your comfort zone.

Now here's how a MAN in CONTROL could handle the conversation:

you: Damn, things are not going the way I expected them to.
BB: Maybe you're just not cut out for this. *RED FLAG*
you: False. There must be some sticking point I'm having trouble with.
BB: Yeah, it's your personality.
you: Well that's vague. No. I need to step back and REALLY analyze my game so I can improve it.
BB: Just take a break for a while. That's all you need. You've been working too hard.
you: (brow furrowed) No. I can do this. I'll work harder.


Don't let the manipulative excuse-inventing sonuva BB conduct your life!

Remember:

1) "It is our choices, far more than our abilities that make us who we are."

2) FAILURE IS MOMENTARY

This is a funny thread, how can you expect others to hold you in high esteem when you yourself have a LOW esteem of you?

Seriously i can just imagine your body language in the field...closed and unapproachable.

Relax, and when you talk about reverting back to yourself...ermm don't revert back to AFC, the purpose of PUA is to build upon yourself while keeping your key values.

But whatever, if you wanna quit, then quit.

I took the rest of my week off from trying any PUA material and just being myself more. It's been working a bit better, and my confidence is rising back up again. I'm going to roll with trying a more natural approach to gaming and keep building on my personality. Thanks for the encouragement fellas.

i can relate to this.

at times i felt like i hit a brick wall and couldn't improve. you just have to remember that sometimes things come easy, and sometimes you have to work your ass off for it. if you are not a natural, then being PUA is a lot of hard work. i know its a cliche nowadays, but sometimes the shit you feel from failure is only going to make you stronger to deal with life's challenges in the long run.

keep your head up and don't give up. this PUA stuff works, trust me.

THANK GOD

HE MADE HIS AVATAR HAPPY

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LOL @ kata, check it out, none of this material is gonna get you laid, your gonna get YOU, laid played and kick the fuck outta. Just like regular ass life, trying to be a pua, is like life, shit comes goes and even gets on your shoes.

Man i haven't been prizing/gaming for more than a month, i got two local pua's who let me talk to them about what's going down on the psychi level. And shit, one of them even helped me in the middle of shit.

just relax. if you chill out from pua stuff, relax from doing it, and move into being more social.. like just try to hold a conversation with some body.

I'm right at the three week mark, i've read a few books. and I'm telling you, your biggest enemy is yourself. Right now, i got a nice hb8 inviting me to have drinks, and she's fucking buying.. but we know ill pitch in after a few rounds hey hey', i got my boss at work on day one, i froze her out after flaking on me, and now shes back, got two more girls at work, gonna get them to drag me, cause im so "Un-willing" to a few frat parties.. best thing is, i'll have friends to bring along. get a few of those two, or make them, shit even imagine them..
peace

You need to get off your self-pitying ass and talk to an HB. So what if she's hot ... you're expecting too much from them without doing anything. They don't give you shit until you MAKE them.

Go out htere, open sets, crashand burn but move on to the next. You think Moses separated the Red Sea by being an AFC?

Now go separate the Red Sea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put your stick in there.

This is a very late reply to a post very much forgotten. Yet I want to put my point across for anyone else that finds this through Google. The author was not wrong in giving up. The Game does screw with your mind, and will get you no where in the long run. The ONLY lessons to be taken from it are that girls can find you attractive, that you CAN get nearly anyone you want, and that it all it takes is a bit of confidence.

To achieve this, you do NOT need techniques, canned material, openers or lines. Instead you need to work on your LIFESTYLE. Make yourself more attractive by being good at what you love. Having a passion for something will bring like minded people into your life, and there you will find real beauty.

Create a natural attractive lifestyle, and live the life as a pick up artist without having to learn routines.
PUA Lifestyle --> http://pualifestyle.com/blog

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Alright heres your life raft. If you feel like your runing out of stuff to say or about to freeze up use this.

"Hey i have to go take care of something"

or

"hey i forgot i got something to do"

Remember you can always bail and come back after you open you dont have to stay and have a constant convo. Then it gives you time to think about your next move. It will also work to your benifit since it will give them time to think "is he going to come back". Leave them wanting more. If your stuck in class and cant do it then go to the rest room. Anything to gain your composure back. This is something i think alot of PUA forget. You dont have to stay and woo them till you meet your goal. You already did the hard part and thats breaking the ice without making them feel threatened.

Also if you have hooked the girl then you should be able to be your self without any problems. My guess is you didnt have her hooked if all you got was a hug and then she decided to bail becuase you wernt talking enough. Im sure when you started feeling awkward it was pretty obvious and she started picking up that feeling from you.

Also you can always make up some random story. Like tell her you saw some girls fighting or something and if she calls you on it you could always just say it was a joke. Or just say "hmm i cant think of anything to talk about what about you". This isnt the best one but it might get the convo back up and runing. It dosnt have to be true just dont get cought in a lie. Even tho its not lieing its flirting.
BTW if she ever does catch you in a little white lie you can use that line. "I wasnt lieing i was flirting."

If you give up now all the meat head jerk guys will laugh at you while they are pounding the girl of your dreams before they take your mom out to dinner and give her sloppy pounding seconds. I bet you dont want that do you? Unless you like who you are now which i doubt otherwise you woundt have posted here.

Also it will only take one success and all the past failures will be forgotten. And you will know it was all worth it.

And as a final note. I ate a Mcgriddle today and it was like eating a baby angel.

Hope that helps.

Skankin

Oops thought this post was more recend since there was a recent entry. my bad. I also do not use any canned openers those are for people who freeze up or dont have thier own imagination.

If you run strict MM or something and you are still in school it won't work. You need to learn social circle gaming. The phenomenon of social status can lock you out if you don't master it but make you a god if you do master it. Again, gaming in college is much different and shouldn't be approached like a club.

But I agree with the above. You're sounding beta.

PUA is a business these days. Much like churches are a business. It is all the same. They take advantage of those that are on the bottom of the ladder. Sad, but true. God and girls are great. But using them to make money for yourself is sick if you ask me.