Okay, what to do when girl is cocky and almost arrogant. She is good looking (the best looking in town) and she knows it.

+ She thinks she can game anybody, she likes to take advantage of people. She games 5 guys at the same time. Uses them to get rides and so on.

How do you prevent that? She jumps through your hoops and fires one back straight away, should you just keep that going until she gets tired?

Help with this kind of situation!

(IN MY CASE I KNOW THE GIRL PRETTY GOOD ALREADY)

Don't let her game you. Pull up hoops and reward. If she gives you a hoop, then don't jump through it. Just start over again by giving her a new directive.

- Exerio

Why??? Would you wanna be with somebody like that???

Anyways, just don't follow everybody else and come with hard negs, and do things different the other guys ... but personally me I don't like women who use guys and talk to multiple guys ... its trashy ...

Just hold your frame. If you realize she is making guys jump through hoops, be the guy that doesn't jump through. Tease her a little bit, not necessarily negging, just be playful. Make her work for your attention instead of just giving it to her like everyone else seems to. Don't always make yourself available to her. If she has quite the ego, some guys will say to knock her down to "your level", but I disagree. I have the theory that everyone has the same "level", it's just a matter of giving her the keys to enter your world when she earns them. When girls have inflated egos, they tend to think/know they can get a lot of guys, so you need to be that upbeat cool guy she just can't seem to catch. Social proof will also do you some good in this case.

Those are just some ideas that came to my head when glancing over this topic. Take some of the pointers how you will. Perhaps give us some sample of how your interactions with her go and I can be more specific.

Same level huh????

I don't know about that one ... I think girls like that think there automatically better then you because, they have five other dudes that will do whatever ... I don't know if she is going to be willing to just work for your attention, because there like whatever I have michael ... I think in situation like this trust me neg is going to have to fall in place ... because these regular guys are filling gurls like this up with hot air ... I would deffinately tease and play hard to get ...

I think this is a strong case for some pushing and pulling.

So first Im hard to get, then I seem a bit like "Ahh this guy is into me", then again push away?

As a man you're supposed to take the lead. Take her hoops and make her jump through them instead of you doing all the jumpy work.

Can I get a small example of this?

I agree.

Everything said here is good. Negs, keeping your frame. Just don't be intimidated. Tell her you think she's ugly or something. Or ask her about her youth, wtf happened with you back in the day that got you so attention addicted?

The way a girl like this works, is by keeping things ambigious, and its usually used by certain types of women on guys who won't go direct.

So....

Go direct, state your interest and escalate, if she doesn't reciprocate then you know you are being strung along.

Simple as.

You get what you want or you don't.

and time isn't wasted.

This problem comes from the ambigiuity of indirect game, so why the hell are people recommending MORE indirect game.. negs, etc

Really confuses me :/

Tossing out neg's is no point, really. It just makes you look like a guy who has something against a girl who is popular.

Don't leap into her loops is the way to go, and if she don't want to, then move to another girl.

Example:

Girl: Give me your name.
You: Sure, if you give me yours first.
Girl *name*
You: Okay, I'm *name*

A situation that shouldn't happen very often, but occasionally does:
Girl: Get me a beer.
You: Sure, after you get me one.
Girl: No, I won't do that.
You: Then we agree:)

A lot of the times at least for me her friends join in say: Aren't you a gentleman? Get the girl a beer etc.

At these points you have to maintain your frame, if the girl can't control you, her friends shouldn't either.
- Exerio

I wouldn't assume that. I have female friends who are attractive and swarmed with guys, but they are also very humble and intelligent. If you think a girl is automatically "better" than you because she has social proof, I disagree with that mentality. She isn't "better", she is just in a different social scene than you are, and there is nothing wrong with different. You can always expand your own social circle too... no reason you can't be in her position instead with 5 girls.
She will be working for your attention. This is like old school cat-string theory. The 5 other guys you mentioned have stopped dangling the string in front of the cat... she will grow bored of them and walk away - they will go no where with her. If you keep dangling that string, she will keep chasing it.

Yup.

So she is used to get whatever she wants from everyone. She will welcome an interaction with someone who doesnt fall for it. The only one who treats her for who she is and not the act. The only one who is strong enough to see through her and deny her the special SPAM she gets from the rest of the losers.

Read up on frame reversals.

Dealing with a girl like this is a bit like handling an AMOG.

Whenever she tries to get something from you, its a shit test! Give her a look "yeah right thats gonna happen, not".

Show her that you have seen through her game, just hint at it, not verbally but just bodylanguage, smiles, eye contact whenever she does it. She will feel it.

Use her skills. "Hey could you get a drink for me from that guy over there? Just tell him its for you."

Create a feeling of that since you have seen through it, you are at the same level, you respect her as an equal. You are two players meeting and respecting each others skills in a professional manner.

Check online for the soul mate moment routine. I think I posted it here a while ago but it may be around somewhere.

Read up on the our world conspiracy theory...

Good luck man!

Ezo