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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:55 pm 
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I don't know about you guys. But I've tried this on like 6 girls and only one has been really receptive to it. I think they just brush it off.

It's not my profile because I've actually had plenty of success with other openers commenting on whatever is on their profile.

I think this opener really needs a 'call to action', I think step 4 ("Ever consider giving it another shot? I mean we were pretty good together. ") should be incorporated into the first message.

What do you guys think?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:51 pm 
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personally, i like to BS her and say i saw her on my 'people you may know' list. tell her she didnt look familiar, but say she looks cool enought to get to know. this breaks the ice and blows off any "wtf? this guys is a creeper, messaging random girls..." ideas she may have. i wouldnt mind implementing a few of these lines into my e-game. thanks alot.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:54 am 
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Ok first of all, the topic title does not does this method justice, it should be labeled as the holy bible of online game....

Guys, I feel as AFC as all of you all, but i swear, this method could not work any better... sure you get the usual stupid hb that isn't into having fun but think about it, this probably isn't really the type of girl you want anyway (longer term speaking)... I will be writing a full in depth report about this method soon once i get more concrete calculations out of the way, but for now, this method is working like gold for me... i've only been using it on matchersdotcom (figure it out) and i can say i get at least a 70-80% reply rate on first contact, which is WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than going AFC style. (Best thing you could ever do for yourself is sign up as a girl and see WTF is really going on, its an eye OPENER... no matter how much people tell you about it, you have to EXPERIENCE it yourself... dont think about how homo it seems, just fucking do it and you'll see what i'm (and all of my hero's) are talking about.

If this was gambling, i would go "all in" on this method, EVERY TIME!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:34 pm 
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OK I am Jsten's brother so don't hold this against him, this post has been working like GOLD for me too and I have number and F closed like a champ (I follow up with my own banter via text buddy and on day2) but a great ice breaker it's unreal. However, I am always worried if I am not the first one to send this to someone and almost tripped up. I hit up a HB9.5 on POF who said no copy and pasted emails. Here is what I sent her:

Hey, what is this copy and paste email you talk about? The one where I tell you that I have already married and divorced you in my mind, so I am going to need half our money according to the prenup? Anyways, thanks for the happy imaginary memories but you should not have had that affair with Sancho the pool boy!
Hit me up when you get to the bay if you need a job, I own a millwork company called **** and I'd love to have a female sales rep running around! I don't mean to use you right off the bat here but I might as well just cut to the chase, and if you're good I'll reward you with a motorcycle ride.
-****
PS. I see that you only have mean pics on your profile as well, I bet I could make you smile!


Her response:
Oh, copy and paste e-mails are these lovely things that people use when they don't want to take the time to write something unique. I used to get the exact same paragraph message from people all the time. The first time I saw it I thought the person wrote it themselves, and I thought they were BRILLIANT! And then I got it another dozen times from other people.

I wish I could take you up on that job offer! It would definitely make my life easier if I could work while I was in San Fran. But unfortunately I'm a Canadian citizen, and I haven't gotten a work visa. So I'll just be living off my savings for as long as I can while I'm down there training in dance.

And dude, I'm seriously sorry about that pool boy, but I'm keeping the house.

lol


Good thing I didn't hit her up with it copy and paste!!
Thoughts.....


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:39 pm 
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So I have to say, dude... This opener is gold... absolute fucking gold, bordering platinum... the sad part about it is that it's spreading too rapidly... I got a reply from a girl I used this on (POF):

LOL wow... you're the second person to send me that.
Hmmmmm.. I'm quite the divorcee.

I can do with the house in Hawaii though :)

ex-wifey,

Vanessa

I'm tempted to still continue the routine but skip a couple of steps... But that shit is risky...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:33 pm 
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She still played along so I figure... no reason to jump off ship quite yet... instead I used the divorce court modifier... My response:

Woah... back it up here... You were married before? Oh no you di-in't! You never told me about that... No wonder it never worked between us... Based on this new info, I'm likely to bring your ass straight to divorce court all over again! Not a real one though -- one of those trashy TV shows you see on at like 1PM where the husband is screwing his secretary and the wife ran off with the pool boy. You better be ready to bring it!

That is unless we can settle it some other way...?

I'll keep you posted as to the result.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:20 am 
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I'm glad some of you got decent responses so far the only one I've gotten back isn't too kind. Here is her response.

HB8
Ha. After skimming over ur meaningless message ive mentally made it a point to dub u a d bag:) SERIOUSLY the wonderful girl u can only imagine being with but will never have p.s. Keep dreaming

Any ideas on how to turn this around or should i just drop it and keep going?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:42 pm 
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Being a confident PUA,one should already be assuming that the chicc would play along(your strong meta-frame). Its too long though(milking the routine).

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:59 pm 
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Yes, it is too long. Here is what I've been doing:
1 Opener
2 Sancho Affair
3 Sister/Pillow fight
4 Give another try
5 Number Close

You guys should be getting at least 50 percent of the chix w this, it's rediculous.
I have also found that continuing the banter via texting by calling pet names (honey, baby, etc.) and recalling old times builds incredible comfort! I love this shit, I just wish it wasn't so freakin popular right now.

Thread starter, lets get working on something new! I'd love to lend a hand if needed


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:33 am 
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So what do you do if she says just says

OK

after the opener? I figure its an indicator of some interest.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:41 pm 
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I've had this before and it sux, she probably won't play along. Try this: "Don't act so innocent missy, you were the desperate housewife who had the affair with Sancho the pool boy while I was off making all the money to feed the kids!"


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:20 am 
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great material kata, mad props brother.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:25 am 
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She said Ok... again. Maybe i should talk to her about interests instead? she has similar interests.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:49 pm 
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At least she is saying OK and not ignoring you, we'll take that as a small ioi. I'd leave her alone if it were me cause I probably don't want a chick that is dry like that, but here would be my next step if I were going to continue:
"OK, that's all you're going to give me after all we've been through? If you can't tell I'm trying to mend things with you cause we had some good times and we do have (________ common interests), but if you want to throw all that away over the pool boy that's up to you. But that's not what I want!"
PS. It's better for the kids too.

You can throw in the pillow fight/great sex in there somewhere too.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:28 pm 
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:D this just worked,perfectly for me.

She played right into my hands and got a number close.

Doubt ill ever text it but proves this can work :)


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