"Leave her better than you found her."
Something we should all abide by!

Her facebook status said "is in a really terrible mood." While AFCs were commenting with massage offers and the like, I hit her up on facebook chat, telling her "I'm here to make you feel wonderful."

After a little small talk, I tell her to talk to me on AIM because facebook chat sucks moose nuts. It really does.

Chief: im tempted to ask what happened, but id rather ask you what your favorite ice cream flavor is
Chief: what is it
Girl: hahha
Chief: seriously
Girl: chocolate chip cookie dough with rainbow sprinkles
Chief: hm very nice
Chief: cone or cup?
Girl: cone
Chief: what kinda cone
Girl: waffle
Chief: wow going all out there huh
Girl: hahah most definitely
Girl: what about you?
Chief: so lets say youve got this juicy looking chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream with rainbow sprinkles, 2 scoops, stuffed deliciously into a large waffle cone
Chief: the epitome of indulgence
Chief: its a hot summer day and youve got one your cutest spagetti strap top and big ol sunglasses that make ur face look smaller
Girl: lol
Chief: the sun's heat is beating down on your brow, you break a sweat, BUT EVERYTHING IS OK
Chief: because youve got your delicious ice cream
Girl: of course
Chief: a little bit of it is starting to drip down
Chief: so ur face approaches the cone
Chief: and the anticipation for flavor excites your nerves
Chief: and so u take one lick...
Chief: and how does that flavor make u feel?
Girl: well, do i just get the vanilla part, the sprinkles part, or do i get some cookie dough?
Chief: a combination of sprinkles and vanilla for now
Chief: and bit a tiny bit of cookie dough flavor
Girl: pure bliss
Chief: and the experience of this delicious bliss can be quiote powerful, cant it?
Chief: quite*
Girl: very much so
Chief: in fact, it's almost tangible, as if you can package this pure bliss in a little cute box with a bow
Girl: haha
Chief: open your hand, because that little box is in your hand right now
Chief: you got it there with u now?
Girl: yup, its right there
Chief: open it
Chief: see whats inside
Girl: oh! it's tangible bliss!
Chief: its yours
Chief: its always been yours
Chief: but now u can feel it better than ever before
Girl: yup
Chief: there
Chief: i made u feel wonderful
Chief: that'll be 29.95 thank you
Chief: lol jk
Girl: hahahahah
Girl: dayum
Girl: you should charge money for that
Chief: but u feel a lot better than before right
Girl: yup

After that conversation, her facebook status changed from "is in a really terrible mood" to "is allllllll better!!!!"

Leave her better than you found her.

Do a good deed with all that you've learned in pickup and expect nothing in return. This power you have is a gift that you can keep on giving.

Incredible post. One of the best ones I've ever gotten across. And it is true, the purpose isn't to get laid, it's about making others feel better.

Thanks for a great post Chief:)

Thanks for this amazing post.

I'm a nice guy to the core. I love cheering people up.
It's my mission, no girl will feel alienated around me. I spread rainbows and unicorns wherever I go. Hur Hur.




on a side note:
Notice how Chief keeps on talking and not waiting for her responses.

You're setting the standards we should all follow. Thanks Chief!

if that convosation would of ended in a date ... I think it would of made for a better convosation, but I do agree there is nothing wrong with using your skills to make others feel better ...

Brilliant!
Now, where the hell can I learn to do that? Was that NLP?

Yup. It is NLP

Back when I was competing, our team psychiatrist used to run several versions of these visualization/anchoring combos. My "anchor" was my nose . . . I'd flick it like Bruce Lee . . . LOL . . .

Anyhow . . .

"Leave her better than you found her . . ." This has always made me chuckle a bit. Now I know this is a far better pursuit than to "Leave her worse than you found her" but . . . We're assuming that,

1. We know what's best for her. (Hell, I'd say 99% of posters don't even know what's best for themselves let alone another human being.)

2. We know how to make her better. (Although I commend Chief's efforts on turning a stranger's blues into an "I'm all better now", entangled relationships where the PUA's emotions are involved are something completely different.)

And then there's the statement itself. Before you make her better, you leave her. This is the at the pinnacle of the PUA's agenda. We leave "her" because there's plenty more of that vagina to hunt down . . . We leave her because we simply want fresh vagina (To us any way). We leave her because we know we can get ourselves another vagina with just another one liner from our archives.

And it doesn't matter what you think is right for her does it? I know Chief's a talented PUA but I also know he's too young to have experienced heart aches. I mean . . . real heart aches. Girls who tell you they're happy with the fuck buddy thing while they've really wanted to marry you for 2 years type of heart ache. Girls who cry in your face 3 days after Valentines day because they couldn't hold themselves together to get on the phone for 72 hours. Girls who've turned down marriage proposals betting on your sorry ass to "come around".

Yes, I am playing devil's advocate but I've always been on the fence with this PUA objective. Not because I don't believe in the ideals but because I just don't think that it's an accomplishable goal. Meanwhile, I do think that this simple statement provides our budding PUA stars with enough wiggle room to tell us all that, "Well, in spite of what anybody thinks (probably including the girl herself), I left her . . . BETTER THAN I FOUND HER."

The World According to Who?

If our intentions are good, some good things are bound to happen.

As long as our intentions are placed in a way that promotes good feelings while maintaining respect for our fellow human beings, then the subjective matter of what's actually best for the woman no longer becomes an issue. The "better" in "leaving her better than you found her" is only truly a "better" if both parties involved agree that it is indeed "better." That's where the respect comes in.

Yes, it get's pretty messy when it comes to actually trying to "leave her better" when a real pickup is involved, but good things will inevitably come out of it if your actions and intentions are aligned with your core values.

Ok, so I've done some searching and it turns out that NLP is pretty broad...
What would the stuff above be called?
Or is it a mix of a bunch of different techniques?

It just strikes me as Chief being a nice person.

So I see it as more being nice and having a positive attitude, and using it to cheer up someones day as opposed to a specific "technique"

Chief will probably correct me on this

It's called patterning. I was improvising a pattern that I was making up on the spot loosely based on her responses. I was also taking advantage of some of her trance words like "bliss."

This is the typical Western-Christian-missionary ideal. The backbone of this ideal is of course, "I am better than you and thus I have the right to push and pull you the I see fit."

How about just leaving them "alone"? . . . nope. We can't do this . . . we know more than them. We are smarter than them. . . hell, we know them better than they know themselves. We'll make them better. Right . . . but before that, we'll take care of our needs first.

Do you know how psychiatrists diagnosis add and adhd?

1. 5th grade teacher gets pissed off at rowdy kid.
2. Vice Principle gives disciplining a twirl.
3. School nurse wants part of the action.
4. School Doctor observes.
5. A standardized test is given.
6. Doctor 1: "I think the kid's got adhd. Do you concur?"
7. Doctor 2: "Yes."
8. Parents: "We just want what's best for our child."
9. Kid, "I guess I want to get better."
10. Doctor 1's family gets a Hawaii vacation from frequent mileage points for his meeting the annual psychiatric drug prescription goals.
11. Doctor 2's wife is jealous of Doctor 2's Hawaiian Holiday and tells him to try better next year.

Can you point to any "bad intentioned" cast member in the above play?

What's best for the woman? This isn't even our business in the first place. I agree with Lowery that Chief seems like a nice guy and the initial example seems like a nice act. But if good intentions and our concept of respect is all it takes for "good outcomes", we would still be euthanizing and sterilizing the mentally ill, relieving them of their "horrible suffering". For most of us, I'd think "tread lightly" is probably a more honest and realistic goal.

What I'm talking about is 180 degrees different from what you're talking about.

You're talking about forcing your own will unto another person. I'm talking about respectfully offering to share good things with others.

There will always be the chance that the woman will reject you or decline what you have to offer. In that case, don't rape her. Just leave her alone and share the awesomeness that is you with someone who will actually want it.

In fact, the mindset of "I know better than you" NEVER comes into play when it comes to true respect and self-respect. I'm sure you know what I mean by that, kasabi.

And, for fuck's sake, stop calling me "nice" lol. I'm a hard-drinking douchebag frat boy