i'm not a pua, i'm one of those guys that are "friends". and that's not what i want to be. Friends are wikid, espicially the good ones, garunteed banter whatever the situation; to get to the point, i want to change.

i dont want to have 200 friends on facebook and be on 10 "top 16 buddies". i couldn't give a toss! i want to get that sexy (to girls) and laddish (to guys) reputation.

i had a gf once whoe's brother was a PROPER PROPER natural. I remember her telling me he had sex with 7 different girls in one month whilst in a relationship and having a fb. and he was 17. girls hated him cos they thought he was arrogant...but still wanted to fuck him.

its this natural instinct my exterior lacks. im funny, good looking i like to think, (a good picture gets me 9.6 on hotornot.com) and naturally confident. but i'm still lacking the X fucking factor.

so do you think i should properly become a PUA to achieve this or should i just chuckout my wadrobe n dress as to how i want to be seen.

CD

You know what you want overall. Now you just have to work on presenting yourself as the sexy guy to women. Avoid simple chit chat with women, this will only get you into the LJBF zone with them. You need to start making women see you as a potential lover and not a potential friend. Drop hints that you are sexually attracted to her in your conversations and your actions. You have to be punctual in your motives, otherwise you will come off as confused and unconfident and possibly uninteresting in your targets eyes, and won't be anything more than just that guy she can talk to....

I personally am not the type of person to do 1 night stands. ESPECIALLY if im interested in a woman.

As Kaos stated already, you gotta make it known that youre interested in more than JUST FRIENDS. You need to DHV around her so she feels that she should want to be around and with you at all times.

Keep working on your game and youll eventually be able to fine tune everything to exactly what YOU want.

-fuzz

BTW, becoming a PUA is not an easy task. It takes time and effort on your part. And there are some consequences in the long run, so you need to ask yourself if you are willing to take the risk. IMO becoming a PUA will help you in all aspects of your life, not just the women....

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alright cheers lads. im gona post this in the general lounge too to see what some more ppl think, i'm just gonna work on my game steadily...no hardcore Tyler Durden ploughing.

here's a problem i just encoutered last night:

Its with a HB 8.5 who i really like, though have never met alone, is best friends wit my ex.

talking on msn, and it got to this:

Me- i'm in town on monday, do you want to join me? (not in these words)
HB- dno
Me-well fuck off then (in these words just to see how shed react)
HB-well WAT do you want me to say after what i've heard you say about me?!

Me- WTF are you banging on about
HB- Fred said that you said to George that you think i fancy you and you're just lapping it up!

---I'm frantically thinking who is Fred and I don't remember telling anyone anything---

---then i work out quickly that Fred used to go out with her along time ago but isn't frends with me but is frends with my good friend george---

Me- I haven't spoken to George in 3 weeks! (truth)
HB-well it might Fred making things up, in which case fair do's

---i dont buy this crap that she's gonna believe wat she just said, so being on msn which is instant i had to think quickly, n the only thing i could think of was the truth---

Me- look i'll be honest yea, this makes me sound like a average frustrated chump but i do like you, so i probs did say something to George, but nothing in offense to you.

---Can't believe i fucking said this shit, everything about it screams TWAT---

HB- i'm sorry, and thanks

Conversation then continued a little about bs. Bloody cockblocking Fred. All of this wouldn't have happened if he didn't make up some shit.

HB- well i think i have hockey on monday, if i'm free i'll let you know

---after my SHITE performance, yea right.---

What would you guys do/say if in my situation?! You think i should call her? or wait....ARGH.

Calvin, i would wait. Coming on too strong is AFC. Freeze her out and make her wonder what happened to you. If things work out well, she will contact you in the near future...

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QFT

You already told her youre interested in her. No need to call her up again.

-fuzz

Hey Calvin,

Ok, from a general understanding view of your situation, it sounds like you are suffering from massive lack-of-confidence. I am not trying to analyze your post, but you don't have to justify yourself to us or validate yourself in order for us to read your posts (i.e. when you told us your hotornot.com rating or gave an exact number of facebook friends and best friends). If you need to justify yourself to us, I am guessing it is the same or even worse with girls. So, you came to us here. You have already looked over some of the material. You don't need to ask if you should become a PUA or not, you have already joined, whether you admit it or not. Your curiousity to improve will get the better of you.

So. Let us start in the beginning. I, too, was solely a friend to almost all girls at one point. A girlfriend was an uncommon find. Your wardrobe and dress have nothing to do with how a girl views you (at least not mostly, unless you can't match). In order to overcome your current situation, you need a personality-makeover. One way to overcome is to become a PUA. Now, like stated above, this is no easy matter. This will take a lot of time and, at first, will probably cause you some pain and heartache because of turn downs. But once you learn the game and how to handle social interactions with women in the way you want, you will achieve your goal. Start by reading over this forum and "The Game" by Neil Strauss. These will get you started. Ask questions. We have answers.

-Apollo

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Beat the harry potter cockblockers and dont let her walk all over you, be aloof. Shes treating you like shit and your just spoon feeding her reassurances. Forget her, unless you have one-itis and go out with your non harry potter friends and find a 9 or 9.5.

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What a title!