Okay well I made a post before of how I told this girl how I felt about her, but recently I've been feeling the need to fallback and say I was just playin around trying to see what reaction I would get out of her or something, I want to work on more "kino" and build more attraction before I actually seriously tell her. So whats your opinions should I leave it how it is with her knowing how I feel or fall back and say it was a joke or something. I'm kinda at a pause right now.

I don't think she would buy it now bro. How much time has passed since you said how you feel. How long into the relationship was it? It seems like it was WAY to soon if you are still worried about kino escalating here. Not trying to put you down but thats a card that you need to hold onto for a very long while, your going to scare lots of ladies off that way. we learn from our mistakes and move on.

as far as the kino, i dont really know. I kinda just naturally do it. shoulders and forearms are generally free space, always touch from the beginning of an interaction. Even with a hello how are you with a hand on the shoulder. Practice always touching and become natural at it. If you feel uncomfortable doing it she will notice and it will in turn make her feel the same way. if you are confident and don't think twice about it neither will she. over time if the vibes are going move the kino into more sexual things... shoulders and forearms to hands and thighs to back of the next and small of the back.

_________________
Smile and Be your BEST Self.

well I told her about it on last week exactly but lately ive been passivly ignoring her letting her call/txt first and being more dominant kinda teasing her in a way and being cocky,funny at the same time. So would it be too late to use the way ive been acting as an "obvious" way to show I was kidding about my feelings and say if it was true that I would be acting differently? Like Wouldn't saying that I was waiting to see how long I could keep her thinking it to see a reaction for fun and I decided it was boring and I felt awkward letting her think it was true? and go out more often afterwards and use alot more kino and such?

Young man,

You ARE a young MAN. Remember that. What you're doing is a chick's move. They get all emotional and swing this way and that. . . but they can blame it all on PMS. What's your excuse? You told her that she's the love of your life and now you're ignoring her? And then you just want to make a "ha ha" joke out of your actions?

Kino what?? Forget kino and escalation and everything else you think has to do with "pick up". You screwed up . . . so what? Big deal . . . Just call her and tell her that there's a cool __________ (any fun event) going on. Invite her. She says no and you tell her, "alright, next time." Next time you see her, tell her how much fun that event was citing specific situations and people. Then you tell segway into another fun event invite. She says no and then you don't invite her again. Instead, you invite 100's of other girls who are willing to join.

If she says yes however, you take her there . . . you chat . . .you whisper in her ear. You hold her hands. You crack jokes and make her laugh. You give her a peck on the cheek and tell her things like, "Oh . . . you're a cutie aren't you . . ."

Begin living instead of trying to figure this shit out. You're like a first time fisherman trying to figure everything out in your brain + telling the fish that it should jump up into your boat. Just toss any damn bait on the hook and drop the line. If the fish doesn't bite, you'll know to use a different bait. If the line breaks, you'll know to spool up a stronger line or to let the line go a bit. If the knots fail, you'll know to use a better knot the next time.

Right now, you haven't done JACK SHIT. Can't catch fish if you're not actually fishing and you won't get any play by sitting on your ass, acting like a little girl.

true, I haven't ignored her totally we talked daily but I just wasn't the one who started talking first she always messages me first now which is a surprise but ya usually I just let her reach me instead of doing it the other way like before. and ya we are going out in a few days and next month there is going to be a huge carnival I am going to ask her to come with me.

Ask yourself this:

What has "talking daily" done for you?

Think about it . . . do you think it has brought you ANY closer to her vagina? If not, drop this daily no-reason chit chat. You're not one of her chick friends looking to gossip about guys while getting your nails done. The more you engage in this no-reason bullshit sessions, the FURTHER you go from her vagina.

Every time you converse with her, you want to bring your DICK one step closer to her VAGINA. It's as simple as that. This is why you call her up and INVITE her. This brings your dick closer to her vagina. This is why you don't "ignore her" but instead, start living a life. . . the idea is "you're so damn busy with your incredibly fun life, you have no time to play the role of her nail salon gay buddy."

If you allow her you to call you and you play along and do the gay chit chat shit, her nervousness, her built up tension, her built up attraction slowly erode away. You're making her feel comfortable . . . just like one of her nail salon buddies or some gay pal.

You call HER up, and invite her. . . DONE. Now she's thinking, thinking, thinking . . . "Will he try to kiss me? Oh My God . . . How far will he try to go? Does he REALLY like me? What should I wear? Maybe I should play hard to get? . . . What is he doing now? I wonder if he's seeing other girls . . ."

But instead, she calls you and you go, "Blah, blah, blah, blah . . yeah the green shirt is nice on you. Blah, blah, blah"(You can do this after you've made her your girlfriend) Or you play the role of the scorned 17 year old chick and ignore her.

You have a date with her soon: Good. Living life doesn't mean revolving yourself around a date that will happen in several days. Live YOUR life; she will be attracted to it.

Okay that all makes a lot of sense but one question, well since shes used to be the first to start a conversation with me phone/txt/msn how do I break the cycle of this everyday gay salon buddy thing? like for phone/txt I know I can just ignore but on msn when im online what do I do? and for the phone/txt theres gotta be a time limit to get back isn't there?

My advice for you for this specific girl ends here.

lol, sometimes u can't talk sense into people. mismKE, you come here for advice, why don't u consider actually doing it.

I am actually doing it I just want to have more knowledge before I totally change my situation.