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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:07 am 
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What makes you consider yourself PUA?
How do you know you have crossed the line?
What are some other names of stages of guys who chase women everyday?

As I mentioned in my other recent post, I live in Asia. I have had situations in my life here when I was dating 10 women at the same time. When i slept with 3 women in one day.
When i went to bed counting my ¨sheeps¨when trying to sleep and i fell asleep before I got to the most recent one.

One month ago I had no idea what does the term PUA mean.

Now. Am i a PUA? Am I a natural? Am I a womanizer, playboy? (things I have heard before)

After reading a bit about all the techniques and stages, it seems to me I am doing some of them myself without ever learning them from anyone.

I have enjoyed some decent success I guess when it comes to women, but there is the stage of HB10s and strippers/KTV girls and HB10s who don´t speak english which is still a fairly unknown territory for me.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:14 am 
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A PUA can approach a girl in any situation without hesitation, premeditation, and the thought of failure. It means being able to shut out everything else and just focus on all the rules, Knowing the routines by the book and applying them, and always thinking of new ones.

No one on this site knows me yet but, i eat, breath, sleep, shit, and sarge. Those are the main functions of my body in order to live because living isnt just having the basic ammenities to survive, Living is getting out there, taking risks, and having fun while your doing, so sarging for me is right up there with breathing.

I also live in Asia, im in seoul korea for another 6 months. Out here there can be a giant language barrior. But im a PUA and nothing will get in the way of doing what i love. I learned the language.

The diversity of women here in korea is vast, and all through asia for the most parts. If your worried about language barriors dont be discourage, It just means that you need to get out and find some of the canadian, american and irish pubs. They are usually in the populated areas where universities and schools, because in asian countries they english school teachers. English is a very valuble language to these fast growing asian economies. You also have alot of models that come in from russia and and other european countries. The asian cultures need tall lengthy models to sport there fashion. and nothing says "come to this Club" better then a picture of a blue eyed, blond haired model, wraping her lips around a beer bottle, in an asian country filled with horny asian guys. :idea:

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bro....pm me. I am looking forward discussing ASIA with someone.
I have a feeling some very fifferent rules apply here sometimes.


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IMO it means you are good at PU.

But honestly PUA is a subjective term, it means whatever you want it to mean.


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The way I see it is what makes a lawyer a lawyer and not just a guy who is good at law??

Its all about clients :P


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It's completely subjective. At what point does a pile of salt become a heaping of salt? How many grains must you add for that pile to become a heaping?

How does a student of sculpting or painting know that he or she is an artist?

An artist is a creator. He or she creates art. A pickup artist is an artist. It's in the fucking name lol

Do you create real "art" with/within your seductions? A PUA is only defined subjectively because art is a subjective matter.

But, just as you KNOW a heaping of salt when you see one, you'll KNOW that you're a PUA if and when you become one.

By the way, if anyone's in Korea hit me up


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if you're fucking as many women as you want.


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It's completely subjective. At what point does a pile of salt become a heaping of salt? How many grains must you add for that pile to become a heaping?

How does a student of sculpting or painting know that he or she is an artist?

An artist is a creator. He or she creates art. A pickup artist is an artist. It's in the fucking name lol

Do you create real "art" with/within your seductions? A PUA is only defined subjectively because art is a subjective matter.

But, just as you KNOW a heaping of salt when you see one, you'll KNOW that you're a PUA if and when you become one.

By the way, if anyone's in Korea hit me up

I understand perfectly what you mean, but i am still undecided.
I used to be a sculptor and musician myself. How did I know I was a sculptor? Sculpting was my only source of income that fed me.
Knowing you are a musician is even easier :)

But PUA? I sarge because i am hoping to find that one special girl, and if I can´t, I at least want to get laid and have fun. I sarge, because i have fun sarging, opening up people, closing, using the different techniques and knowing what i am doing.

But somebody said an interesting thing earlier. ¨You are a PUA when you really open ANY set¨. I think I am not quite there yet. Especially night game with HB 10s is something I need to explore more.

Not in Korea, but if you ever come down to Shanghai, let me know.


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lol well i dont think that any PUA can "open any set", who ever said that needs to go global. Some sets dont speak english and some speak english but have completely different manurisms and ethnic differences. Those sets that have ethnic differences and different manurisms can be very boring, all the hard work you put into thinking of, openers, stick points, jokes, negs etc are lost. For instance try going up to a russian chick an say "man your beautiful" lol usually doesnt go over well. She will look at you like breakfast. But if you walk up and say " You look like you could suck the dick off a dinosaur" she might give u a cute smile and bat her eyes at you.

If you are a true pick up artist then always challenge yourself to expand your knowledge, step outside of the box...Neil Strauss AKA "style", challenged himself alot, but ive never heard of him walking into a perdominantly black club that plays nothing but hip hop and opening sets. I can, and i do. I try to step outside of my comfort zone and challenge myself. At These perdominantly black hip hop clubs i walk in and im automatically peacocking just by the color of my skin. Women in that club will be interested in the white guy wearing a button down, tight jeans, and penny lofers. They will automatically assume im confident to be bring my "White boy ass" in the club.

Spitting the same game at the same categories of women you are normally drawn to is easy and thats not a challenge at all for a true PUA.

When you can be diverse and well rounded with all different categories of women, hold there attention and get them interested in you, then you are a true pick up artist.

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lol well i dont think that any PUA can "open any set", who ever said that needs to go global. Some sets dont speak english and some speak english but have completely different manurisms and ethnic differences. Those sets that have ethnic differences and different manurisms can be very boring, all the hard work you put into thinking of, openers, stick points, jokes, negs etc are lost. For instance try going up to a russian chick an say "man your beautiful" lol usually doesnt go over well. She will look at you like breakfast. But if you walk up and say " You look like you could suck the dick off a dinosaur" she might give u a cute smile and bat her eyes at you.

If you are a true pick up artist then always challenge yourself to expand your knowledge, step outside of the box...Neil Strauss AKA "style", challenged himself alot, but ive never heard of him walking into a perdominantly black club that plays nothing but hip hop and opening sets. I can, and i do. I try to step outside of my comfort zone and challenge myself. At These perdominantly black hip hop clubs i walk in and im automatically peacocking just by the color of my skin. Women in that club will be interested in the white guy wearing a button down, tight jeans, and penny lofers. They will automatically assume im confident to be bring my "White boy ass" in the club.

Spitting the same game at the same categories of women you are normally drawn to is easy and thats not a challenge at all for a true PUA.

When you can be diverse and well rounded with all different categories of women, hold there attention and get them interested in you, then you are a true pick up artist.

good point.
Well I am in Asia now and so that is about tha global part.
It´s very common for me to try and open up a set and not get even one word answer (they don´t speak english)
Then, even when you do get an answer it can be a challange to recognize what she wants....100 bucks for a night? the whole marriage package?

It´s very common to walk into the bar full of beautiful women only to find out they are there with ¨clients¨. Even tho they are there in groups having a drink with the locals, these locals paid them to be JUST A COMPANY, play dice, cards and touch each other once in a while. Not even sex is involved most of the times. Now how ridiculous is that? ..lol

They are however often HB10, bored faces, no english or very little english.....all about money. But they are my current challange. I think i need to read more on the strippers game in the US. I might find some similar patterns.


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Lol ya we have those same kind of girls here in korea they are called "joosey girls" so i know where your coming from and they are NOT HB10's they are Filipino and thai girls that where skimpy outfits and ask you to buy them 20 dollar drinks.

I have actually been with a couple of these girls and its very simple. Develop an emotional connection, be persistant, tell them how you hope to one day soon get married and have children with a cat and dog and a little white picket fence, show them you have a soft side, and sometimes...your gonna have to buy them a drink. But if you become a regular at one of those places and build good report with the bar owner and the girls there and show you are respectful you will win them over....but its a waste of fuckin time i wouldnt even bother with those girls.

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no no man....i think we are talking about 2 different things......i have met philippino girls you are talking about who ¨work¨in the bar and asked me for 100 bucks to go home with me at first.
They speak english so i negotiated the price to 0.

I m talking about so called KTV girls. Local lads will go to KTV, pay 40-50 bucks for a girl to serve them drinks, play some sexual games and give them some company.
If the dudes are medium ok, the girls will go out with them and continue giving them company in the clubs.....where I meet them.
They are indeed HB10s. They are not exactly whores as they normally do not sleep with the clients, they speak little english or 0, and they are thus quite difficult to deal with..it´s a new thing for me, so lets see in a few months.


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I think you're a PUA when you know and understand enough aspects such as negs, DHV all that stuff, and can apply it to a natural routine.

There are good PUAs who have more success, and bad PUAs who are just starting.


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I think you're a PUA when you know and understand enough aspects such as negs, DHV all that stuff, and can apply it to a natural routine.

There are good PUAs who have more success, and bad PUAs who are just starting.
I dont really agree because there are pick up artist who dont even know they are pick up artist...they have never heard any of our acronyms or anything and still pull alot of girls...and by girls i dont mean phone numbers...you can number close girls all night and still never see those girls ever again.

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I think you're a PUA when you know and understand enough aspects such as negs, DHV all that stuff, and can apply it to a natural routine.

There are good PUAs who have more success, and bad PUAs who are just starting.
I dont really agree because there are pick up artist who dont even know they are pick up artist...they have never heard any of our acronyms or anything and still pull alot of girls...and by girls i dont mean phone numbers...you can number close girls all night and still never see those girls ever again.
I think I might be somewhere there :)


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