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 Post subject: Re: getting comfortable
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:19 pm 
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Hi

I'm just starting getting into this stuff and improving my social skills in general. I would be really grateful if you could answer a few questions on how to get the ball rolling

The Biggest problem of all is being able to get over the fear of approaching. I know that once this is overcome I'll work hard at improving this area of my life as I do with other areas, but im finding it really hard to build up the courage to approach people. Ive started taking your advice on systematically desensitising myself and for about a week know Ive started to talk to strangers (shopkeepers etc) whenever I can think of something to say, and everyday I make sure I say something to at least one stranger (usually asking directions to a coffee shop or the time).

The trouble is whenever I see a hot girl id like to talk to or a group of cool people id like to get to know I cant think of anything to say, if i ask for the time or something like that i usually cant think of anything to say afterwards. I know there are openers and stuff out there but I dont feel like I have the courage yet, to ask people I dont know about what they think of a completeley made up scenario (that if im honest often seem pretty stupid to me) or question that I dont really care about. Ideally Id like to just go up to a girl or group of people and just introduce myself and start talkng to them, but i really dont feel comftable doing that yet and the few times ive managed to summon up the corrage I ofton havnt been able to think of anything to say and have just been frezed out. Part of my worry about using these scripted oppeners and routines is that when im out im usually out at the local pubs/clubs on the university campus and so it isnt a situation of "youve got nothing to loose, youll probobly never see them again" , so I dont want to earn the reputation of this guy that goes round and asks everyone the same wierd questions. Again I live in a small town so the same would apply to sarging at the few local clubs and pubs there areSo any advice on how to ease myself from where I am now to a point where I can conftably go up and start a conversation (any tips on being able to tink of something to say and get a good conversation natturally flowing?) with a hot girl or a group of people would be great.

Another problem is the fact that i dont have anyone to help or do game with. I think it would be really helpful if I had someone to encourae and push me through the initial steps. Id like to take a bootcamp or a 1on1 but im a student and dont have the money, i have the feeling that if I introduced one of my friends pick up theyd think it was stupid, and Im also worried about people I know being aware that I read up on and want to practice how to get good at interacting with women - i think tere would probobly be a stigma atached to this. Ive tried to find people on the internet to practice with but i live in a fairly small town and havnt been able to find anyone. Any advice on this?

Thirdly I'd appreciate any tips on expanding your social circle. This isnt just for the sake of meeting girls, I want to find the right friends for me aswell as the right girl. Specifically it would be cool to know some pointers on bringing female friends into your social circle when your current social circle is predominantly made up of guys.

Thanks



Hey davro12345,

Slowly working yourself to get over AA is great but you really need to up your practicing. Asking one stranger a day a basic question is good but now it needs to increase. The ONLY way to get better is to actually do it. Raise it from one to 5 a day. From there try to keep a convo going beyond the opener. Increase it gradually but make sure it is happening. Like I said in a previous post, there are still people in your life every day who make good practice ground. Everytime you go to the store, grocery shopping, coffee shop, etc., speak to the people who work there, young or old, and practice on them.

In terms of finding people to practice with, if you're in a University there are always guys who want to pick up chicks. There are bound to be a few PUAs at your uni, but if not make friends with guys that might not be in your immediate social circle and go out with them saying you want to meet new people, especially girls.

And as I also said on a previous post, the best way to add girls to your social circle is to LJBF the girls immediately first. Try and grow your social circle of friends by going out with no intentions to game girls, but to just meet them and add them to your friend group. Guys mess it up when they try to close every girl they meet. Get you and your social circle of guys to try and come up with a cool event that girls are involved in. Maybe play American football in the park every Sunday and have coed teams or invite everyone over to someone's residence hall/flat to watch Pop Idol/American Idol every Thursday. Post it up on Facebook and invite everyone you know. Being consistent with it is the important part so that the word can spread and it can grow each week.


Keep pushing yourself and you will see those results! Don't limit yourself and keep at it!

Adam


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 Post subject: Intellectual HB
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:22 am 
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Hey Adam,

Thanks for all your knowledge, really.

Well, the thing is that I'm a school student that really likes social sciences, so I always go to conferences in Universities. The problem is not approaching college girls, but approach to Master and PhD's girls been only a teen. Haha.
I went today to a conference about Honduras coup, and after the conference began a HB entered the room. She gave me a lot of IOI's but I didn't knew what to do because obviously she went to listen the conference and it's kind of hard to talk without getting SHH's. Most of the times I can't stay until the conference ends because my mom pick me up at the time she is available.
So whats the best way to get her number without almost talking? And, does the age matters?

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:42 pm 
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Hey Adam.

I have been trying to get this girl, but thing is, game seems useless.
When I "gamed her" I ended up pushing her away.

Now, lately I've been a lot more AFC on purpose. Weird thing is, she seems to like it.
The other day I ended CRYING on the phone when she told it was better if I got away from her, because I'd get tired of her, blah blah.

I then admitted that I've been in love with her for 3 years, a thing I always lied about. I proved it my mentioning a song she was listening to in a totally useless and remote moment, it touched her, and she told me:

"You realize I now love you more than I ever did, right?"

She has been "cheating" on her boyfriend with me (not actually cheating because when we did something she had asked her boyfriend for a time, because of me, although he doesn't know i'm the cause)

What is going on? I'm always afraid I'm saying I love her too many times, that I'm giving up my power, blah blah. But the opposite of what I've learned is working! What the f**

Well, it's not that linear. I'm still act cocky a lot of times, she loves it when I say things like: "You do know I'm the best that will ever happen to you", especially because I'm serious while saying it.

She loves it when I write her romantic poems, lame texts, etcera. Now, I am a pretty good writer in my native language (portuguese), so I know that's part of the reason. But still.

I haven't forgotten what I've learned about the Game, but I've been way TOO MUCH afc, and I don't understand why it is working.

Sorry about the long post, but this is really a different case.

EDIT: Btw, her boyfriend and her breaking up is just a matter of time. She's way insecure, and afraid of breaking up with him because when she tried he started crying and saying he'd die if she ever left him and stuff like that. I know I'm part of the reason, but now whole.

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I am not looking for my special someone anymore because I have found her and we are getting married in just a few weeks.
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Hey Adam, I need your advice on a situation w/ a girl in my class. I met this girl at a party at the end of spring, talked to her friends and they all liked me. Turns out she's in my summer class, and she started flirting w/ me. Problem is, I didn't do anything about it. Just to let you know where I stand, I've never kissed a girl, or had a gf, and basically i'm starting at ground 0. I was a little worried of what other ppl in class would think. I asked her out, she said yes, but she flaked @ last minute, and now she's gone for the rest of summer. It's kind of frustrating, but I want to know how to fix this. She's really cute, 2 years older, and a model. Thanks for all your help.

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hey man! how u doing? i need to ask u for a favour...ive recently been picked to be in the issue to dubai's top bachelors magazine and been asked to answer some interesting questions...now the audience mainly being women, i wanted to answer these questions so tht the reader actually enjoys reading it and I show a higher value instead of a boring interview that answers the questions for the sake they were asked. If you can help that would be great!

here are the questions:

1. Your pet peeve:

2. Your quirkiest habit:

3. What is the first thing you notice in a girl/guy?

4. Turn-ons:

5. Turn-offs:

6. You like to read books/newspapers/etc about:

7. When you’re down or feeling low, you turn to…

8. Your style icon:

9. An item of clothing you can't stand seeing on the opposite sex:

10. Your ideal holiday spot:

11. If you were an animal you’d be a…

12. If you went from riches to rags overnight, name three things you would do or buy:

13. An ideal night-out for you:

14. Your biggest dating disaster:

15. Your dream job:

16. The weirdest thing you've seen in Dubai…

17. The motto you live by…

18. Overnight camping trip or Burjuman Shopping Spree?

19. A day with your computer or a day at the pool?

20. One person (dead or alive) you would love to have dinner with...


thanks

Sunny D


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Hey man,

This is a text game field report and I need your analysis on it, because I feel there's a huge shit tests going on here. So I was trying to be more playful than usual, so it might startle her a little bit. So I saw her status on Facebook, it was like "boredom, fear and laziness is our worst enemy, don't let them take our life. Who's the boss??". So I got something in my mind and texted her:

Me: "Hey boss, how've you been? Now because u're the boss, I want to apply a position as a manager. I can offer fun, courage and dilligence (like change all of the negative emotions on her status) plus crazy times. Which one do you pick? ;)

HB: Haha, so funny, well I don't open a job vacancy for a manager but I do have for an office boy, u want it? Haha.. XD

Me: No, I only want the manager position. Manager is a safer position, because if anything happens to me, people will still care. But if I'm an office boy, you can call me whenever you want and if you do something to me, people wouldn't care. ;) What were u doing for ur vacation? I'm doing cycling with my friends,etc, a lot of fun stuff, it was just crazy. :)

HB: Haha... U wish :P Well, I shop for my college needs, hanging out with friends, so far so good, haha. Where'd you cycling? Still in your hometown??
a
Then I told her more about my vacation. Then she didn't respond. I don't care and leave her for 1 day.

The next day, I texted her again:

Me: Hey boss, I'm back to Bali now, so I can do my job again. Remember, I only offer 2 things: fun and crazy times. The other 2 were only for yesterday, and I didn't get any confirmation text, so it automatically self-destruct. Now u got 1 more chance before I offer it to somebody else!! ;) (credit to Savoy)

HB: Haha, ok I choose fun..

Me: OK, If u choose fun,go to X mall tomorrow around 3 A.M, be sure to wear something casual (short denim and tanktop would do), and cook ur own food. I'll surprise you, or are u a girl that don't like a surprise?;)

HB: Well, I do like surprise, but if it's from you, I must be careful.. :P I can't do it tomorrow, I got something else to do. What about the crazy times?

Me: well, for the crazy times, depends on what day you're free, I got different ideas.;) When are you free?

(2 hours later)

HB: Sorry for late reply, well Grace is still in her hometown, maybe I'll just meet you guys after she got home, haha (she confessed that she wants to go out with me, but not alone, she's an awkward girl with the boys, so I just understand that she's nervous and play social circle game just for her) Btw, did you called me with a private number?

Me: Who says that I'm going to go out with you alone? I don't go out with a girl who might want something from me, you're too dangerous, maybe more dangerous than me. :) No "HB", I'll bring my friends, u bring ur friends too. I just feel the more people we bring the better it would be. Don't u feel so? :) So, is Thursday okay for you? And more importantly, are you adventurous? :) (credit to you!!)

Me: Oh, I almost forgot 1 thing. No, I didn't call you with a private number. I got calls like that too often, and it's creepy. So why would I do that? Got it? ;)

HB: Ok2, I'm sorry, hehe ;). Yeah, it was really creepy, so I didn't pick it up. And what's more creepy is, after that 1 of my friend called and asked me if something happened to me. I was confused, and think that there's somebody who'll terrorize me. haha... quite creepy. Then I replied, what did u mean? and because he/she (IDK, she just mentioned a friend, not specific,) didn't reply and I was curious, I called and he told me that he got bad feelings about her and usually is right, n he just wanted to make sure that I'm OK. Whew.. Annoying. How'd you feel if u're on a situation like that? Sometimes I got creeped out, u know. *snivel* 0_o

Me: Don't cry. I got times like that too. If you really are paying atention to my stories, u'll remember, which I'm sure u will because u're a pretty good listener.;) I'll tell u later about it. I'm still at the church now, be good and wait, "HB" ;)

HB: Hey2, I didn't really cry. I'm just telling u a story. haha... Well, I'm also going to get my dinner. Well, u're at the church? Is Kevin still there? He told me that he'd go to Switzerland to study? Has he departed? (Kevin's her schoolmate)

I really meant it, so I ignored her and called her 3 hours later. She didn't pick up, I texted her (as usually I do to make her comply)

Me: Hey HB, have u finished eating? It's just a lot of exciting things happeed today. Call me back if you've finished, ok? ;)

HB: Sorry steve, I'm not really in the mood to talk to you right now, so sorry, maybe another time. Bye!

I just thought that she's not in the mood (she's moody, she's confessed to me), so I just decided to text her the next day.

so the next day:

Me: Hey Miss Moody, how's your mood? Don't worry about it, just stay positive and believe that it'll over soon. Like yesterday, I was so tired after the trip back to here (u know what happened if I'm tired) and I was so in bad mood. I just believe that it'll be over soon guess what?? A cute girl texted me while I was at the church and told me about how scared she was, because somebody called her with a private ID, and she cried in the text!! It was so funny and my bad mood were gone. I kinda like her because she's a little bit spoiled, but I was at the church so I told her to wait. I don't know if she's still scared and crying. :P Maybe I'll just call her later and give her amazing and fun times. :P LOL.. :D Ever experienced a day like that, "HB"?

This one shocked me

HB: Hahaha... You're such an overexaggetor guy, I'm not that scared. Sometimes I don't like telling stories to you, u just love to overexaggerate it, and IDK, I don't like it, ur mouth is too sweet, haha.. no offense, ok? :P And it's not because of my mood, my mood is normal, just what I think about you, and I hope you don't get offended, ok? :P And it's not because u're at the church and replied my text so long and I got bored, I understand. and I wasn't in bad mood either, just feel like I don't want to talk you. Hehe, ok, bye! ^^

(30 minutes later)
I thought it's a shit test, so I dared to stay cool and didn't take it too seriously

Me: I just got back from the shop, bought some mags, sorry for late reply.:) Hahaha... My mouth is too sweet? Maybe I can sell it like a candy. How much do you think I should sell it? 1$ per bite? :P That's the art of story telling, girl. I think that's one of the most important skills to have, besides it's also on of my passions to be an actor or a story teller. This is how I talk, not just to you, but to everybody. I say things what they deserve, I take away what they don't. So u better get used to it. OK? :) Well, if u can't take any jokes, I'll just be a serious, boring guy, who got a face like this ---> *angry face*. Haha.. for late texts, I know now u hate me so much, u won't get bothered by it. ;) So Nemesis, let me guess, u're online at home?

Then she didn't reply.....

So Adam, what I want to ask you are:
1) What did I do wrong?
2) Should I apologize and change my character?
3) What should I do now (how many days should I wait before contacting her again,etc)?

It's my sticking points for now, mate. Any advice?? Thanks a million!!

Best pal,
Steven ;)

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Hey man,

This is a text game field report and I need your analysis on it, because I feel there's a huge shit tests going on here. So I was trying to be more playful than usual, so it might startle her a little bit. So I saw her status on Facebook, it was like "boredom, fear and laziness is our worst enemy, don't let them take our life. Who's the boss??". So I got something in my mind and texted her:

Me: "Hey boss, how've you been? Now because u're the boss, I want to apply a position as a manager. I can offer fun, courage and dilligence (like change all of the negative emotions on her status) plus crazy times. Which one do you pick? ;)

HB: Haha, so funny, well I don't open a job vacancy for a manager but I do have for an office boy, u want it? Haha.. XD

Me: No, I only want the manager position. Manager is a safer position, because if anything happens to me, people will still care. But if I'm an office boy, you can call me whenever you want and if you do something to me, people wouldn't care. ;) What were u doing for ur vacation? I'm doing cycling with my friends,etc, a lot of fun stuff, it was just crazy. :)

HB: Haha... U wish :P Well, I shop for my college needs, hanging out with friends, so far so good, haha. Where'd you cycling? Still in your hometown??
a
Then I told her more about my vacation. Then she didn't respond. I don't care and leave her for 1 day.

The next day, I texted her again:

Me: Hey boss, I'm back to Bali now, so I can do my job again. Remember, I only offer 2 things: fun and crazy times. The other 2 were only for yesterday, and I didn't get any confirmation text, so it automatically self-destruct. Now u got 1 more chance before I offer it to somebody else!! ;) (credit to Savoy)

HB: Haha, ok I choose fun..

Me: OK, If u choose fun,go to X mall tomorrow around 3 A.M, be sure to wear something casual (short denim and tanktop would do), and cook ur own food. I'll surprise you, or are u a girl that don't like a surprise?;)

HB: Well, I do like surprise, but if it's from you, I must be careful.. :P I can't do it tomorrow, I got something else to do. What about the crazy times?

Me: well, for the crazy times, depends on what day you're free, I got different ideas.;) When are you free?

(2 hours later)

HB: Sorry for late reply, well Grace is still in her hometown, maybe I'll just meet you guys after she got home, haha (she confessed that she wants to go out with me, but not alone, she's an awkward girl with the boys, so I just understand that she's nervous and play social circle game just for her) Btw, did you called me with a private number?

Me: Who says that I'm going to go out with you alone? I don't go out with a girl who might want something from me, you're too dangerous, maybe more dangerous than me. :) No "HB", I'll bring my friends, u bring ur friends too. I just feel the more people we bring the better it would be. Don't u feel so? :) So, is Thursday okay for you? And more importantly, are you adventurous? :) (credit to you!!)

Me: Oh, I almost forgot 1 thing. No, I didn't call you with a private number. I got calls like that too often, and it's creepy. So why would I do that? Got it? ;)

HB: Ok2, I'm sorry, hehe ;). Yeah, it was really creepy, so I didn't pick it up. And what's more creepy is, after that 1 of my friend called and asked me if something happened to me. I was confused, and think that there's somebody who'll terrorize me. haha... quite creepy. Then I replied, what did u mean? and because he/she (IDK, she just mentioned a friend, not specific,) didn't reply and I was curious, I called and he told me that he got bad feelings about her and usually is right, n he just wanted to make sure that I'm OK. Whew.. Annoying. How'd you feel if u're on a situation like that? Sometimes I got creeped out, u know. *snivel* 0_o

Me: Don't cry. I got times like that too. If you really are paying atention to my stories, u'll remember, which I'm sure u will because u're a pretty good listener.;) I'll tell u later about it. I'm still at the church now, be good and wait, "HB" ;)

HB: Hey2, I didn't really cry. I'm just telling u a story. haha... Well, I'm also going to get my dinner. Well, u're at the church? Is Kevin still there? He told me that he'd go to Switzerland to study? Has he departed? (Kevin's her schoolmate)

I really meant it, so I ignored her and called her 3 hours later. She didn't pick up, I texted her (as usually I do to make her comply)

Me: Hey HB, have u finished eating? It's just a lot of exciting things happeed today. Call me back if you've finished, ok? ;)

HB: Sorry steve, I'm not really in the mood to talk to you right now, so sorry, maybe another time. Bye!

I just thought that she's not in the mood (she's moody, she's confessed to me), so I just decided to text her the next day.

so the next day:

Me: Hey Miss Moody, how's your mood? Don't worry about it, just stay positive and believe that it'll over soon. Like yesterday, I was so tired after the trip back to here (u know what happened if I'm tired) and I was so in bad mood. I just believe that it'll be over soon guess what?? A cute girl texted me while I was at the church and told me about how scared she was, because somebody called her with a private ID, and she cried in the text!! It was so funny and my bad mood were gone. I kinda like her because she's a little bit spoiled, but I was at the church so I told her to wait. I don't know if she's still scared and crying. :P Maybe I'll just call her later and give her amazing and fun times. :P LOL.. :D Ever experienced a day like that, "HB"?

This one shocked me

HB: Hahaha... You're such an overexaggetor guy, I'm not that scared. Sometimes I don't like telling stories to you, u just love to overexaggerate it, and IDK, I don't like it, ur mouth is too sweet, haha.. no offense, ok? :P And it's not because of my mood, my mood is normal, just what I think about you, and I hope you don't get offended, ok? :P And it's not because u're at the church and replied my text so long and I got bored, I understand. and I wasn't in bad mood either, just feel like I don't want to talk you. Hehe, ok, bye! ^^

(30 minutes later)
I thought it's a shit test, so I dared to stay cool and didn't take it too seriously

Me: I just got back from the shop, bought some mags, sorry for late reply.:) Hahaha... My mouth is too sweet? Maybe I can sell it like a candy. How much do you think I should sell it? 1$ per bite? :P That's the art of story telling, girl. I think that's one of the most important skills to have, besides it's also on of my passions to be an actor or a story teller. This is how I talk, not just to you, but to everybody. I say things what they deserve, I take away what they don't. So u better get used to it. OK? :) Well, if u can't take any jokes, I'll just be a serious, boring guy, who got a face like this ---> *angry face*. Haha.. for late texts, I know now u hate me so much, u won't get bothered by it. ;) So Nemesis, let me guess, u're online at home?

Then she didn't reply.....

So Adam, what I want to ask you are:
1) What did I do wrong?
2) Should I apologize and change my character?
3) What should I do now (how many days should I wait before contacting her again,etc)?

It's my sticking points for now, mate. Any advice?? Thanks a million!!

Best pal,
Steven ;)

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Hey man,

This is a text game field report and I need your analysis on it, because I feel there's a huge shit tests going on here. So I was trying to be more playful than usual, so it might startle her a little bit. So I saw her status on Facebook, it was like "boredom, fear and laziness is our worst enemy, don't let them take our life. Who's the boss??". So I got something in my mind and texted her:

Me: "Hey boss, how've you been? Now because u're the boss, I want to apply a position as a manager. I can offer fun, courage and dilligence (like change all of the negative emotions on her status) plus crazy times. Which one do you pick? ;)

HB: Haha, so funny, well I don't open a job vacancy for a manager but I do have for an office boy, u want it? Haha.. XD

Me: No, I only want the manager position. Manager is a safer position, because if anything happens to me, people will still care. But if I'm an office boy, you can call me whenever you want and if you do something to me, people wouldn't care. ;) What were u doing for ur vacation? I'm doing cycling with my friends,etc, a lot of fun stuff, it was just crazy. :)

HB: Haha... U wish :P Well, I shop for my college needs, hanging out with friends, so far so good, haha. Where'd you cycling? Still in your hometown??
a
Then I told her more about my vacation. Then she didn't respond. I don't care and leave her for 1 day.

The next day, I texted her again:

Me: Hey boss, I'm back to Bali now, so I can do my job again. Remember, I only offer 2 things: fun and crazy times. The other 2 were only for yesterday, and I didn't get any confirmation text, so it automatically self-destruct. Now u got 1 more chance before I offer it to somebody else!! ;) (credit to Savoy)

HB: Haha, ok I choose fun..

Me: OK, If u choose fun,go to X mall tomorrow around 3 A.M, be sure to wear something casual (short denim and tanktop would do), and cook ur own food. I'll surprise you, or are u a girl that don't like a surprise?;)

HB: Well, I do like surprise, but if it's from you, I must be careful.. :P I can't do it tomorrow, I got something else to do. What about the crazy times?

Me: well, for the crazy times, depends on what day you're free, I got different ideas.;) When are you free?

(2 hours later)

HB: Sorry for late reply, well Grace is still in her hometown, maybe I'll just meet you guys after she got home, haha (she confessed that she wants to go out with me, but not alone, she's an awkward girl with the boys, so I just understand that she's nervous and play social circle game just for her) Btw, did you called me with a private number?

Me: Who says that I'm going to go out with you alone? I don't go out with a girl who might want something from me, you're too dangerous, maybe more dangerous than me. :) No "HB", I'll bring my friends, u bring ur friends too. I just feel the more people we bring the better it would be. Don't u feel so? :) So, is Thursday okay for you? And more importantly, are you adventurous? :) (credit to you!!)

Me: Oh, I almost forgot 1 thing. No, I didn't call you with a private number. I got calls like that too often, and it's creepy. So why would I do that? Got it? ;)

HB: Ok2, I'm sorry, hehe ;). Yeah, it was really creepy, so I didn't pick it up. And what's more creepy is, after that 1 of my friend called and asked me if something happened to me. I was confused, and think that there's somebody who'll terrorize me. haha... quite creepy. Then I replied, what did u mean? and because he/she (IDK, she just mentioned a friend, not specific,) didn't reply and I was curious, I called and he told me that he got bad feelings about her and usually is right, n he just wanted to make sure that I'm OK. Whew.. Annoying. How'd you feel if u're on a situation like that? Sometimes I got creeped out, u know. *snivel* 0_o

Me: Don't cry. I got times like that too. If you really are paying atention to my stories, u'll remember, which I'm sure u will because u're a pretty good listener.;) I'll tell u later about it. I'm still at the church now, be good and wait, "HB" ;)

HB: Hey2, I didn't really cry. I'm just telling u a story. haha... Well, I'm also going to get my dinner. Well, u're at the church? Is Kevin still there? He told me that he'd go to Switzerland to study? Has he departed? (Kevin's her schoolmate)

I really meant it, so I ignored her and called her 3 hours later. She didn't pick up, I texted her (as usually I do to make her comply)

Me: Hey HB, have u finished eating? It's just a lot of exciting things happeed today. Call me back if you've finished, ok? ;)

HB: Sorry steve, I'm not really in the mood to talk to you right now, so sorry, maybe another time. Bye!

I just thought that she's not in the mood (she's moody, she's confessed to me), so I just decided to text her the next day.

so the next day:

Me: Hey Miss Moody, how's your mood? Don't worry about it, just stay positive and believe that it'll over soon. Like yesterday, I was so tired after the trip back to here (u know what happened if I'm tired) and I was so in bad mood. I just believe that it'll be over soon guess what?? A cute girl texted me while I was at the church and told me about how scared she was, because somebody called her with a private ID, and she cried in the text!! It was so funny and my bad mood were gone. I kinda like her because she's a little bit spoiled, but I was at the church so I told her to wait. I don't know if she's still scared and crying. :P Maybe I'll just call her later and give her amazing and fun times. :P LOL.. :D Ever experienced a day like that, "HB"?

This one shocked me

HB: Hahaha... You're such an overexaggetor guy, I'm not that scared. Sometimes I don't like telling stories to you, u just love to overexaggerate it, and IDK, I don't like it, ur mouth is too sweet, haha.. no offense, ok? :P And it's not because of my mood, my mood is normal, just what I think about you, and I hope you don't get offended, ok? :P And it's not because u're at the church and replied my text so long and I got bored, I understand. and I wasn't in bad mood either, just feel like I don't want to talk you. Hehe, ok, bye! ^^

(30 minutes later)
I thought it's a shit test, so I dared to stay cool and didn't take it too seriously

Me: I just got back from the shop, bought some mags, sorry for late reply.:) Hahaha... My mouth is too sweet? Maybe I can sell it like a candy. How much do you think I should sell it? 1$ per bite? :P That's the art of story telling, girl. I think that's one of the most important skills to have, besides it's also on of my passions to be an actor or a story teller. This is how I talk, not just to you, but to everybody. I say things what they deserve, I take away what they don't. So u better get used to it. OK? :) Well, if u can't take any jokes, I'll just be a serious, boring guy, who got a face like this ---> *angry face*. Haha.. for late texts, I know now u hate me so much, u won't get bothered by it. ;) So Nemesis, let me guess, u're online at home?

Then she didn't reply.....

So Adam, what I want to ask you are:
1) What did I do wrong?
2) Should I apologize and change my character?
3) What should I do now (how many days should I wait before contacting her again,etc)?

It's my sticking points for now, mate. Any advice?? Thanks a million!!

Best pal,
Steven ;)

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Adam,

thanks in advance....

Went up to a HB7 the other night at a bar - she was all alone, I had a great opening line cause I knew she was young. I'm 38 but most people put me at around 30-32.

We got along great, I was charming, funny, etc...she turned out to be 21.

Anyway, I leave, give her my number and tell her "if you feel like I'm not one of the coolest guys you've met in quite a while, don't call."

She texted me that night, texted me all day long on the 4th and when I proposed I meet up with her (she said she got into a fight with her best friend and was "all alone at home - I thought it was an invite in disguise) she said, not tonight, but how about tomorrow? I said that sounded good, I'm a teacher and I'm off for the summer.

She texted the next night and said: "I can't hang tonight. I am sorry. maybe tues. I have an early class tomorrow and a test I forgot about. sorry."

I responded, "No worries - school is very important. :)"

It's tuesday night, she didn't contact me - what should I do next? I'm really not stressed at all, but would definitely like to get with this one - she's way cute and what can I say, her being 21 is extra-hot.


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Dear Adam,
I'm a newbie in desperate need of some help from a pro. I'll try to make my story brief and I'd really appreciate it if you can get me out of this devastating situation.

So I've been running my little novice game on this girl, HB9 (IMO), number closed and kiss closed after 3 dates. My game basically consists of some cocky funny plus lots of negs, trying to set up a frame that she needs me and I'm in control.

An example of what I do:
[After kiss-close, via text]
Girl: Why'd you wanna kiss me?
Me: Cuz you look like your sister. I've been into her for a long time.
Girl: Haha go for her if you don't want me.
Me: Ahh she's on vacation so I guess I'm gonna have to make do with you for the time being.
Girl: Haha (blah blah blah)

Things went fine until after the fourth date, when I texted her and the problem began. It seems she's using the neg thing to fire back at me.
[Via text]
Girl: Honestly I'm not missing you for even one second. Try harder
Me: I hate trying. Take it or leave it
Girl: It seems you didn't wanna leave me today
Me: I just thought it'd be cruel to
Girl: I told you I didn't need you, I don't mind you leaving me ok? It was you who hit on me first
Me: K girl you're starting to sound more interesting

I was a little startled by that sudden attack but figured it was a shit test so couple of days later I texted her again. This one went worse

Me: So any plans today?
Girl: Lots of them. Coffee, lunch, movies, games, piano lesson... But I'll be at {restaurant where she has lunch, damn long name} if you wanna see me for a while. Miss me huh?
Me: I was bored. Just thought a talk should be fun.
Girl: That's not enough. If you don't miss me I won't see you.
Me: Are you gonna be with your friends?
Girl: My group of friends yeah. we're hanging out the whole day. You still haven't answered my question.
Me: Cuz I don't wanna lie :))
Girl: It's ok you don't have to say something to please me.

(I thought this was the time to take one step back and build some comfort so I said:)

Me: Yeah I guess I miss you. A bit. Kind of. But I can't see you today, I'm really not comfortable with your friends around.
Girl: Haha that's exactly what I wanna hear. Listen there's no reason for me to see you if you say you miss me. It makes me feel guilty.
Me: Guess I'll see you later then
Girl: See ya. Can't really text you now anyway.

Ok now I'm really confused. Is this just another shit test or did she lose interest in me? Did I just get gamed by a girl?

AFC Adam I can't thank you enough if you can:
1) Break it down and tell me what I did wrong
2) Tell me what's gonna happen next (she'll dump me, she'll come back a few days later...)
3) Give me some guides of what to do next to get out of this shit.

You don't have to do all three but if you do it'd be much appreciated. Any further advices or general tips with this girl would be very nice.

Please note that she's already got a boyfriend and we're Asians so the ASD could be a little tough to take down.

Thank you,
Dicksaplenty


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Hi Adam

Ill try get thru this quick as poss

sooo...........
I been workin at ma office for about 4 years, and still havent plucked up the courage to ask out a girl/number close a girl who works in a different department for almost 3 yrs. Yes im a looser lol Ive been in the should i ? shouldnt i state for sooooo long!! arghhhhhhhh

Now she work on the same floor close to my desk so i see her everyday, shes just not in the same department so theres no real valid reason for me to go over....
I dont know if she single or not, we dont ever have same breaks ect and If i do say anything shell know am just tryin to hit on her.

I know this is a bit different to club or street game, and proberly not even a good idea esp as we work in the same building on the same floor....but how could i go about an approach? or to even break the ice, im sick of just blank glances when our eyes meet. She prob thinks am a weirdo lol
Should i just let it be (?
What can i say or do ?

Plzzzzz help me

Thanks Cal


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adam, I need tips on how to follow up after direct, Im in a mood that when Im in a party or anything like that I end up seeing one or two girls that really interest me, that I'd like to befriend, have some beers, hang out some other day.. and Im trying direct(if anything)
I don't have much trouble with AA, chatting, but its just that they go auto-bitch shield/barely answering/ignoring then its hard to make a conversation... how should I do it?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Dear AFC Adam

I have a chick iv been gaming now for around 2 and a half years(sounds ridiculus I know but it's due to long distance) and over the course of that period iv seen her only three times. I'm a strong believer in the whole scarsity and abundance theory. Recently she was struggling to tell me something on the phone and she was sober. She said age couldn't explain what she wanted to say and said she would fond it easy to tx me...so she did, the tx read something along theblines of "I love you"

I really like this girl but I don't know how to deal with it as I can't say I'm not feeling that deep level of emotions within myself towards her . But she makes me happier than any other chick iv had since learning pua. That's why iv put in these time bridges with her . I'm not gonna just tell her I love her for her reassurance because I believe a girl looses respect for you once they know the games over and they have you exclusivly.

What's your input Adam? your time on Reading this is deeply appreciated thanks

Hey Patranova,

This one can be really deep. The simple question to ask yourself is do YOU love her? If you do then do something about it! If you don't then you need to let her go. It really is that simple.

One of my biggest mottos is to leave someone off better than you found them. For whatever reason she has developed these deep feelings from you and it is not fair for you to string her along if you're not willing to reciprocate those feelings. It should be black and white, either you do want to be with her and have that connection or you don't. Don't leave a grey area because grey areas where things are ambiguous is when people get hurt.

I know it is tough to make a decision and no one should tell you which one to choose, this is all up to you. Good luck, mate.

Adam


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hey adam whats good!!
I saw your under 21 vid and heard you say that you let people sarge with you if you bring from 5 to 10 women. If your sarging in the ct, ny, ma, area i would totally bring at least 5 hot chicks to sarge and have a good time with my second favorite pua (next to me of course(:) let me know if you will be down and I'll send you my email.

peace
Jake

p.s.
I love foreign women!!

Hey Sangoma3,

I'm in the NYC area often but it is to run bootcamps and seminars so I don't really get time to go out just to party. Cheers for the invite mate!


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