is vastly underestimated IMO. You lead the men, you get the women because it's about as alpha as it gets I would think. I go out alone & much of my game has become walking around opening dudes & using them to spring board off of. It also just seems like you are the life of the party just being social with everyone.

Dudes are easy as hell to open too, as most are very beta's & especially if they see you open or even just have the balls to confidently speak to a girl before you open them. All you have to do is comment on how hot some girl is when you open & that pretty much will get you in a conversation with them & quickly disarm them because they know you aren't gay.

If you have a confident & fun bravado talking about women or they have seen you try, even if not successfully, most seem to latch on to me thinking IMO maybe I can help them get a women. I'll even offer to wing them if they need help distracting an obstacle after we chat a bit, although most pussy out or are to proud to ask me to open so I never have to put much work in. Most of these chodes have such poor body language all you have to be is very comfortable have great be non reactive look cool & lock in. Once they start reacting to you women in my experience really start noticing.

This weekend I specifically opened & made casual conversation with a guy that looked like a body builder. Probably had 70 lbs of muscle on me good looking guy, had a girl & buddy with him. Kind of guy that gets lots of attention from women but doesnt recognize body language. I just leaned back & conveyed I was the cooler of the the 2 of us while he made a scene & exaggeratedly laughed at my jokes, & I looked around & could see girls from all over checking me out.

Everywhere I looked I would see about 4 sets of eyes looking at me, but almost always out the corner of their eyes while they were standing or siting at angles away from me & they would quickly just dart their eyes away from me when I scanned by. Would be hard to catch if there is only one but when you see 3 or 4 at a time doing it in unison every where you look you know you are doing something right. Probably wouldn't have even noticed otherwise.

Most of these women I find make it very available for me to talk to them later by giving me long looks or even open me at some point later. The rest of the time many of these guys I meet will introduce me to girls they know I think sometimes to show they know "cool" guys, or I suspect some of those girls make them introduce them or just come over and say hey to that guy they know & pawn off them to get intro me to which makes it everything really easy. Lot of times I'll in turn say, this is a cool guy & pump him up giving him value to come off to the girl like Im the judge.

I walk into bars I have done this in a lot now and many times guys run over to me or slap me on the back when I walk by or wave at me or point at me as I walk by & it makes for a big scene that immediately pumps my state & gives me lots of social power in the bar. Everyone should practice game on getting just as good with guys too IMO.

good read.

i think this is often what separates the pua's from the mpuas. gaming guys seems like its easy, but in my opinion its harder than gaming girls. the reason you need to do it is because in may social situations gaming guys will make gaming the girls much easier.

one of my favorite things to do is look for a guy talking to two girls and just open them with "look at this guy, what a pimp!". the guy will like you and then the girls will start to like you. now you just figure out which one he is gaming, and you help him out (ex. by occupying the the other girl so he can isolate)

someimtes i'll even just go by a guy who talking to a girl, and i'll go right up to them and say "this guy right here, i don't know him, but i love him. he seems really cool". it's really funny how well this stuff works. in return i've had these guys bring girls up to me. it's almost like you are subcomminucating the fact that you will help him out with what you can do, if he will help you out with what he can do.

caveat:
it takes a lot of energy to do this kinda gaming. i can't do it all the time, but i always make an effort if i have the energy.

Seeking a reaction from others is a bad path to start on.

As for befriending and leading guys, go right on ahead.

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Good advice to remember. I remember pretty much that exact statement on Blueprint decode (which I have the highest opinion of as a program of any out there), & the reasoning behind it. I think TD said if you started trying people would sense you were seeking their reaction & you would be a social A-hole.

I didn't start going out with that attitude to make others react which is why I guess it's been successful, although I have been experimenting more recently as you analyse it for yourself what is going on & the tendency is to try to break it down to make sure it happens each time out. Same with state I guess when it 1st clicked in just how important it was to game.

Mostly I just go out looking to have fun interactions though & be a cool popular guy at the bar which I never was before & good things started happening when I did. Maybe that is the attidude that should sum it up, & I've got my level of comfort and ease at a point where it's hard to be more comfortable in the interaction than I am which is probably a better way to say what to concentrate on.

I just try to open anyone around me now because I've found there are great experiences to be taken from all. Probably the better lesson. This weekend for instance I had the most interesting conversation I have had in any bar with a stranger with a 49 year old dude just chatting about life in general. He was the 1st person I talked to there & enjoyed it so much I sat there for 2 hours & didn't even worry about sarging for the 1st time in monthes. Funny thing is we looked like we were having fun because we WERE & an attractive women in her 20's that worked there & was off having some drinks & knew him came over I'm pretty sure just to learn about me cause she immediatly pawned off of him asking who I was. Key is to just have fun.

fantastic post dude.

Since I have heard the word PUA about month month ago and since i got on this forum I have tripled my actions in 2 areas.
1.going out with my female friends
2.going out alone and starting with opening of men

As someone says num.2 can be more difficult for some people, but it is a piece of cake for me as living in 5 countries, going through 3-4 careers, i can pretty much relate to a mongolian herb collector.

I´d like to only point to one danger. When getting involved in an interesting conversation with a bloke, I ended up totally trashed a few times, and when I am so drunk, I can´t talk to a girl anymore as none is at my ¨intellectual¨level.
I know it sounds weird, but I do start talking like a machine when i am drunk and girls are usually not up to my speed.

befriending other alphas is key imo in your quest to becoming a MPUA

This is the best advice I have ever read on sarging solo. It should be placed in a section on sarging solo.

Mad props PUADave.

Mad props to PUAdave.

One of the key characteristics of the alpha male is to be seen as the leader of men. By opening sets of guys in a venue. You're not only building social proof but displaying that key trait of the Alpha guy. If you can get to a point where you're forward and backward merging the guys and gals from the different sets in the venue then you've got it licked.

There was a guy at a party the other night who was doing precisely this. He was sarging alone, but I had to give him credit for his style. He was having pictures taken with everyone like he was some kind of superstar. If you guys get to this level then that superstar will be you. The only thing he was doing was just introducing himself and then introducing other people he'd met like oh you have to meet this wonderful people. He was raising everyone's value whilst raising his own ten fold. All very simple, no one was rejecting him. Ok he wasn't staying in some sets very long but he just sarged the whole place dry. Was great to see in person.

Admittedly for me, it does take a lot of energy, and you need some guts to begin doing it. Once you start the snowball though it's easy. Once one or two sets fall under your control, everyone else will follow as no one wants to be seen as rejecting the life and soul of the party well unless they're a complete jerk and in which case everyone else would shun them as no one wants a party pooper.

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