I'm brand new three weeks into pickup. My main focus is frame building and inner game, therefore I can't refer to myself as AFC (even if I really am, its not my reality). I am really enthusiastic. I was so painfully shy that I didn't start out in pickup doing approaches. I just worked on the frame. I got so into it that I would intentionally create absurd postures body language, movements and what not. I fostered the I don't give a F*** attitude to an extreme. Last night after I warmed up on a 2 set of HB7's I wanted to use as pawns for the HB9 party girl in the bar. The HB9 came and opened me and my wing up (alpha girl, wants alpha guy). I kept intentionally rolling of or blowing her out with over the top comments like "this place is boring I'm going go home screw my wing". I don't know but, it was working. She kept on coming back. My wing is not pua or afc he's like a natural but with comfort building style so we kind of complimented each other. She went so far as to come back with hb8 to try and make the pickup happen. My dumb friend mr. natural kept initiating them too fast ruining the attraction. I gave him a rough and ready lesson on this on our way home.

Does anyone know any resources for inner game and I mean only the best? Has anyone had success with this? It works so good in my daily life that attraction is created without approach a lot of times, or course I'm a good looking guy so that might help. In bars I take my swagger to new levels. Foster unpredictable behaviour run selfish asshole frames, no apologies. Am I doing this right sometimes I feel like neo in the matrix (the rules don't apply to me). I hate canned material, but will use the best quick routines. When I meet people and I'm in this frame one of two things happen, if they're alpha they try to frame bust. If not and they're female they are attracted and sometimes scared. This crap has saved my life to everyone who works to put together these materials God bless you. I'm enjoying life again and my confidence grows everday in every encouter. I know I sound cocky, cause I am I have to believe that or I lose the frame that makes things happen. Oh any comments on the above failed pickup are welcome, I should have brought mr. natural into the game before hand I know but other than that I am open.

Dire

you shouldn't call yourself an AFC. you go into a venue and think you're an AFC then you will be one trust me.

i go in believing that the best possible thing that can happen to a girl in a venue is for me to pickup on them. the rest are just wasting time with the AFC's in the place.

sounds like you're doing well, stand out, keep your frame tight, and the best attitude to have is "i don't care if i get the girl or not" ur fine in those areas wolfe

if u have an AFC wing, it's unfortunate but your frame should override his anyways so if anything it'll keep the attention on u. i would just try to teach him to occupy the obstacles so u can isolate your target when the timing is right.


only thing i would have done different is:

i would approach HB9 first, generate attraction. then excuse yourself to meet with your friends without a close. (she won't want u to leave but tell her you'll be back in a minute u just want to check on your friends. she'll be thinking about how much fun she was having while u were there and looking forward to you coming back).

from this point you go open the set with HB7 or w/e is available to use as a pawn. run game, build comfort and get them to move with u into your old HB9 set. build a jealousy plot. when HB9 gets mad neg her or say something clever, ("You like me don't you? you are getting so jealous right now!") she'll try to win u back, because after all u are the prize.

once the jealousy kicks in it's on for HB9. reward her IOI's with IOI's at some point you will switch your attention back to your HB9 and if you can get your wing to pickup HB7 so you can isolate your target again. jealousy is a strong motivator for women (men too for that matter).

this is very effective if u pull it off right. i accidentally did this to a HB8 on thursday night. i pulled her the week before and met at the same venue. i wasn't really interested in her but i wanted to have her there for social proofing and possibly a wing woman. i ran game on her and her friends then left to open up another set. once i brought the 2nd set back to the table she was furious. i honestly had no idea it was going to have that effect on her. i disarmed her and for the rest of the night she was like a little obedient puppy dog. she wouldn't leave my side. i didn't like the neediness it was a huge turnoff. i ended up just making out with her to get her to shut up and i told her i'd call her(i have no intention of calling her). but i saw first hand the power of the jealousy plot. i could have F-Closed that night. i guess i still could but i don't see myself calling her again. she got REALLY annoying towards the end of the night.


it's fun stuff though man. i usually go out with the motive of having a good time. the girls come. but after that night i woke up in the morning feeling better than i have in a very long time.

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How about if I wait six weeks to call. I could tell her I found her number while I was cleaning out my wallet, I can't remember where we met. I'll ask her what she looks like and then I'll ask her if we Fucked. How about that? Would that be money?

T-bag, no doubt a jealousy plot was the play with this girl. While we were outside and she was talking to my wing. I opened two other ug's just to test her interest. She immeadiately started charging the sarge and turned it very negative. At this point I was certain she had already chosen me and it was only matter of time and congruency. Anyway thanks for the tips. I wish pua gurus would focus on telling guys to constantly build frame and rebuild frame, not just push technique. So when I return to that venue I will bring females in tow not as pawns but second options or threesome play, why not.

I think when your frame solid your game is automatically solid even with less than stellar technique. Give em' hell, that is one hell of a good time,


Dire