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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:15 am 
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Long post, but proboly a similar situation for a lot of us. I need advice on this one guys, badly!!!

Most of you know me on here....havent posted lately but been around a long time. I consider myself a MPUA, having pulled 5 for 5 on a few occasions. I can pretty much do a pull for a SNL just about any night I want to. But at this point its like, been there done that. Great....now on to my situation.

Although I do very well on the pickup, im in a situation with a HB10 where im actually confused on how to handle it, so im looking for some advice from people outside the situation. Here goes....

I met HB10, who is a bartender, about 3 months back, she works at a place i go to a lot. After seeing her several times a week at her job, i eventually # closed. She had a BF so i wasnt really working it hard. Didnt know her too well either, she is a HB10 but didnt know what else she had to offer.

Two weeks ago she broke up with BF, and moved out - into her own apartment. So last sunday I invited her to come jet skiing, i told her she should bring a friend since it requires 3 to use the tube behind the ski. Sunday morning came and the friend was sleeping so me and her got in my car and headed out. Nice long 1.5 hour ride there was great for chating. We found a lot of stuf we had in common, it went well. That was until she said "Hey, "jim" just txt me....he is near where we are going jet skiing - he might meet up with us.". Now, i knew we needed 3 to tube, and figured that was why he was meeting us. And i didnt want to be like "no, he cant come!" She also said "u got to give me your opinion, he is kinda clingie....i think he likes me".

Well , we all met up and i realised "jim" is a guy i know from the bar she works at. He also met her just like i met her, at her job, and almost the exact same time we met. I also found out that he has basicly kissed her ass since she and her boyfriend broke up. Helping her move, putting together furniture, etc.

Jet skiing was fun, for all 3 of us.....we finished up, then left him (After she invited him to ride back to my car on the ski with us then we drive him to his car).

The next day i had dinner with HB10 and her rommmate. THen we went back to her place for a few mins. She met one of her girlfriends there, and they were talking about how tonight was girls night and they were going to this bar. I left her apartment then, realising i couldnt go to that same bar that they were going to girls night for.....stalkerish. But to make a long story short, a buddy called me, was going to that bar, and i wound up going. Txt her "hey a buddy is dragging me to xxx....is it good" she replyed then replyed again "u shoud come". When i got there i Didnt look for her. She found me, and i danced with her for 2 seconds....then I left her and walked around with my buddys to go get drinks. She then txt me 3 times in about 15 mins asking where at the bar, without me replying. Finally i replyed and told her where i was and imeadiatly she txt "on my way". This was an ioi. She is out on "girls night" and she txt me 3 times while she was ocupied with her girls wanting to come see more of me. At this point i knew i had some interest. This is undenieable.

So We hung for a bit at the bar then she invited me back to her place for beers with her and her friends. Went well, fun. The freinds all like me. Im in with the friends totally. Won them over.

A few days later i had an interview for a job at a bar, and actually got the job. They said they needed bartenders, so knowing HB10 was looking for another job, I talked her up to the boss and had her call for an interview. She got the job too. So basicly i got her a 2nd job, that she despritatly was looking for.

THe next night was tonight. We were sopose to go have a nice long dinner, but she got held up at work (confirmed). So we then changed dinner to a quick place by her house. No big deal. Then, as we get to the place to eat she tells me "jim" is coming to meet up with us. DAMIT! He gets there and she basicly spends about 65% of the time talking to him. Aparently they hang out a lot and had lunch at this place the other day. I was so pissed off, I didnt order food. I stayed about 15 mins then said i had to run to meet friends. Didnt show i was pissed off to them of cource.

So when i leave I go to this bar to meet my freinds. HB10's BFF happens to work at this bar and now that i know her, we chat. She tells me she thinks "jim" is annoying and like follows HB10 around and just wont leave them alone. She said lasst night the girls all went out...left their bf's home and HB10 brought jim, on a girls night. He got so annoying that BFF girl said "Go away man u r freakin us out". Funny. Then comes the kicker. Right after i finish talking to HB10's BFF, "jim" walks in. funny! Guess she made him leave. Nice. Makes me feel a little better.

Now tommorow, i need to go to the bar where me and HB10 work, im not working but need to be there (Work required grand opening). HB10 is working and "jim" is planing on showing up.

Sorry for the long post guys, but wanted to get it all straight. I need advice on how to handle tommorow at the bar, and what to do with this girl. Do i try to smother her like "jim" or should i just totally back away? Maybe be a little smart ass like if she asks me to hang out i say "y dont u just hang out with jim?".

Proboly the first time in 2 years i didnt know how to handle a situation.

Thanks in advance guys...and no one telling me about one-itus or anything like that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:30 am 
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Far off MPUA but no one else seems to be responding.

Don't act like Jim he sounds like a tool who has been friend zoned but is clinging on for dear life under the false illusion he is making progress.

Sounds like you and her are getting on well, maybe some subtle digs at Jim would work they will have to be damn sneaky. Like talking to her BFF and saying you think he is creepy and serial killer material (half joking but will lower her value in her eyes). Do that to enough people and everyone will start treating him like a weirdo stalker guy.

Maybe a couple of "That guy creeps me out he is always just like there" type comments.

As for the girl I would escalate like a mofo next time you are in a club, not sure how you are doing in terms of deep rapport (with the car ride etc probably quite well). But yar build attraction and go for really deep rapport. You want I have never told anyone this before type shizz.

At the moment I am concerned that even if she likes you, you are not making your intentions clear so could get friend zoned.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:35 am 
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Not a MPUA but:

Force a hand, and it will fight you

Don't say something smart like 'go hang out with Jim'. That sounds jealous. Maybe something sly like make a joke "I swear everytime I see you Jim's always on the scene haha, is he your boyfriend now?" "No? Could've fooled me :D"

Jim sounds like an AFC who has been friendzoned but milking her for all she's worth thinking he is gaining her interest, wouldn't bother worrying about him.


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Jim is a chode

You are a MPUA






'nuff said.


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pua? don´t know yet :)

jim is a ¨loser¨, but i perfectly understand how do you feel.
sometimes you do everything right and the girl still choses the loser...

I agree with the previous post that you are playing around too much with the possibility of ending up like a ¨friend¨....where´s your escalation?
you seem to be at the same place for a while now.
and where are ¨other women¨around you to put some pressure on your target?
aren´t you an alpha male? :)


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She has seen me meet, and many girls be attracted to me. Her friends love me. Pre-selection is not an issue.

Just needed an outside opinion. HB10's are tough creatures.

I agree with what a few of you said, thats what i was planning on doing. Just totally back wayyyy off. Maybe chill with her friends without her involved. Ill run the "man, is jim with you 24x7? Is he your boyfriend now?! lol"

Im going to play, calm, cool, and collected. Nothing barthers me, i never get mad, etc.....

Ill keep you guys posted on this one.

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Oh, and btw im begining to think he is a PUA. He just knows exactly how to handle being AMOG'd and such.

Im almost thinking it would be a good idea to get the guy to be friends with me, keep enemys closer -)

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Jim is a loser and I think she is just using him as a pawn. Its always an insane chess game with HB10's. I think you should use some reverse psychology and talk up Jim and say that they would be great together. If your out with them both chuk in a line like "u guys seem great for each other, wen r u going to go out?" I think that will destroy any relationship with Jim she has.

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I think you're too in your head for this one. What happened to you always just being fun and positive and going with the flow man?

I think it's time you let her game you, you've done enough work...

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I think you're too in your head for this one. What happened to you always just being fun and positive and going with the flow man?

I think it's time you let her game you, you've done enough work...
I agree.

John your over thinking it a bit buddy. Being distant distant distant can land you in the friendzone as well.

Have you slept with her yet? If not (which I'm assuming from the post) then its escalation time my friend. One of the most powerful ways to attract a woman is for it to get physical and then for you to be attentive to the feelings that brings (like buyers remorse) and aleviate those feelings. Sex+ Trust= Powerful emotional attraction

And for the sex part thats easy, knock down the aloof nature a notch and go get what you want :wink:


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Get it physical. Easy for a SNL, difficult for a HB10 thats not slutty!

Ill let u guys know how it goes tonight. Watch "jim" is on the forum, that would be great lol.

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Get it physical. Easy for a SNL, difficult for a HB10 thats not slutty!

Ill let u guys know how it goes tonight. Watch "jim" is on the forum, that would be great lol.

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Your just making it difficult man

Things tend to be as easy or difficult as we allow them to be, alter your perception to alter your results.


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kinoescalator What is your goal with this girl? Is it to sleep with her? Date her or what? Because its not very clear to what your goal here is. And why do you think an HB 10 is harder to deal with then any other girl? So what she is a 10. It doesn't matter. What matters is what your goal is with her and how you should go about going about it. On a side note I think you may be having a bit of one-tits with this girl. As you seem to be a bit head over heels for her.


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jurupa: Did u not read what i said "...and no one telling me about one-itus or anything like that. " I am going out with other girls as this HB10 situation is going on.

I just played it cool last night, went with a girl i know to the place. Of cource jim was there, but i played it cool. Jim wound up hanging out with us most of the night. I have nothing to worry about. After getting to know him, both me and the girl i brought know there is NO WAY she would get with this guy.

And HB10 txt me last night and this morning, im just playin the cool....never gets mad, stable successful guy. Will ask her to out later this week.

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Can't believe you let that fag on your jet ski.

Dude, great story. I have faith in you to get what you want and be a cool guy about it. I've definitely been in this situation before. I can't make a recommendation as to exactly how to tape Jim up in a box and put him on a train... but dude, he's hitting pretty high on the douche-o-meter.

Don't worry. She will soon tire of his lack-of-jet-ski-ness.


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