So I have been to quite a clubs and college parties, and I have this problem with my game. When I'm in the basement or dance room, the music is playing extremely loud. Whenever I approach a target or group, she/they can't hear what I'm saying and I can't hear what their saying too well.
Does anyone have any general method or advice on such a situation?

in the club sometimes, and at parties. you just gotta say efff the routine, and just hope you can kino well enough on the dance floor. If you wana do somethin else, take there hand and drag them to another place were it is quiet.

Dude, I really dont know if this is right or immoral, if works with everybody or just me.

What I do in loud parties (normally I prefer another kind os places to pickup...) is keep in the borders, away from the loud music, and Im habituated to approach quiet women, they're even waiting for someone to put them out of their own thoughts, and just have fun, that kind of girl are the most useful to one night stand for two reasons:

1. They're propably unhappy, and will easily try to find on sex a escape route to their own pain.
2. You bring value and a good vibe for her more easier. If you approach a full set of people having fun, you need to do more efforts to win the set, offering value and everything all you learned.

There always unhappy ladies in loud parties, they're the easy victims, just waiting for some wonderful guy to take them out of their personal hell (maybe YOU)

WOW, this is my evil post ever

Hope you dont try this at home! ahhahahha

Fu$$

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in the club sometimes, and at parties. you just gotta say efff the routine, and just hope you can kino well enough on the dance floor. If you wana do somethin else, take there hand and drag them to another place were it is quiet.

fussbird, I disagree. If u mean Women who are at a party that aren't having fun or unhappy to be there should be gamed. I would agree if you mean they're unhappy that they can't meet a great guy but cover it really well, and still have a great personality but are quiet at first. BUT if she's sitting in the dark corner at the party by herself with a corona and a frown I don't care if she's Salma Hayek I won't game her. A rule I go by before I approach which is usually true, is if a chick looks bored chances are she's boring.. and it's mutual with women when they see guys.

The energetic fun loving women at parties are usually the most open to game and the ones to invite you over to her friends if you mirror her energy level. but as people and Pua's high energy shouldn't be an option in most cases if not all.

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I made the mistake of being charming and handsome... I apologize

thanks for your opinions, I got a club trip coming up tommorow night. I'm going to try to read up on how to kino. I found this thing called the DiCarlo Kino Escalation Ladder and it seems to be pretty useful.

I partly agree with you Sprks, but I keep standing my words.

No way to explain it now... but Im studying some stuff on that, not as you imagine.

What I find is some link between a lack, hole and emptiness feeling whith our desire to search for easy pleasure (as sex is). Fun and high vibe chicks are strucked too, just in a different way.

When I get the whole concept I will bring to here a nice post. I will notice you.

Fu$$

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Nothing great will ever be achieved without great men, and men are great only if they are determined to be so.
- Charles de Gaulle

It's never too late to be who you might have been.
- George Eliot

kind of like to make up for lack their of.. women will wanna fuck to feel the void they currently have in their lives?

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I made the mistake of being charming and handsome... I apologize

Yup. The same way as we do.

All of those vices came from an erroneous sense of happiness (that happiness and pleasure are the same thing), we all make that mistakes cause we love ourselves, but it's a destructive self love.

The greatest example of all is the drug addict, loving himself so much, he wants to take away all the pain in his life using drugs, and we know how it ends. He destroys his life stupidly.

The two great points:
* We run away from pain and search from pleasure.
* Pleasure is not happiness. Pleasure is physical, happiness is spiritual.

This is not the issue of this topic, I will create one to discuss this on Pua Lounge.
This is really important to understand.

Fu$$

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Nothing great will ever be achieved without great men, and men are great only if they are determined to be so.
- Charles de Gaulle

It's never too late to be who you might have been.
- George Eliot