OK, we've all met them, we've all come across them... the HB10 who you and anyone with a dick (and most women) want to fuck 100 different ways for 100 days straight...

The problem is they now how attractive they are... and they play you, and everyone else for a fool...

How the fuck do you game them?

Ive known this paticular one for a few years now... but only in the last year or so have I really got to know her, but she is the master at leading you on...

I've tried everything i've learnt and experienced trying with her... but its constantly one step forward, two back... she winds me up something chronic!

And yes, i've tried walking and leaving it... but she jus comes back when your least expecting it... presses all the right buttons with you and you want it again... then you try, get all the IOI's, have a great time... think you've got it... and she pulls away at the last second!

You know she likes you... you make her laugh, she flirts, the sexual chemistry is sooo thick you can cut it with a knife... but you just can't make that break thru.

Then some good looking AFC comes along and she hops into bed with him and your left thinking WTF?!

Its sooo fustrating!

It's not oneitus or maybe it is? Im not in love with her or anything like that... and she hasn't LJBF'd me... and I can drop it and leave it... but then she comes back...

It's like a contest... where only she keeps winning... there must be some way of winning.

come on what do you do to get this type of girl?

You are making her the prize, when you show her little attention she chases you then you buckle and let her be in charge again. Be unaffected by her looks, I think the very fact you are calling her a 10 would suggest you have her on a pedestal (I have been out on average about 4 nights a week for a year and only seen one 10 and a couple of 9s).

But yar let her chase you and don't pussy out and think you have her when she comes after you, it is a test and you fail it as soon as you show you were playing games.

OK what you are saying makes perfect sense.

Its hard to bite the bullet though and completly stop showing interest in someone... the fear is that they are gonna think 'OK' and leave you alone altogether - and while that might actually be a good thing... no one wants to lose that interest... even if its not getting you where you want to be.

Does that make sense?

I was thinking I might call her out... and say something like: look stop the game playing, we both like eachother, we both want to see eachother... im gonna make it easy for you... im going to xxx at xxx time, if you want me be there, if you dont... lets move on...

What do you think? Or is that a really BAD idea?

Yup I understand it is damn hard to ignore a hot girl, because you are gonna be like shit what if she just never talks to me again. Don't worry man you gotta be willing to lose her before you will get her, hold your ground she will come to you. In the meantime get other options so it actually doesn't matter whether you get her or not.

As for calling her I wouldn't it puts her in charge, she could reply with hell no or something just so she can be in charge even if she does like you. My best advice would be game other women and let her come to you. THe other women will take the pressure off as you will genuinely be busy, this will also safeguard against reverting back and chasing her. Good luck bro

Have you tried cocky funny or speed seduction on her?
Have you studied SwinggCat's advice, especially about making yourself the prize?
You say you tried everything, but you didn't say what you tried, and I seriously don't believe you tried everything. What things have you studied and tried so far?

I'm in the same situation its killing me. Ive tried everything acted uninterested but she knows she is that good looking and she will always say that I want her everytym I speak to her. I don't know wat i can do either?!?!!?

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Fill your life with other women and things to do or else she will be like ok he is just trying to give me the silent SPAM. Again don't chase them or anything if you run into them fair enough but chatting doesn't really factor into having them chase you.

Get other women you will naturally see/speak to the girls you have put on pedestals less and stop chasing them so they will become interested. [/b]

I'm new to the forum but unfortunately I'm not new to this sort of frustration. Here's my take:

You've already done half the work - if you have realized that there is that much sexual chemistry then she probably has also realized it. But as an HB, she probably also knows that she can build that sort of attraction in a bunch of other guys. But now that you've given her a taste of your sexual vibe (albeit not completely), you have to not only step away and play her push/pull, but also let her know that you (not she) are the prize.

I like the advice about seeing other women. Even if these other women are just friends, if this HB sees that she has to compete with other women for your affection she will realize that she has to go farther than simply flirting in order to hold your attention. This doesn't mean ignoring the HB - you want to give her some attention, but then show her that that attention can be lost. For example, you could have one of your other female friends call you while you're with the HB. You flirt on the phone for a few seconds with the friend that's calling you and then tell her you're with someone and ask to call her back. This might sound lame, but I think that it would make the HB realize that there is competition for your time.

Just a suggestion from a guy who has been in this sort of situation before.

Guys,
put her in the ‚friends' circle‘! When doing that know that this girl hasn’t been ‘there’, you are probably the only one who has done that terrible thing to her. Try to make her feel not as HB10, but just a regular everyday girl(FRIEND!) HB10 always get the attention, they know who they are, they keep mirrors at their flats, you know… the only way getting her in your bed.. well…you should stop wanting her. And I mean it. The moment you do this, she will start begging.HB10 have a complex, they have to be in the center of the universe, having the attention of a man and losing it…well, she will do anything to get it back!
Play their game… you should be the HB10… just flip 180, you all know how to do that I am sure!

Cheers
Jez

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God she drives me nuts!

I friend zoned her while texting... then she calls me up and is like whats up?!

I say nothing... so she starts with the whole big flirt... coming on to me very strong. I tell her I ain't going to give in... if she wants me, meet me later, if she don't, forget it.

She refused to meet me... said she had plans. So I said thats cool, enjoy your night.

Anyways im driving home late, and i drive past where she works. Low and beyold that AFC's car is outside. I know they are fucking in the back room.

Really cut up... I know I shouldn't be... but hey, this chick has been coming on to me all day... as soon as I go with it, she balks and goes see some other guy.

Up half the night thinking about it... realised she jus aint worth it... the games have got to stop.

So she txts me this morning, im really trying to play it cool with her but this is what im up against guys, help me out here:

HB10: how you feelin about things 2day? (i.e. me blowing you out) or shall i not ask? lol
MooDude: Let's jus leave it, we r friends & i'm cool wit that x how was your nite?
HB10: fine x
MooDude: ??
HB10: My nite was fine! lol
MooDude: Lol oh ok glad u had fun x
HB10: Ye I did thanks! x
MooDude: Good 4 u x
HB10: Ye it was good 4 me dont knock it till u've tried it lol u stroppy git! lol
MooDude: Not being stroppy, i'm glad u got wot u wanted honest x
HB10: What u on about
MooDude: *****! (guys name)
HB10: Whatever
MooDude: I don't get u? That is wot u want isn't it? I'm not trying to be funny x
HB10: Yeaaaah riiiight

See how she plays me............. im starting by playing it cool, then she hits me with the sly comments and I end up SPAM my hand without even realising it!

I just wanna nail this chick... not because im even that into her anymore but because im fed up with losing with her... its the only way I can win... then walk away and pretend it was no big deal! Now that would fuck her right off.

Wow... MooDude - honestly, I think you've got a serious case of one-itis and you don't even realise it.

If those texts are your idea of playing it cool then I think you need a new fridge!

I could tell by the first text alone that you were annoyed/she got to you - and thats what she wants.

Now, I'm quite new to the game, and i'm not the best - but what I CAN do well is deal with hoops and shit tests - and you failed so many.

Listen to Jezebel - she gives really good advice - do a complete role reversal; whens she flirts with you just make comments like "woah, coming on a bit strong arent you?", and make sure to have a playful smile on your face. Don't let yourself be bothered by her comments. Act as if you are the prize. You don't have to truly believe it (though it helps) - but at least act like it.

I realise the post is a bit all over the place - my apologies, im quite hungover haha, but to recap:

+Stop reacting to her comments
+Be more playful and less serious
+If she throws you a hoop (which she seems to do a lot) throw it back to her
+Do a role reversal
+Act as if she wants you, and you're not interested


for example: you shouldnt have texted that "if you want me meet me" thing - thats a pile of crap and makes you look weak, you should be more playful with her, for instance, even in response to the first text you couldve said something like "haha, its a shame, you missed out on a pretty good night x" - and then be mysterious from there - dont let her know WHY she missed out

it's quite simple:
the less yout ell them the more they want to know
the less interested YOU are, the more interested THEY are

girls are funny creatures

Hope it helps,

latot

MooDude, Judging from that post it sounds like you have no game and not even any basic pua knowledge.

Ah thanks for that... its so easy when someone says it how it is... but is so easy to get clouded when im in the thick of it!

The whole hoop thing... can you explain what that is, and how/when she throws one? I'm still pretty new to all this (as you can tell)

if she asks for something you must get her to comply first, and THEN reward her with what she asked for OR punish her if she doesn't do it.

SIT! There's a good HB! **gives treat**

MooDude,
these txts are NOT ‘playing it cool’, man! You just did it again, you even told her that you know about the existence of this other guy! Not only the existence but his name, dudeee! You are actually doing him a favor.
Why are you even texting her…let her wait… let her hang… if you are so desperate to text her, do it…but do it in the evening telling her that you were busy the whole day or something like that. Make her understand that you have a life!
These txts weren’t friendly… if I get that kind of messages I would deffo think ‘He is obsessed with me and that’s kinda creepy and on top of that he is jealous’.
Ignore her for the next couple of days…give urself time to think about the whole thing, go out, have fun, have fun with other women, get it together! After that, if you still want her, go for the FRIENDS’ CIRCLE! Don’t tell her directly ‘Oh we are friends, I am cool with it’… think about it, do friends really tell each other that?
One more thing… if you don’t stop texting her because of the advices which all people here gave you, at least do it for the sake of your own EGO!
Go out there Moodude… there is so much waiting and begging to be picked up 
Cheerz
Joy
P.s read what latot posted..he has a point ! ‘Girls are funny creatures’

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