I just reread The Game because I was really bored..and to paraphrase one of Mystery's statements .. he said that high value women travel in packs and those are the ones you should be going for.

I can't say I agree with this. The fact remains that opening a set of more women is more of a challenge than one woman but I want to point out that women that usually are by themselves are usually more independent, and much more intellectual than the girls that constantly need friends to go anywhere.

Of course it's not necessarily true for everyone, some people are natural extroverts and need that outside energy, but I have to say that ..well Mystery isn't right on that point.

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Not really. MM is mostly about night game. Now do you know alot of HV girls that go to night clubs alone ?

Plus its most likely that a woman who's alone is simply not interesting, not attractive. Same goes with men.

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Absolutely. Women are raised and live in groups. Its very rare to find a "lone wolfette".


Not true. Some of the most interesting men\women can be loners. Keep in mind that being a loner/intorvert/lone wolf doesnt mean friendless. All it means is that it'll take them more time to open up to someone.

That's a big statement to make, lol.

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when mystery talks about HV women, he means reproductive value
High reproductive value = BEAUTY

you just misunderstood the kind of value in context, by the way, hot babes are normally stupid

Fu$$

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heres one, picture the hottest HB in highschool when you were a senior. What did she always do in the hallways...talk with her girlfriends and always socializing right? now on weekends she would call her friends and say hey party at my house, or hey lets go to the club ect. 9/10 times the HB's will be with be in a pack. Mystery was right

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OMFG WTF MYSTERY IS WRONG !?!?!?!


let's not forget he did lay the foundations on game.

A little respect for the guy.


My experience: I have yet to witness a hb 9+ alone in a club. But that could just be me.

Ever consider that maybe.........JUST MAYBE.....they WANT to go out alone? Not sure if you're aware but not EVERYONE is incredibly social <_<

i really don't understand why this would make you start a thread called "mystery was wrong". every pickup guru has been wrong on some things if you look hard enough.

Despite the raging farcery of much of this thread I feel I need to add my 2 cents. Hot, cool, sociable women will be found with other women that are at least cool (mother hens are usually stinkers tagging along to benefit from the others). But yar why would a high value woman hang with a low value woman?

Also in my experience women very rarely go to clubs alone. Women by themselves are 9/10 waiting for someone or have split off from their group for whatever reason.

Bars, libraries any other place you can think of this is different but clubs are pack outings.

I think the factor of being in a group or alone is determined by what she is doing and where it is at. During the daytime, sure a woman may be alone. She's running errands, taking care of whatever, just grabbing a coffee, headed to class/work, etc.. I would also agree with whoever said it before that Mystery's game is more club/party based. I think that from the posts above it is pretty much agreed that a high valued female will most likely not be going to a club alone.

A high-value woman would hang out with a low-value woman for the same reasons that men of different degrees of value hang together. When somebody comes around here and talks about how they feel low-value or that they don't think they're popular, we'll tell them that their value is an attitude. Most of us would hang out with a person like that at least once or twice for a variety of reasons. You could be trying to proof your friends, you could be interested in just a night out and don't care how you look with them, etc. The upshot is that you don't necessarily believe that they're low-value men or that they can't hang out with you until they improve.

Women, as everybody has noted, are often more sociable than men. I refuse for an instant to believe that every woman of high value always spends her time with other women of high value. Those mother hens, I don't think they're leaching. Rather, I suspect that the other girls wish they knew how to help the mother hen feel more comfortable and sociable. They want her to have fun; they're not secretly wishing she weren't there.

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Mystery has been wrong about loads of shit.

It's not a new phenomenon

Anyway.

Mystery method was written for club game, and alot of the hot girls in clubs are COMPLETELY vacant, and have little when it comes to outside life and true confidence.

These girls often won't go into town without friends.

The need to be with people is a sign of insecurity.

Key word NEED, personally I find the girls out on their own during day game to be 50x more awesome than most girls you stumble into in a club or bar.

I have no idea why anyone bar a PUA, would go to a club on their own, heading out with friends seems to be a key thing in going clubbing.

But IMO the O.P. is right, lone wolf girls are NOT low value.

A woman that is by herself wants to get FUCKED.

End of story.

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Apparently you missed what I said about that >_>...........or it totally went over you...

Well... why would you WANT to (reason wise)? You said that maybe the person isn't incredibly social, but why not be? Sure, being alone is fine, but there is nothing wrong with going out of your element and opening up a little; you have nothing to lose.