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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:05 pm 
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txt convo with a HB9 (my neighbour) who im working on after we had a great flirty conversation this morning on the phone, chatting about her ex who keeps pestering her but she wants to move on:

her: did u not c his car at lunch time? hahaha (refering to her ex bf who she is still sort of seeing)
me: hahaha u wish!! u was out wasn't u?
her: ye i went 2 his 4 lunch hahahaha x
her: cos I told him about my nosey neighbours lol
me: with (her kids name) !? hahahaha
her: ye he waited outside lmao!
me: hahahaha what r u like!! u luv windin me up dont ya?! i think u luv it when I tell u off as well u bad bad girl!!
her: i am jst winding u up!
me: i know u geek!! x x (slang term we call eachother from time to time)

Then nothing???

ah where did I go wrong? making statements about her intentions?
Its clear she likes me, she was trying to make me jealous... i was trying to play it cool.... I just can't seem to make a break through, i dont want it to be LJBF!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:43 pm 
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You killed the convo basicly.
you said: u ove winding me up
she said: im winding you up
you say: i know

What the fuck is she suposto say after that?
O i wanna come over and ride you like a bull....uuuhh no
You gata give her somthing to chase.why else would she keep talking to you
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This is a classic case of punishing good behaviour. She said she was only winding you up. Therefore she's being good. Then you go and call her a geek.

Hence punishing good behaviour. Nooooo. I think we've all been there. Learn from it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:39 pm 
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as it happens I spoke to her yesterday afternoon again and had a great flirty convo on the phone... didn't seem to take much effort to move it to talking about sex.

got in from work and noticed she was in... she I bit the bullett and went over there, invited myself in! She didn't seem to mind... picked up where we left off on the phone.

She asked if I wanted to sit in the living area... more comfy in there. I purposely sat on the big sofa hoping she would sit next to me... but she sat on the other adjoining sofa! Talked about sex again... really personal, intimate stuff. Wanted to make a move but wasn't sure how to with her sat on a different sofa? How would you go about getting over this obstacle? Anything I thought of, just seemed like the wrong thing to do... maybe its a limiting belief... I just had this vision of her being like 'what are you doing?' !

It got a little akwad, not in a bad way, in a good way if u know what I mean... thought I should quit while I was ahead, I didn't want her to initiate me leaving... so I tried to leave... but everytime i did she would start up another convo to get me hooked back in again. Is that an IOI?

Eventually I left... but was wanting more... got the impression she was as well.

Spoke to her this morning, she still seemed interested but not like yesterday. Maybe its because it was early... maybe its because I missed my oppertunity? Maybe im thinking too much into it!! Im sure there will be other oppertunitues though.

So I guess my question is:

If faced with the same situation again, how would u get passed the her sitting on the other sofa situation? I am aiming for a k-close here. If I can get that, im in the zone and have no trouble... then im pretty sure I will have no trouble with an f-close. Its just taking that first leap!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:25 pm 
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omg nice.
You should have said what are you doing when she sat down over away from you.
And said come sit over here.....then got close and kino..
or
Said something smart and moved into kino.. like you like tense while moving tword her and gave her a massage.
that is one of the best ways to start arousal

O yea sunds like she is really interested in you.
so just do your thang..no worrys

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Massage Massage Massage...

I keep thinking this... can't get it off the tip of my tongue.

Was out cruising tonight, she called me up (she was on her way home from a party). We got talking, she asked where I was... I told her, wanted her to come meet me but I thought if I ask she's gonna flake on me... so I didn't, just said where I was parked, then just kept talking.

Then she says, 'im right by you, shall I come meet you?'

Bingo!

She pulls up alongside me... at this stage I was thinking do I get out and go to her or does she get out and come to me.... I opted to go to her...

So we are sat in the front... gear stick between us. Talked for a few moments... was thinking how do I escalate this. Then she flaked... 'i told a friend I was on my way to hers, she is gonna wonder where I am... I better go'

crap!

I need to make a move quickly! As I was leaving her car, I said give me a hug thinking id kiss her when she moved but I froze! gave her a sheepish hug! damn damn damn! Its just a girl. Keep telling urself that!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:35 am 
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Nice work... at least you did somthing... It mighta make yourself look better saying give me a kiss... if she tryed to french say waaaa no no what you think your doing no making out yet...just let her kiss your cheek....
Anyways you seem to be in a good place with her...
She might not have been heading to her friends and just wanted to see you... the point is she did want to see you and did..
She left though sounds like you made her nervious or somthing...
RELAX this girl is into you .. you own the situation not her... make her see that..
alpha ... not asshole though....
"You should sit over here"
"YOUR LEAVING WITHOUT A KISS?"
"YOU DONT LOOK TO BAD TONIGHT"
w,e you can make up on the spot...
alpha is almost always flerting add a smile all the time with cocky or a wink
Nice progress though man.

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Ah that's some good ideas! Thanks!

You don't look too bad tonight... that was exactly what came to mind about 5 seconds after she had drove off! She did look mighty fine! I should have said this.

Was hoping to try those other lines out tonight... been planning it all day!

Saw her come home from work... got myself all tooled up, showered, shaved, hair, teeth, put on some damn good attire and was just about to pop over there once again unnanoucned.... phone rings... its her!

she said sorry she hadn't been in touch today, her battery was dead (I did phone her myself earlier and the phone was switched off so don't think thats bull)

Me: no problem... I was jus about to pop over...

Her: Ah sorry hun, my sister will be here any second for a chinese!

Damn!

And with that I watched her sister pull on to her driveway!

Don't you hate it when unforseen circumstances get in the way of your fun?!

I'm sitting here dressed to impress and no where to go.... i'm gonna have to do something, can't let this all go to waste :wink:


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something seems off with this one. are you kino escalating?

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Your not wrong there.

Just when I think im making progress...

I went out for a bit... then came back home. She txt's... convo goes like this:

Her: Hi m8 (wtf?!) all gone have drunk nearly a bottle of wine on my own! Lol feel a bit drunk haha got a funny story 2 tell you bout my ex
Me: hahaha what r u like! come on then spill the beans x

Pause for about an hour

Me: lol u there? u havent passed out have you? hahaha i'm bored at home going stir crazy, don't u have a leaking tap or something you need me to fix?! ;-)
Her: 2 long by txt lol (figure she is talking about the story she had to tell me)
Me: ah cool, y don't I pop over u can tell me about it?
Her: forget it!
Me: Lol oh ok then u ok?

Nothing

God where did I go wrong?! She txt me enthusiasticly telling me she was drunk... I asked her to tell me the story.... then she ignores me.... then seems to get mad cos im chasing her up on it.

Women! :evil:


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The first one...
Her sister is good :P make her your friend... you know the girl meet her sister have fun with her.make a new friend

Now on with.

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Your not wrong there.

Just when I think im making progress...

I went out for a bit... then came back home. She txt's... convo goes like this:
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Her: Hi m8 (wtf?!) all gone have drunk nearly a bottle of wine on my own! Lol feel a bit drunk haha got a funny story 2 tell you bout my ex
SHE is controlling shit ... NOGO... She wanted to talk to you though... so talk about somthing else....you don't want to talk about her freaking ex....
What the hell happen for her to get drunk....omg a bottle of wine?? GO on that fuck the ex...
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Me: hahaha what r u like! come on then spill the beans x
That’s you being pulled around
ok you can cut off my balls
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Pause for about an hour
She is totally fucking with you or very wasted.
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Me: lol u there? u havent passed out have you? hahaha i'm bored at home going stir crazy, don't u have a leaking tap or something you need me to fix?!
What you stopped playing WoW to talk to her.... dude get back on halo she is not more important then you..if she wanted to talk she would have been calling.
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Her: 2 long by txt lol (figure she is talking about the story she had to tell me)
That's your q to MOVE.... or just act like you have no idea what she is talking about and start a whole new convo.
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Me: ah cool, y don't I pop over u can tell me about it?
Her: forget it!
You blew that oblivious she basically told you to come over.
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Me: Lol oh ok then u ok?
That's a emotional question don’t ask that kind of thing. That is in the non verbal field that you need to understand...trust your instinct

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:05 am 
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Thanks for the response.... this is why im a work in progress.

I can get the interest, but I soon get carried away and revert back to my old ways.

Its clear when i see it written down and explained like that. I need to slow down a little, especially with texting.

Saw her yesterday with a few friends. We had a good time, I totally teased her all afternoon and she was flirting back.

I then did something that im not sure if it had the desired effect or not?

One of her friends (a married HB7) was totally digging me... the HB9 and HB7 where talking about their breasts... HB7 says she wants a boob job. Another friend, HB4 comes in to the garden, so I said to the HB4 - what do you think to her breasts? - pointing to the chest of the HB7. HB4 asks whats wrong with them, HB7 says they are starting to sag a little as she gets older. With that I reached out and cupped them with both my hands... I was half expecting to get a slap... but the HB7 seems to enjoy me gently squeezing them, testing their firmness! All this time the HB9 (the real target) is watching... I couldn't guage her reaction to it, she seemed to make a joke of it... do you think she was jealous or not bothered?

I detected a hint of jelousy, didn't know wether to carry it on or not... is this a good thing to make them jealous? How far can you go with it... ?

Later in the evening the HB7 says she has a joke on her phone which she read out... wasn't that funny, but I acted like it was and asked her to txt it to me... she did... so I got her number. HB9 is now acting like she's not interested... ?

Did I go too far?

I did speak to HB9 today however, and she seemed fine on the phone. Flirting with me... she mentioned the boob incident... and again joked about it... kind of 'what are you like!? your soooo naughty...' im taking that as a good sign?

On a side issue tho, I had the HB7 number so I thought id give that a go as well even though she is married, i'll share the txt convo I just had with her as I think I did much better:

Me: nice boobs x
HB7: Thanks x
Me: where u shocked?
HB7: getting a grope from you... no ;-)
Me: did you enjoy it?
HB7: I was not offended... did you enjoy it?
Me: I was not put off... would you like me to do it again?
HB7: would YOU like to do it again?
Me: would you like me to?
HB7: I asked you!
Me: I asked you first!
HB7: well, you can answer me first!
Me: will you then answer me second?
HB7: yes
Me: I would love to...
HB7: You are naughty... and if I was not married... I would x

At this point I wasn't sure where to go... do I leave it?... as always though I couldn't resist...

Me: That makes two of us... if ever you want some fun... there's plenty more where that came from x

I didn't get a reply, but then not sure I expected to. Maybe it wasn't the right thing to send... but I felt good about it.

Feel good about it all in general though. Still think the HB9 is interested, and i know that the HB7 is... even though she is married!

And i might not have got f-close or even k-close yet but hey im having fun at the moment and thats the main thing 8)


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DUDE I LOVED THAT ONE.
NICE WORK.
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One of her friends (a married HB7) was totally digging me... the HB9 and HB7 where talking about their breasts... HB7 says she wants a boob job. Another friend, HB4 comes in to the garden, so I said to the HB4 - what do you think to her breasts? - pointing to the chest of the HB7. HB4 asks whats wrong with them, HB7 says they are starting to sag a little as she gets older. With that I reached out and cupped them with both my hands... I was half expecting to get a slap... but the HB7 seems to enjoy me gently squeezing them, testing their firmness! All this time the HB9 (the real target) is watching... I couldn't guage her reaction to it, she seemed to make a joke of it... do you think she was jealous or not bothered?
COULD NOT BE BETTER....
ALPHA all the way and showing you are totaly comfortable with girls...they might think your gay but thats no problem....e.z to get around ..

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I detected a hint of jelousy, didn't know wether to carry it on or not... is this a good thing to make them jealous? How far can you go with it... ?
Probally did get jellious only your instinks tell man .... learn what you can on ur own
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Did I go too far?
No!
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I did speak to HB9 today however, and she seemed fine on the phone. Flirting with me... she mentioned the boob incident... and again joked about it... kind of 'what are you like!? your soooo naughty...' im taking that as a good sign?
SOUNDS GOOD
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On a side issue tho, I had the HB7 number so I thought id give that a go as well even though she is married, i'll share the txt convo I just had with her as I think I did much better:
COOL dont try anything but is good fun socal value to
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Me: nice boobs x HB7: Thanks x
IDK probally not the best topic
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Me: where u shocked? HB7: getting a grope from you... no ;-)
IDK about this question but she seems to respond well so she is starting on a flert base
She is saying she knows your alpha
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Me: did you enjoy it? HB7: I was not offended... did you enjoy it?
SHIT TEST - AT least your controlling the convo
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Me: I was not put off... would you like me to do it again? HB7: would YOU like to do it again?
more shit test
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Me: would you like me to? HB7: I asked you!
Your getting nowherer fast
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Me: I asked you first! HB7: well, you can answer me first!
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Me: will you then answer me second? HB7: yes
...lol
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Me: I would love to... HB7: You are naughty... and if I was not married... I would x
well thats good but not good......

The facts..... You just talked on a sexual base with a married girl.
She IS going to tell every one of her girlfriends....
If her husban come beating on the dore just say that your gay and start flerting with him...LOL
No but it was not good to open a convo like that with a married girl..
It's hard to judge because she is married and how it will go over with her friends...
But your in control so control it.... Talk to the other girls two about that and say how she totaly wanted you after you grabbed her boob.
....Go with it though DONT dought yourself....
Control it keep your alpha status...
YOU ALREADY HAVE IT keep it.
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At this point I wasn't sure where to go... do I leave it?... as always though I couldn't resist...
leave it with hb7 the married one...
it can be moved onto the other girls though and can get real .. really fast.
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Me: That makes two of us... if ever you want some fun... there's plenty more where that came from x
UGH well idk not my field ... I keep the married ones on the socal circle... not sexual ..
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I didn't get a reply, but then not sure I expected to. Maybe it wasn't the right thing to send... but I felt good about it.
HELL YEA your the man
THIS DHV to friends... YOU JSUT GRABBED A GIRLS BOOB in public and she is married... and knows your open for fun > everyone else knows now.... if any other are into you they will let you know somehow...they know you want to have fun ...and dont wanna miss out... dont miss understand it though...dont miss it ither
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Feel good about it all in general though. Still think the HB9 is interested, and i know that the HB7 is... even though she is married!
Thats good your developing a good NLP / body lang reading
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And i might not have got f-close or even k-close yet but hey im having fun at the moment and thats the main thing 8)
THATS ALL ITS ABOUT!....
HAVE FUN AND ENJOY YOURSELF..........
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD THIS IS...
goto the club ..... you have already had a awsme week with the 1 thing .... great to talk about...dont be shy about it alpha isnt shy of anything.

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