Here's the scenario-hot Slovakian girl serves me coffee every day. I do (pretty good if I may say so) cocky-funny stuff, with lots of touching. She seems OK with it but doesn't really reciprocate and I assume this is just a bit of fun going nowhere. Then one day, she says she is depressed, I say "why?", she tells me the weather is nice but she has no one to take her out in it and have fun, as her bf is busy. Long pause and expectant look at me.
I was in another relationship at the time so I didn't volunteer to entertain her.

That relationship fizzled out after a month, so I got back in touch with Slovakian girl today, getting straight to the point "When do you want to come out for a drink?". She just says "No", looks slightly embaraased if flattered. I blather badly "But you...Have your circumstances changed?" (give it up already please) but she offers no explanation.

Should I just forget about this and move on, or is there some possibility of salvaging the situation? My guess is that what she felt before was a result of the attraction I'd generated, but with no comfort to back it up that died and will probably not come back whatever I do now. But I hate giving up, particulary when the girl was clearly attracted to me previously, so I'd appreciate verification from people who are good at this stuff.

get out now.

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It doesn't sound to me like she ever showed any interest in you.
What now? You have to sarge a lot of girls. It's a numbers game.

Thanks guys. Will do.

Just curious Billionaire, but why do you think she never had any interest in me in the first place? Seemed like she was asking me out earlier. What she said was backed-up by some out-of-character IOI's also.

I'm already trying to sarge as much as humanly possible, this girl just fitted into my flightpath nicely.

Never mind. I didn't read your post thoroughly the first time.

Interesting story. I guess she is a waitress in some bar ? One thing that might work is jealousy. I saw some movie clips online of Mystery where he really creates a jealousy plot line to attract women. First I thought it was really evil to do this but at the end I realized that girls try to make guys jealous all the time in order to attract them. So one option could be to try to have a date with another girl in the place where the Slovakian is serving. If she really felt something for you in the past she is gonna go nuts if she sees you hanging out with another girl. If she sees you have more options than just her, next time she might say yes when you ask her out.

By the way, this is only my humble opinion. I am not a PUA (not yet ).

have you got a link to this clip???

i agree and while i'm not a master at this yet either jealously is something girls are very vulnerable too and might be the only somewhat decent chance you have to re-igniting this flame. question though, why didn't you take her out when she was interested before?

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Yes, I have. Start watching around minute 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sFf3t3l ... re=related

As I stated, I was in an intense relationship at the time and it would have been impossible.

As incredibly powerful as jealousy plotlines are (having a women on your arm is IMHO, the biggest single boost to your chances there is) I don't think it is going to work in this particular case. Good suggestion though.

My guess is not that she isn't attracted, but she formed a closer bond with her bf, felt guilty and stupid about asking me before. The problem seems to be a failure to generate comfort. She did actually say before "What do you think of me? Do you think I am stupid?". Coming across as a player with another hot girl I imagine would just make it worse.

Additionally, there aren't that many women who are hot enough to intimidate her (she's a 9 I'd say), and I am not able to conjure up one that easily. Ironically, I was actually planning to use her to game other women.

Just to expand an interesting discussion slightly: JP may be effective, but there is a reason for that: you need to be a genuinely quite high value male to have hot women hanging round you in the first place, even in a friendly capacity. I am not sure if it is possible to square that circle as an rafc.

Where did you hear that you can only make a girl jealous if she is hotter than the one you are chasing ? According to me your theory goes completely against the mystery method. The mystery method basically works best when approaching a group of girls. Your aim is to go for the hottest in the group. A simple version of the mystery method is to approach the group and ignore the hottest girl but talk to the less hot girls while once in a while he negs the hot target. In some way you are making the hottest girl jealous because you don't pay attention to her but to her less attractive friends. So this is an example that the girl doesn't need to be hotter in order to create jealousy.

In the more advanced version of the mystery method you look into the room and chose your target, lets say a HB10. Instead of approaching the set of HB10, you just open another set. Once you have worked that set, you use that set to open the set with the HB10. You work the set of the HB10 and than you this set to open another set. Now you pay more attention to the last set you opened. By doing this you create a jealousy plotline in which you create jealousy in different sets. The set of HB10 will also get jealous. By definition the other sets are less attractive than the one of HB10 because you chose HB10 because she was the hottest. So by using less attractive women it is possible to make the HB10 jealous. Of course, the girls you use to make HB10 jealous should be a little bit descent. If you show up with a set of kamikazepilots than of course this is not gonna work.

Moving on is the best thing you can do now.

Yeah thanks, I hadn't really got the Jealous Plotlines thing understood properly (The SPAM in Mystery's book is a bit confused). In particular I confused the concept of "ugly girl" with using a 6-8. I appreciate the clarification.

That said, I don't think this can work here a) for the reasons I mentioned previously, attraction isn't the problem. I'm fairly sure the girl wants to fuck me already, she doesn't trust me. Maybe if the girl was liked and trusted by her it would work, but I can't conceive how to find such a girl.
b) The scenario where she works isn't conducive to multiple sets. It is her, maybe one co-worker, and a lot of very fleeting trade.

To the guys who are saying drop this, I'd like to ask for a bit of clarification. It seems to me the advice not to chase a bad set or HB is for three reasons:

1) Avoid oneitis.
2) Don't waste time.
3) It knocks your confidence.

However, in this case I'm already sarging multiple opportunities and this girl is only third or fourth on my target list. I have to be in that location on a daily basis anyway waiting around, so I am losing no time. I don't feel emotionally invested in this woman at all, I just wanna fuck her and have fun with it.

It seems the upside here is quite good, either she changes her mind and gets horny again at some moment, which may be very unlikely, but probably isn't completely impossible, or, much more likely, I can befriend her and use her as social proof. This latter possibility would be a big plus to me.

So, there is no downside and some good upside.

That said, my logic could surely apply to every guy with oneitis who comes here for the first time, so I guess I'm sure my logic is flawed in some way. Set me straight.

I did something kinda like this, reject a girl-ish. Was hanging out with a friend's friend and her crew and she was coming onto me a lot, she was drunk and asking me to make out and getting herself against a wall and all that. I'd kinoed her and gamed her earlier that night for practice, but didn't wanna hook up because I'm sober. I told her she won't get a kiss until she's sober and kept hanging out with her occasionally freezing her out when she got mad about the kiss thing. I told her to call me before I left and she gave me a crazy hug while I was walking away.
Haven't heard from her since, don't really care that much, just wanna know what's going on so I can deal with it accordingly. I get hit on by drunk chicks a lot but I don't like following through because I don't drink and feel weird hooking up with drunk girls, tipsy girls are whatever but I don't do drunk girls.

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