Alright so I went on two day 2's with girls in the past 2 weeks. One was a HB8 the other was about a HB6. Well...

The first HB8 went to the mall with walked around shopped a little for mothers day, and then she decided that we should go see a movie. So we went, ended up holding hands and she held my hand like she had more feelings for me rubbing my fingers with hers and smiling and then I ended up saying "give me a kiss" in spanish to her and she smiled she knew what I said and we did we kissed. After the date she tells me another day, I rather just be nothing more than just friends. Okay rejected whatever but I'm still clueless what I did wrong, it was all fine, but what ever get rejected I can deal with that.

Now the next girl, HB6. She was pretty fun girl. I took her out on this road called south street in philly where they have all these stores, bars, clubs, etc etc and all these people having fun. We walked up and down talking and laughing had some frozen yogurt from this kick ass place. Then she decides we should go see a movie. Okay so we go and see a movie, I took my time this time, besides it was terminator salvation I really wanted to see it. Near the middle I lifted the armrest and she right away came and laid by my said and I was holding her. Again said the same thing Dame un beso (give me a kiss) and she smiled at me and started to makeout (she was horrible by the way I could tell she was a virgin by her kiss, she was the worst kisser I ever had but I don't mind taking the time out to teach someone lol). Anyways I wanted to pull away to finish watching the kick ass movie and everytime I went to she would pull me back in and she would sit up more wanting more, I finally said fine and until the end of the movie we made out (horrible lol). After that I took her back home, we planned on going to the beach today but then she ended up texting me (listen I don't mean to be a bitch or anything but your a great guy took ur time with me, but I don't want to be anything more than just friends....).


AGAIN WTF. I did nothing wrong I know I did.


How can I get out of this friends zone mentality with these girls. I followed all steps and everything. It's like something that just clicks in these girls heads and say hey just friends ok? And I know I'm not a bad kisser at all, so its deffinatly not that. I mean they ask me where I get all this money from to afford things for my car and lifestyle and I tell them I work for my fathers business wwhich is the truth lol.


I don't know, can you guys help me out with anything? Pointers? Suggestions? Concerns? anything at all?

it all sounds fine. Maybe the movies and shopping arent allowing you to be high energy enough. Do something strange with them... it might make them think your worth hanging out with more.
and of course you could try escalating on the day 2. It makes your intentions clear. Thats realy additional advice, i realy cant see what your doing wrong, but then the likelyhood is if your not noticing it you wont write it in.
Just take it back to basics, read up on the comfort and seduction phases of mystery method. Of course there are all these new models, but a model is just a basic frame to build on and MM works just fine.

movies for a high energy girl? erm... that just isnt smart. Woman dont know what they want, you should know that by now lol, you decide, let her follow you.

OXPUA

First of all, how old are you? It sounds like you're really young based on your post, under 18 anyways in my opinion but I could be wrong. Anyways, you didn't even try to escalate it past making out, or you didn't mention it in your post. You have the 2nd girl isolated alone with you in a dark movie theatre, you were holding each other, making out, what the hell do you need someone yelling at you to get sexual? The first girl you didn't even try to isolate her. Get them alone, once alone then escalate it as far as you can. They were both probably just disappointed that you didn't do anything to escalate the situation. That is the man's job. I've had it happen to me too so don't worry about it. Just learn from your mistakes.

If I had to make a suggestion from the information you've given, I'd say that you let them lead far too much.

Was it their idea to go to the mall? I know for sure it was one of the girl's ideas to go to the film because you already wrote that, and maybe it's just me but asking a girl for a kiss in Spanish is just a little bit cheezy (in the non-good sense of the word). I agree with what some of the other guys have said about energy levels and location, you had no real time to convey higher value, cheekiness and all the other good stuff you need to make the seduction perfect.

Next time, get ice cream and go people watching.
Additionally, costume stores with a digital camera for taking photos is cool.

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