Being 46, negging can backfire on women my age. They know they're older, stuff is sagging, women half their age are 10X as hot. Unlike younger women, they're not quite as fond of pricks. They crave attention and a compliment or two. Heck, they sarge us.

So I'm online (still working on enough PUA material to be alone in the field), and a local gal comes online with a terrific tan. Nice skin too. So I open with the compliment "nice tan" and question "do i need to work on a tan?". I'm pale, so she says yes and we ended up IMing for over an hour. We're meeting today for 9 holes of golf which she says she loves but sucks at (can you say kino and DHV?). And, I get to be outside and tan.

My PUA training tells me I'm being sarged, lol. But at least I KNOW whats going on, and, can control it. I've also learned enough NOT to screw it up by DLVing myself in "awkward" moments. I watched a few clips of Mystery in action and he's not afraid to let things go quiet for a bit...then kick back in or wait for her to kick back in.

She's pretty good at cocky funny, so I'll just work on that this afternoon.

Ok. So we met at the course at 3 PM. She was cute for a lady my age. HB doesn't figure here...lol. So I started using PUA techniques to avoid screwing up. I paid for the round but stated she would pay for the refreshments.

On the course I was more relaxed than I had been in the past with other women, didn't talk too much, didn't DLV myself, let quiet moments just happen without feeling the need to fill the space.

After all, even 9 holes of golf takes the better part of 2 hours, you have to pace the conversation. We pegged each other with a few questions now and again, I helped her with her golf game (she sucked), and I didn't have much sense of chemistry from her.

Again, PUA knowledge just let me go with the flow here, no need to force things, I am the prize. Surprisingly, she wanted to go out to a bar after golf, and we had a few beers and some food. We played some pool (she sucked), and again I just kept it light, nothing awkward.

She paid for drinks and the meal (yes!). So we walked out to our cars, and that's the moment of truth. My past few dates I've jumped in and asked about second dates and stuff. This time, I just stood there ready to say I'll give you a call sometime. However, she gave me a hug, and starting going over her schedule out loud and decided we should get together Tuesday night.

Interesting. I said fine, and suggested we play some darts after work and have some beer. She gave me another hug and a kiss and that was it. My job was done.

Now if you had asked me if she was into me, I really wouldn't have been able to tell you until we were standing by the cars after being together 3 hours. But, I didn't let my not knowing let me do something stupid, I just went with the uncertainty, because, really, who gives a crap?

Whereas I had impressed my previous first dates with my sensitivity and neediness leading to NO second dates, this time, I played it cool and calm. Just out for a nice afternoon. I let her pay for drinks and food and pool and then I got a little kino at the end.

I'm not opening sets but the PUA mindset is starting to pay dividends. It's about being alpha, being confident, having other options. I suspect the next time we meet my lips will get a workout.

I am glad to hear about someone who is utilizing the "game" not to just bed hot women but to better their social comfortability. While reading Strauss' book (and Mystery's) I realized this material could easily be marketed as wholesome, mass appeal "social dynamics" with absolutely no relation to sex as a motivator for learning. The goal could be to simply help shut-ins and shy persons to realize social situations are all about perception and help these people emerge from their shells. And plenty of people have that problem!

The catch is that these tactics were developed for the purposes of getting laid and garner their appeal on the basis of socially inept guys blossoming into full-fledged pick-up-artists. I think someone in the community could easily adapt these programs to fit a non-sexual market and reach a more generic "Self-Help" audience.

My final point is that these texts, forums and communities can be utilized by people only wishing to overcome anxiety in the real world and truly learn more about the human species than one would think possible.

-Happy hunting! lol

Ya done good. She may have not been that obvious with what she was thinking or feeling as she probably had some anxiety over the golf thing.

Golf is a sport dominated by fat men in bad clothes with cigars. She probably felt a bit self conscious. Me (and I have had to explain this to a friend of mine) in a situation like that - know when to lose! Or only win by a little. (I would have played my clubs short so it looks like I am taking as many shots as she is - switch to bogey golf)

OT story - I am a fair to middlin pool shot. We were playing with some ladies one night and I kept losing. Not making shots, scratch etc. The ladies won about 75 % of the games (I am not going to lose them all) and he got on me about my game - Dude - look at them - let them win a little - jeeze - it's an easy decision for me - as it opens a woman up more while it is technically DLV - it breaks the bitch shield and you can still hop out and run the table if your ego is such a problem.

Continue to go with the flow, letting her win a few rounds of cricket or some such thing might not be a bad thing

Good luck.

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