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Yesterday I was out with a couple of friends and I was at two totally different places.

The first place was a rock bar with some Swedish trash metal. We where three at first and another 5 persons meet us up at this place just a couple of minutes later - 3 girls and 2 guys.

A girl sat next to me and I have met her real shortly one time before so no introduction was necessary. We talked about some general stuff and I was always thinking of leaning in to listen her so I just leaned back and if she didn't hear I raised my voice or let her come to me.

I didn't have any particular interest in her, I just wanted to test and improve my beginners game. I negged her a little bit about her funny accent (she is from another part of Sweden then Stockholm)

Anyhow, after that we went to another club, which happen to be gay night, because of the Eurovision Song Contest (http://www.eurovision.tv/) in Europe and at one of the dance floor it was really crowded and I approached a group of four girls (it was not many girls there! A lot of gays and one or two couple of lesbos, and something around 20 hetero girls out of 300 persons or something) with a special interest of a really beautiful "Rihanna"-skin color girl. Here is where the problem starts...

I didn't think through any plan on what to say, I just approached and said:
- "Man, you got to dance a lot because you smell a lot of sweat!"

I am not sure if the girl didn't heard me or didn't care to response but there were no response from her.

* How do I approach a girl on a dance floor?
* Should I scream so she can hear me or take another target which is currently not dancing?
* Dance with so much confidence to DHV?

Also, a future reminder is that I need to prepare more and start to type down some openers, jokes, learn some magic tricks, DHV stories or just about anything so that I don't come unprepared.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:07 pm 
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The dancefloor seems to be the hardest way to chat to girls so I mean if your really desperate to chat to a girl thats on the dancefloor the only reasonable way I can see of opening is just through eye contact and dancing nearby, unless you have some form of rapport beforehand, talking to a girl on the dancefloor may not be the best way to open.

Don't know if this helps at all as i'm new really but anyway there you go :D

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The dancefloor seems to be the hardest way to chat to girls so I mean if your really desperate to chat to a girl thats on the dancefloor the only reasonable way I can see of opening is just through eye contact and dancing nearby, unless you have some form of rapport beforehand, talking to a girl on the dancefloor may not be the best way to open.

Don't know if this helps at all as i'm new really but anyway there you go :D

-Caspa.
Hi Caspa!
You are right that the dance floor is a very tough place to pick up girls on but also a place with great potential as many guys are just standing and dancing like creeps ...

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There is something I don't like about the term neg. I much prefer tease or back-handed compliment in my own mind because it reminds me that it's all friendly and fun and I’m not giving her a hard time like I would dis one of my buddies. In fact, I’ve gotten away from that all together too. It’s sort a game amongst guys, but I’m finding it better to prop them up and build their inner game so they can do the same for me; even when there aren’t any women around.

A little story that messed me up with my off/on GF. We were at dinner with my Mother and some of her friends, and dissing each other has been a part of our relationship since I was a little kid. I said something that was perfectly ok in the context of my relation with my Mother, but she really took offense to it. She had me pegged as an insensitive jerk for quite a while there and didn’t want to take me with her to parties with her friends because she thought I might say something that would insult or embarrass her.

Anyways, about opening on the dance floor. This should work for the clubs you were at, but I have opened several times on the dance floor at country bars. I would teach line dancing and country swing before I would open up my club for the night crowd, so I had a little credit in that department to begin with, then I would just go out and dance when I would play something that really inspired me. I would dance behind the booth too. If I wasn’t automatically pulled into the girl sandwiches, I would just dance near by then offer my hands to which ever pair of girls I was opening and switch to a two girl swing.

Ok, I should point out that the sets are girls dancing with each other. I have pulled up to three this way. The trick is, when the song is over you need to have something to cross you over from the dance floor to a more suitable place for conversation and you need to be a confident dancer that likes to dance.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 11:21 am 
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The dance floor is hands down the best place to pick up women, for 2 main reasons. First, 9/10 there is not another guy in sight literally is No mans land. Secondly, it is non-verbal, so just go over and dance with her or take her hand and bring her into your group etc. There are hundreds of ways of opening on the dance floor, just have good body language and you will be fine (you don't need to know how to dance).

Also if you have a lot of free time check these out;
Kelvin, Peter. 1969. The Bases of Social Behaviour, An Approach in Terms of Order and Value. Holt, Rinehart and Winston Ltd. London.

Le Bon, G. 1896. The Crowd. Unwin. London.

Small, Christopher. 1987. Lost in Music: Culture, Style and the Musical Event. Routledge & Kegan Paul. London.

They will help you understand clubs on a different level and be able to use it to your advantage.

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There is something I don't like about the term neg. I much prefer tease or back-handed compliment in my own mind because it reminds me that it's all friendly and fun and I’m not giving her a hard time like I would dis one of my buddies. In fact, I’ve gotten away from that all together too. It’s sort a game amongst guys, but I’m finding it better to prop them up and build their inner game so they can do the same for me; even when there aren’t any women around.

A little story that messed me up with my off/on GF. We were at dinner with my Mother and some of her friends, and dissing each other has been a part of our relationship since I was a little kid. I said something that was perfectly ok in the context of my relation with my Mother, but she really took offense to it. She had me pegged as an insensitive jerk for quite a while there and didn’t want to take me with her to parties with her friends because she thought I might say something that would insult or embarrass her.
Sorry to hear that!
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Anyways, about opening on the dance floor. This should work for the clubs you were at, but I have opened several times on the dance floor at country bars. I would teach line dancing and country swing before I would open up my club for the night crowd, so I had a little credit in that department to begin with, then I would just go out and dance when I would play something that really inspired me. I would dance behind the booth too. If I wasn’t automatically pulled into the girl sandwiches, I would just dance near by then offer my hands to which ever pair of girls I was opening and switch to a two girl swing.

Ok, I should point out that the sets are girls dancing with each other. I have pulled up to three this way. The trick is, when the song is over you need to have something to cross you over from the dance floor to a more suitable place for conversation and you need to be a confident dancer that likes to dance.
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The dance floor is hands down the best place to pick up women, for 2 main reasons. First, 9/10 there is not another guy in sight literally is No mans land. Secondly, it is non-verbal, so just go over and dance with her or take her hand and bring her into your group etc. There are hundreds of ways of opening on the dance floor, just have good body language and you will be fine (you don't need to know how to dance).

Also if you have a lot of free time check these out;
Kelvin, Peter. 1969. The Bases of Social Behaviour, An Approach in Terms of Order and Value. Holt, Rinehart and Winston Ltd. London.

Le Bon, G. 1896. The Crowd. Unwin. London.

Small, Christopher. 1987. Lost in Music: Culture, Style and the Musical Event. Routledge & Kegan Paul. London.

They will help you understand clubs on a different level and be able to use it to your advantage.
Thanks all for the tips, I really appreciate it!
I will order some of these books immediately!

Curiosa:
Today, during the way home and when I went down to buy some sushi, I said ”Hi!” to four girls which three of them responded. They all responded with a ”Hi!” and a little bit chocked. They weren’t expected a stranger to just say ”Hi!”. I didn’t start a conversation, I just said ”Hi!” and moved on.

Approach anxiety vs. Restarted:
0 – 1

I can also mention that after I said ”Hi!” i didn’t day, nothing happen, they smiled and just said ”Hi!” back. Great feeling! I have to do it again!

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They are quite conceptual but will give you an idea of how people interact. Actually if you wait till I have my grades, I can post my essay on dominance in a club environment it touches on some of the ideas.

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The dance floor is hands down the best place to pick up women, for 2 main reasons. First, 9/10 there is not another guy in sight literally is No mans land. Secondly, it is non-verbal, so just go over and dance with her or take her hand and bring her into your group etc. There are hundreds of ways of opening on the dance floor, just have good body language and you will be fine (you don't need to know how to dance)
When I go clubbing and stuff, theres always guys on the dance floor! Unless its different out of NZ?

I agree with the non-verbal opening, its fucking hard to get a girl to hear you when its blasting with music and yelling just makes it seem like you're trying too hard


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