how about something like this, "How about I let you buy me a drink."

_________________
- Eagle

sure, you can say ouy are too young. i know how you feel, as i started understanding this at the age of 16. what will work for the older people, wont work for us here. the whole drinks thing, and stuff like that.

its harder yes to go out and practice as you cant just go out to the club, but its not too bad. also at this age, you will see most of your age group with the 'rent(s). that slows ya down a tad, but not too much. open and chat when they stray away from the 'rent for a sec.

ive found out that a good place to go and talk to girls around that age is in the mall, in abercrombie stores, hollister stores, etc. depending on what type of girl you want to talk to. yes actually go into the store, dont be afraid. if anything, open on them, and get them to help you dress for a 'birthday party' that is for a friend you havent seen in a long time.

but the most important thing, is that you start shaping yourself early on, so you have a head start ahead of most. dont exactly have to start the extreme peacocking yet, but get there. most people around this age will go punk/emo since that is pretty much peacocking. i thought that peacocking wouldnt work at this age, but i was sooo proved wrong when i saw it first hand.

you cant exactly use openers, but more follow the method 'list', as in open with opinion...neg....dhv....build comfert...push and pull...etc

that worked the best for me in high school anyway. dont worry about it too much though. most of the HBs in high school think its cool if you can read them pretty well, w/o them telling you straight up.

and girls this age really like guys to take control, since everything is still rather 'new'. they will push the shit tests into the ground sooo much. as long as you dont fall for it, your cool. they follow the music, and if you dont buy them their favorite 'lip gloss' or are a part of the 'football or basketball team', you have to work at it more, as they are shown as a higher value than you already.

_________________
...Chiquae's presence was left here...

The earlier you start the better my man. Just dont expect to find an abundance of sets around. And if you do, you have to bypass the biggest teenage pua hurdle, superficiality. If your not on drugs, partying endlessly or on so may steroids for the football team that your eyes dont blink in unison, then your going to find it much harder to get your message across to these women.

But still, go for it! In a one hour period i might find 2 decent sets in a shopping mall. And a daytime pickup like that is challenging. So work your day game while you wait for the clubs. It gets easiier, both because your skills will improve and because the girls will fall back to earth.

_________________
'Oh my, you sir are the Moriarty of self awareness and personnal refelection'

What a title!

hey, i know what you mean. im 14 and somtimes i just want to quit "the game" and wait untill i get older. the only thing that keeps me going is one thing,school game. school game is not much different than night game, the only two big differences are time and social status. you only get maybe an hour at the most if your lucky and you have to be in control of your social status for 6 hours a day. young sarging , to me ,takes more strategy because you have so many cock blocks and so little life experiences to share. us young guys need to stick together because there are problems that are never mentioned in thease forums.

I completely agree with fluid school sarging can in aspects be more difficult then night game because of all the obsticales you'll encounter but it usually helps when you have a wing because then you don't look like one of those loner dudes... if you go to a small school try making friends in other schools and meeting them there sometime during a spare or something and then burst into action

Hey im also under 18!
Some ideas of the game just blow out when you are not at a "legal" age...but you still can use a lot of openers and routines.
I perssonaly like to sarge at the mall, the public swimming pool and if you have a wing the main station...
School I dont like too much for that...because generaly at that age is sucks if the girl is from the same class than you, the ambiance become pretty much bad and is also no good for the study...YES! study is important!

Another good tip is: have a lot of friends (woman) the reason? they have a lot of other friends and cousins (woman)...so she will introduce yout to them!

What lines you generally use to open sets in malls?

J.Fox

_________________
"Audaces Fortuna Juvat"
The destin helps the audacious ones

No, you are not to young. End of discussion.

_________________
Amor est Vitae Essentia

agreed, u cant just sit there and say idk, im too young. seize the day. i started just about as young as u and it sucks a lot at first.

you have to overcome the social status you already have. thats the hardest in my opinion but it can be done. take my word for it.

lack of sets. thats when the mall, store or someplace comes into account. go to other schools in the area and spread your game.

there are plenty of partys in hs. u can pull some closes off it just takes pract.
or if worse comes to worse do the superbad thing and have some cops drag u out kicking and screaming about how they can hold u and how there pigs ect...

but mostly remember its your game cause u make it and play it as you like. you make the rules. thats one of the main elements. u take control its about being a alpha.

_________________
"there are no unknockable doors, there are no unwinnable wars."

Guess what dude, I am 14. haha that's right, I haven't even strarted highschool yet (tuesday is my first day as a freshman). I haven't done much sarging, but I have realized, that you can use many of these techniques and things to get you way, be it with parents, friends parents, or even teachers, they can all be gamed. Focus on posture, body language and voice tonality. All these things can be done to "better" yourself, and will help in the long run.

Also for those of you talking about life experience stories, life is what you make it, I have climbed on top of rooftops jumping from rooftop to rooftop, I have played catch with a cloned sheep brain, I convinced my most uptight friends to sneak out late at night, and I have been hit by a car. <---all of these in the past year and a half. So I have plenty of stories, but this is only because I go out and take risks... (and I am not stupid, I could see you guys thinking that the rooftop thing is just plain ignorant, but no, I just know my limits, and I won't do anything too crazy and life threatening.)

So dude just go for it, I hope to sarge a bunch during highschool ( I am 6 foot so I can lie and pass as sophmore easily.) I would like to become a MPUA even though thats a huge stretch, hey, I have a big 6-8 year advantage over others.

Lastly, if your life does happen to be uneventful, and you can tell elaborate white lies, much like evan does in Superbad, for instance if you were lazy and stayed home all day yesterday, you could tell people, that your parents locked you in your room, so you spent the whole day learning how to hack, and by the end of the day, you set your dad's work computer background too hardcore porn. <---that may be going too far, but you get thje picture. Anyways, enough rambling peace out.

_________________
Fear not but fear itself.

sotch,

i wish I would have got into the game at your age..... Im 17 now but I cant really do alot of clubbing as well. But I found out here in chicago they have so many 18+ up clubs here lol so Im gonna try to perfect my game till then but Hell look around yor area theres bound to be a a lounge or something you can do :0

14? hang on a minute....wat you fretting over getting women for at 14???Wat you should be worrying about is making loads of friends and just having a damn good time. Having no responsibility is the only freedom your ever gonna get. make the most of it. Instead of trying to become a PUA at 14, try n become a natural. Just talk to loads of girls and guys. No routines or anything, they won't work at that age. It's all about social groups during your teens.

Ppl ask questions to see what groups your associated with, and thus can categorise you into good or bad. e.g. Wat skl do you go to? - posh or not, Wat subjects you taking? - Geek or not...similarities...wat sports you do? - cool or not. This isn't the GAME but just general. Wat you have to learn is to try and associate yourself with what they're interested in. Being the AMOG, in EVERY group. That way you'll become a natural.

14 years old=Be busy working on developing a reputation(a good one).

without rep,HS game is near impossible,and you will have to resort to outside.

Hey man, I totally understand your dilemma. I'm also 16 and I live in a fairly small city at that.. Not super small. But word gets around. Some advice I have is not to focus on routines very much. Really at 15 I was already a bit of a natural, kinda low status in middle school, but that changed. Now most women I get with are 18 19 20 but I just like the attitude they put off, and usually beauty follows that age better than 16 haha. Really, at this age. A man who can be sexually confident outgoing and. Bold is very rare. Build yourself a name among your highschool, make friends with important party people. Read some GMW or some David D read gambler for escalating. Trust me, at this age we are a rare breed. An advantage more so than when you start to get in college. Best of luck

focus on daygame.
go do things. there will happen enuff things for stories you can use later.
just be a genuine cool kid ;) and you'll have plenty of ladies.

don't rush yourself however. just go out and have fun.
you cant say you're already a man. but you can become one you know.

about the routine.

just take other routines that fit the suroundings:d

about the ages of the girls.
you'll have to dicide that one for yourself.
i'd say the ones you're attracted 2 :d

hey im 15 , and im doing just fine , try going to malls often , i do that usually , i get like 6 or 7 phone numbers each time i go there , but i think women will respond better in an older age like 18+

_________________
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.