This thread is for discussion about things that happen in the show, not whether you think it's going to ruin the game completely or whatever else.

Sooooooo, who else thinks Spoon shoulda stayed? I liked that guy, he was funny. I don't understand what got him so upset, he opened his set with success after talking to Mystery! He even won that peacocking reward.

But on another note, I also think Fred should stay, he needs to learn a lot more.

Joe holds himself weird I think, he does look gay by the way he walks.

Ive just seen a clip of episode 3, 1 of the guys does an awsome opener, the rest look like a bunch of muppets. Just wait till you see pradeep and that other guy in a set - the look and body language of the girls is hilarious.

Cringing to watch but im enjoying it!

I think that fat guy has some potential.






edit heres the clip doubt itll stay around too long

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Its gonna come down to the big guy, and Joe W, the guy that won last episode. Pradeep doesn't stand a chance, neither does kosmo or the goofy blonde guy.

I think the show is good, but they dont teach these guys enough to succeed. You cant just get pumped up and go for it, if you dont have the moves to back it up. I mean, its completely painful to watch some of these guys try their PU's.

For instance, I think his name was fred (the older guy). He was doing pretty well as far as building the confidence for the approach, but his communication skills needed a lot more work. The girl he approached was freaking hot, gotta give him props for that. But these guys are way out of their league. I dont mean that the women are out of their league, but their game is. If your 40 something in a younger crowd, why not look and act 40 something. That way, your using your natural traits as a peacock, and then you dont have to do so much "acting" to keep the PU going.

Mystery's stuff seems pretty credible, but after seeing the success these guys are having on the show, im not sure. He might not be the best teacher. Its like everything he tells them, they do the opposite. The guys that are succeeding, already had some skills, and just needed a nudge in the right direction. The guys that are failing need a much different approach.

All in all, its a pretty entertaining show, and next episode looks really good. I wonder if the last episode is who can get laid?

I agree. It just dosen't seem that these guys are learning enough about basic conversational skills to be going in trying to do pick ups. I also think it'll come down to the two Joes. Kosmo let me down. I thought he'd pick it up pretty quick.

Kosmo can do really well, but he needs to keep his mouth shut. He has some confidence, but has no problem Negging himself and not even realizing it. I think he kinda looks like John Leguizamo and could do really well taking on the "bad boy" look or even using a wing to say, hey dont you think my friend looks like John Leguizamo? Or he could not even mention that, just go in, do a good PU, have the bad boy look, and girls will subconsciously go for him. Him and the big guy could tear it up. Big joe needs a full on black suit with pink pinstripes to take on sorta mobster look. Kosmo needs a big fat chain with a "K" and to never use the words " I or Me"

I think its a decent show. And no I dont think it will ruin the game or the trill of the chase. And these ppl are living w/ Mystery for 8 weeks. Theres a lot of off camera training going on for sure. Im pullin for joe w. Hes got a great personality, and he'll respect ppl cuz hes fat. He'll be able to pull of the cocky funny stuff but he just seems more genuine then the other dudes. And yeah that blonde guy just needs to come out of the closet. And yeah spoon was being a bitch to. I actually thought he had it going on pretty good.

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THESE GUYS ARE BEING TAUGHT BUT ARE NOT LISTENING!!!

for instance, that idiot that did the breakdance in episode 2, matador said he told him 3 TIMES not to do that!

After reading TMM reviews on venusian arts forum it sounds like mat and jdogg are top instructers. If these guys choose not to learn / listen you can hardly blame the teachers, these guys are not learning their material, theres only so much an instructor can do. And lets not forget these guys are total AFC'S with extra anxiety put on them due to the TV cameras.
I for 1, would rather not look a fool on national TV, being filmed trying to sarg is 1 hell of a stressload. But anyway theres plenty of 'heres not what to do's' in the 3 episodes ive seen!

Spoon had way too much anxiety I think it was overwhelming to him. I think once he can get some paxil he will be fine.. He was wound like a top.

As far as the older guy - as a woman just watchin him he gives me the hebe jeebes, that said I think its fixable, watching the show I hope he will see his manerisms, he comes across as weak lacking confidence and that is unsettling for women. If he could get women to think he was confident and was in a crowd with people more his own age I think he would do fine.

Brady the guy who had the brown hair they died blonde - BAD MOVE he was so much cuter with is natural brown.. the blonde looks way too fake.. His roots are going to be horrible soon look for that in future episodes.. Also he has potentil if he applied what they are teaching..

The heavy set guy is great!!! He builds high comfort..

The guy whos on there because people think hes gay - he is willing to put himself out there and try it and develop his willingness alone to learn will take him far..

The dorky guy with is blue hair.. YUCK! bad blue spot.. Ok maybe most of you dont know this but some girls secretly love dorks.. its the revenge of the nerds phenomenon.. if he can just get comfortable with himself.. and use what is being taught he will be fine too.. Just be ok with being tall and skinny and work it - You can tell hes a genuine person and girls will like that add some confidence and hes golden.

Love the show known about the game for a while it didnt expose it to me, butI am watching to learn and adapt it to PU men.

you guys know how these reality tv shows are, the most random guy you would never guess is gona win.

better not be pradeep. i will not be happy about it.

first thought that kosmo shoulda been eliminated 1st round. he diddnt even try. but no eliminations this time.

second show, i thought fred should be booted, as he wasnt trying to learn what mystery was teaching him at all. spoon shoulda stayed, as he would only get better and better. his confidence drastically improved compared to when he first entered the house.

his third show, i thought that predeep shoulda been gone. i know that saving the last guy is good strategy for winning this show, but i would rather be surrounded by good people to keep me going even further and to further polish my skills. i mean he did basicaly cheat to win the gambit, abd diddnt even try to use it. the way him and fred met up in the club, diddnt exactly work out the best.

the way mystery has it set up, is that they get so far, then fall. go so far, then fall again. but those who pay attention and are actually listening and practicing, will at leas tbe able to hold a decent convo for the time being, untill they get up to the attraction part.

what i dont get, is that mystery has done openers, negs, but thats about it. hasnt shown dhv's or anything, and this next episode is suppost to be kissing already. opener, neg, dhv, push pull, comfort, then cllosing. but w/e works. i think he jsut wants ratings, of shows how to kiss girls. heh.

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I'm new to the PUA world and I love the show. It just goes to show if these guys can do it(or at least trying) anyone can. I'm just trying to learn from these guys mistakes and pick up what mystery and the other guys are trying to preach.

The thing that I'm worried about is the openers, negs, and other secrets that they are teaching these guys, get exposed to the general public, and the women will be less likely to respond to them.

I don't know how many women watch the show, but I don't want to use something from it, and have a set or women say, " I heard that one on the PUA show or some other guy asked me the same question(opener). There was some good stuff on the show I would like to use. The one I really liked was the trick mystery showed Predib with circling the fingers, that one is MONEY!!! But I don't want to try it and have a target say "I saw that one on the PUA show".

Do you guys think the show will hurt the community?

I dont think the pua community will be blown out by this because they only show the tip of the iceberg on training. people are getting over hyped on this subject.

as for the show Im very disappointed Spoon left not even gettin eliminated. I think he had great potential. First and only asian to leave. You making us look bad Spoon! -_- ahah jk

looking forward to new episodes

thank god the uk doesn't have VH1

I like the bigger guy, i really hope he wins.


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I'll say it again, this topic isn't about the community being affected by the show. Please stay on topic.

Mystery isn't going to use the more advanced techniques in this show, he's only showing them basics.

Move on and come up with your own material!!! It's your own fault for getting busted for canned material.

I hope the bigger guy wins, so far he has demonstated the most overall most improvement imo. He also was imo the best with the kids, he got them with some movement (which could be translated into kino) he kept them interested (attraction) demonstated higher value (good story teller) and ya. Overall even though he is a bigger build than most men I like him the best, he just has overall charisma just seems to have been unleashed.

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