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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:35 am 
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Ok so Im a high school student and im really small only 5"7 and 150lbs. and theres this guy in my world lit who's about 6"4 250lbs and plays line on the football team. The true problem is not that he's bigger than me its the fact that he's and asshole and keeps putting his hands on my when im talking and trying to game this girl in class. He also is obssesive with the girl im gaming and crowds her literally. How do i get him to stop and get him to comply to me and respect me as alpha even though im half his size. I really don't like this guy and i want him to be my b*^&# and not say anything when im talking to the girls in class.


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Keep your cool. Even if you "HATE" the guy, you won't get any where if you let him get you pissed off. Even if you think you're visibly holding those emotions in, as long as you despise the guy, others will feel it. Little changes in your body language, facial gestures . . . these things are tough to control.

And once you play along with him(if you get pissed off, you are playing along with him) you're his LITTLE BITCH. Bullies love this shit because there is no way in hell little nice boys can keep up with at that level. You can't yell at the guy, you can't shove the guy . . . you're totally stuck.

Now . . . if he's more than just a large monkey and actually has a better verbal game than you, you're done. Move on to something else. Because if you can't come up with some aspect of yourself that is actually better than him, this is like asking, "John is stronger than me. How can I convince him that I am stronger?" - things just don't work this way. You can't lie through it.

If you do think you have a better "game", then relax . . . game the girl when he's not around. And chat with him and figure out what he's all about. . .

Otherwise, focus more on yourself and improving yourself rather than putting your energies on ONE girl and ONE large monkey.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:09 am 
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Maybe consider doing this: just try, when he is not present, exchange a few sentences with a girl you want to seduce, but tell her you don't like to talk in such boring places as school. Say you know a cute place to talk and you like being there, sso he may just come with you after classes and have a good time.


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I have a few ideas for your consideration.

1. Don't try to game the girl you want, but rather game the room. Game your entire Lit class, or at least a "set" of some sort within it. If you do this than the girl will see that you are popular, and maybe even more popular than the jock who is hanging all over her. Remember, you don't want to IOI before she earns it, so make her work for it. And suddenly, if you do this not only will she want to work to gain your attention as you have a higher SV, but the AMOG you are dealing with will do the same. I would try to be more indirect about it, maybe even try to game a few pawns, or if you have a girl who is just a friend, ask her to be your pivot. Don't try to fight for this girl's attention though, that's a DLV on your part.

2. Make it easy via peacocking for the AMOG to pick on you. This is something I do all the time when I go out, and it works very well for AMOGing and for shutting down girls who are being Bitchy as an ASD. I'm not big on peacocking, but I have a big leather bracelet that is large enough to draw attention. The way it works is either the AMOG or the girl using a Bitch defense will say something along the lines of "Nice Bracelet," or "I really like your bracelet, bro!" in a very sarcastic way. To this I simply respond "Thanks, man." This shows confidence on your part, but it's also a trap. They always, ALWAYS need to point out that they were being sarcastic and you look like a fag. That's exactly what you want. You say "Oh, well I'm sorry you don't like it but it was given to me by a very dear friend who is no longer with us. I wear it to remember him." This is a DHV, Social Proof, and will flip some of her switches all at the same time. She sees you have friends who care about you, they buy you gifts, you are a sweet and emotionally stable guy, and you are confident enough to wear something that has emotional meaning to you regardless of what people think. Best of all, when they hear you say that and the look of "holy shit, I'm an asshole" crosses the AMOGs face, he is totally blown out of the set. It works really well.

3. Finally, remember that you're not going to be able to beat him at what he is good at, like Kasabi said. All that means is you have to improve yourself, and find ways to DHV. I think your best bet is to open this girl when she is in a set, and preferably with the AMOG you are dealing with. Open them all with an opinion opener, false time constraint, DHV... etc. Follow the steps.

I don't know how long you have known this girl. Do you have comfort built already? Is she a 9 or 10? These things all effect the advice that can be given. But from what you've said and the way I picture things, that's what I would say. Good luck and let me know how it goes!

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Ok so Im a high school student and im really small only 5"7 and 150lbs. and theres this guy in my world lit who's about 6"4 250lbs and plays line on the football team. The true problem is not that he's bigger than me its the fact that he's and asshole and keeps putting his hands on my when im talking and trying to game this girl in class. He also is obssesive with the girl im gaming and crowds her literally. How do i get him to stop and get him to comply to me and respect me as alpha even though im half his size. I really don't like this guy and i want him to be my b*^&# and not say anything when im talking to the girls in class.

Remember that Darwin's theory of "survival of the fittest" doesn't necessarily mean that the biggest and stronget survive. It's those who can replicate their genes.

Anyway, to get back to the point, my best suggestion is to learn how to take the mickey out of yourself whenever he tries to AMOG/Shit Test? straight up embaress you.

If it's a high school jock, (im guessing of course) he makes fun of you, your stature, how you look etc. Simply just respond in a way which will disarm and TWIST their mind.


Example: I am pretty, and I get mistaken for gay on a regular basis by other men. One night, I was gaming an HB, when a guy who had a good 6 inches and 50 - 60 pounds on me came over and tried to AMOG me by asking the girl "Why would you want to be with this faggot."

Instead of panicking, freezing up, or stuttering I simply looked at him, smiled and said "Boy, I would break you IN HALF if I was gay" in turn, he looked confused, not understanding if I had just confirmed I was "gay", or if it was a joke, or if I was even hitting on him. While he was still trying to figure out what had just come out of my mouth, I simply turned back to the set and continued without any hesitancy, shut him out of the group and surely enough, he walked away.



Does that story get across to you?


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:24 am 
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Kasabi gave me the best of advice i was wearing my flashy black peacoatish jacket and the guy said "you look cute in that jacket and by cute i mean gay hahaha..." i said "I know man girls love it" Then i asked "what were you saying about gays you know i have a gay cousin? Froze him and proceeded to a # close on girl today.


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Well done man! That's the kind of stuff I like to hear! Keep us up to date on your progress.

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