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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:51 pm 
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Many people ask about how to get rid of AA.

The most common answers are:
Just get in there and crash and burn.
You will never get rid of it.
Experience.
Inner game.

These are all true... BUT! It does not really help the one who is asking. Because the one asking does not really ask for how to get rid of it, he already knows how to get rid of it. What he is asking for is "How do I get rid of AA without feeling inconvenient along the way?".

Is there a way, maybe, maybe not. Maybe you could spend money on a psychologist, maybe you dont want to do that.

I believe that as a newbie struggling with AA you need to take a step back, look at yourself. Breathe.
Ask yourself these questions:
- How bad do I want this?
- How much am I willing to suffer in order to reach my goal?
- Am I ready to give it higher priority than staying in your comfort zone?
- Am I ready to do what it takes even if it hurts or am I going to back out when it gets hard?
- Can I face my fear?

You need to make a choice! Are you in or are you out?
If you are in then you have already accepted that you will suffer and will not chicken out when challenged. You kicking AA has a higher priority than your dignity.
If you are out, get yourself another hobby. You can not skip the approach step and practice just the other phases. There is no easy path to mastery.

Make the choice.

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You need to make a choice! Are you in or are you out?
If you are in then you have already accepted that you will suffer and will not chicken out when challenged. You kicking AA has a higher priority than your dignity.
If you are out, get yourself another hobby. You can not skip the approach step and practice just the other phases. There is no easy path to mastery.

Make the choice.

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Something I tell a few guys I've been helping along is to run game in their social circle. Not necessarily strict game with intent to close, but especially the openers. With a bit of practice on sets that are guaranteed not to try and close you out you can work out some of the kinks of speaking the story, the order, your body language, your speech pattern, and you can get a myriad of reactions and learn how to deal with each. The next step then, is to use the opener on a set when you are out running serious game. This way you've rehearsed it a little bit with a realistic audience and you can get more comfortable with what you saying and how you are saying it.

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Here are two ways.

1. Booze and lots of it.

2. The more sensible way. Go out with a buddy. Both put 70 quid into a pot. For each of the first 3 sets you open you get 20 quid back. The person who stays in any set the longest over the course of the entire night wins the last 10 quid.


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thanks Ezo for the post. You are bang on the mark.

I am looking to start doing day game and just today was working on my game plan. I was looking at possible lines to run and openers and of course including a time constraint and some cocky funny to throw in. There are a lot of variables but
I am going to go in prepared which should increase my chances of getting a number close.

I am running around the park for about an hour. Hopefully I won´t have to run much more because I might just have heart attack, which certainly wouldn´t help my success rate.

There usually are some babes running on their own or in twos.
It is incredible the difference in approachign with no plan, to taking into account otherthigns. What you are going to say, how you are going to DHV etc. it GIVES YOU MUCH MORE CONFIDENCE. Some of the things that she is going to say are going to already taken into consideration so it is easier. You feel more comfortable and stronger and this in itself is a DHV.

In my club game I am in midgame and have had some excellent results so I don´t expect to get closes immediately. But I certainly am in and have made the choice.

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Well, rulebreaker... I also ran "game" in my social circle before I really went out as much as I do now... And I so wish that I hadnt. It creates a lot of awkward situations. I still remember all of these moments with pain since I made myself look like a complete idiot in front of everyone that I cared about. Out alone is better, those people are easily forgotten. Nowadays I only get nervous if someone I know is near...


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Thanks for the post man

it made me realize a few things


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I feel like the best way to defeat AA is to just realize that you are probably never going to see 99% of the people you open again, and even if you do they probably won't remember anything stupid that you do. So who the f cares!


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Finally someone that knows. Ezo I completely agree. Thats how I progressed and actually gained some legit status in this field. Guys are just to worried about crashing and burning, really its like who cares. The person you approach and C&B with won't remember after a day anyway, so who cares. Just do it, as NIKE once eloquently said.


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Hey guys

Approach Anxiety is such a big topic in pick up. I am a hypnotherapist and I work with guys every week on this subject. What I have found is that everyone's AA is different and gets triggered by different things.

Think of it like this, what does approach anxiety allow me to avoid doing? What sort of person gets approach anxiety? What is the worst thing that can happen? At what point does the aproach anxiety start and when is it worst?

When I deal with guys, some of them can walk up to girls and start talking but anxiety kicks in when there is a silence. Other people get so worked up about approach anxiety that they are even unable to walk up and speak to anyone.

You need to work out where the edge of your limits are. For example can you talk to a man you don't know? Can you talk to a girl you are not attracted to? At what point does the AA actually start? When it starts, what emotions are there? What makes it worse?

I have now worked with hundreds of guys and my best advice is to see a professional about AA. People can spend months, even years with this problem yet it is so treatable.

The problem is how your brain is wired. At the moment something sets off the alarm system that triggers all of your panic mechanisms. When you panic you start to react emotionally from the reptilian part of the brain, this in turns cuts off the communication with the cerebral cortex where your creative side is. Your brain is designed to be as efficient as possible, therefore it will always take the path of least resistance. The past of least resistance is what you have already have done in the past. The more times you do it, the thicker the neurological pathway becomes, so it happens even faster and easier.

OK so enough psychobabble, what does this actually mean and how can guys overcome approach anxiety? Firstly I would find out what causes the anxiety and work on that. There are lots of methods available from Tony Robbins through to prescribed drugs. Unfortunately these methods only have a short term relief, therefore I would suggest seeing a hypnotist as they can help to break the pattern behavior very quickly and easily.

You then need to start practicing your conversational skills with EVERYONE! You CAN NOT just be good at speaking with girls!!! You need to be a sociable person who can talk and hold a conversation with anyone, any age, race or religion. This starts to change how your brain is structured and is less likely to set off a panic response when talking to a girl.

Finally you need to remove the pressure from conversations. Walking up to a girl on the street or in a club is quite high pressure. Warm opening are much much better. So think about what activities you can do, societies you can join and events you can go to. Instead of trying to number or kiss close, go for a friend close and even facebook close. The more friends you have, the more people you are introduced to.

Ok guys I have a client arriving in 5 minutes but I need to shoot. I highly recommend the PUA Training stuff, the homestudy course and the bootcamps. I am currently involved in the residential courses working with the guys on that.

I am based in London should you need my help. My website is in my sig.

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I'll have to read this every time I get discouraged.

Thx fellas


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“The Truth About Approach Anxiety”

by Cory Skyy

Guys often ask me, “Cory, how do you teach your students to get over approach anxiety?”

The answer always amazes them.

“I don’t. There is no such thing as approach anxiety.”

I’ll admit it. I lose a lot of guys at this point. They think I’m crazy. Problem is, they’ve read reams of articles and posts by “community” guys on the internet and nothing—absolutely NOTHING—will convince them that there is no such thing as approach anxiety.

“Approach anxiety” is not a medical or scientific term. It was invented by the community to identify the feelings of nervousness guys feel when about to approach an attractive woman.

Well, I’m here to say that it’s all a bunch of B.S.

Even though many guys think I’m full of it when I say this, I don’t care. Because the ones who really “get it” stick around to hear what I have to say. This is the 2% who are willing to hear something different and aren’t brainwashed by a million internet posts.

These guys usually become my best students. They’re willing to think outside the community box and take chances on something that actually requires them to put in some effort.

Truth is, what I teach is not easy. It’s not for the faint of heart. It requires dedication, determination, persistence, and practice.

But the fact is, once I’m done with a student, he doesn’t even recognize the phrase “approach anxiety”.

When you walk through the world as a confident and powerful man… a man who drips sexuality everywhere he goes… you don’t need to approach. You don’t need lines. You don’t need hypnotic phrases. You don’t need routines.

It’s true. Attraction is the most normal gift given to all of humanity. It’s been around thousands of years before the first pickup “guru” wrote a post on the internet.

It’s within you right now. You were born with it.

So what’s the problem? It’s that society has taught you to hide the sexual giant that resides within you. We have been conditioned by B.S. “rules” that teach men to be whiny butt-kissers. When it comes time to actually exude some sexuality, the “rules” kick in—causing a conflict in our brains.

That’s where the anxiety comes from.

For example, I personally have zero “approach anxiety”. When I walk into a bar… heck, when I walk into a supermarket… women are immediately checking me out.

Any one of them are willing to talk to me so I don’t even need to walk up to them and start talking. Even in the supermarket, I can get them to hover near me by communicating sexuality through eye contact. I never even think about approaching.

This is what I teach my students.

And it’s powerful. Two years ago, if you told me I’d be teaching guys how to do this I would have said, “No way! You can’t teach that. You either have it or you don’t.”

But the results I get—from guys who initially thought I was full of B.S.—are stunning. I myself am constantly amazed at how many seemingly-hopeless guys can transform themselves from shaky balls of anxiety into men that drip sexuality… with just a little coaching.

Learn how to awaken the sexual giant within and you’ll forget what the phrase “approach anxiety” even means



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Approach anxiety is a real problem in my game.

I dont especially like clubs. They are noisy places where you can barely hear people talk. I go to clubs because it is a place whre you can approach girls in abundance.

I spend 4 hours "on the job" and possibly 5 minutes in set.

this means that I am over 99% of the time farting about due to the dreaded approach anxiety.

I could put this valuable time to use if I were stronger by opening more sets, which a) would give me valuable practise and b) would put my time to better use.

I have a couple of girls as a social pivot who I meet there every time. At first I felt self conscios sarging with them "seeing my attempts" but now I see it as an advantage having em there. It means I am a guy who can be with chics and of course the other babes see me with two girls and of course think automatically that I am banging them both!!

As fas as approach anxiety is concerned, I have found that I do the approach when I truly accept that failure is fine, that failure could happen but wouldnt matter.

Next night sarging I am going to treat the whole thing a bit more intelligently and take action. I am goign to be a bit more indifferent and have a tougher skin. In taking action, in doing the approach I am installing or downloading the program to get chics. I will learn and review positively my mistakes to get as much out of them as possible.

Anxiety will continue to haunt me but true courage is not action in the absence of fear but taking action in the presence of fear.

Good luck and may the force be with you.


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Approach anxiety is a real problem in my game.

I dont especially like clubs. They are noisy places where you can barely hear people talk. I go to clubs because it is a place whre you can approach girls in abundance.

I spend 4 hours "on the job" and possibly 5 minutes in set.

this means that I am over 99% of the time farting about due to the dreaded approach anxiety.

I could put this valuable time to use if I were stronger by opening more sets, which a) would give me valuable practise and b) would put my time to better use.

I have a couple of girls as a social pivot who I meet there every time. At first I felt self conscios sarging with them "seeing my attempts" but now I see it as an advantage having em there. It means I am a guy who can be with chics and of course the other babes see me with two girls and of course think automatically that I am banging them both!!

As fas as approach anxiety is concerned, I have found that I do the approach when I truly accept that failure is fine, that failure could happen but wouldnt matter.

Next night sarging I am going to treat the whole thing a bit more intelligently and take action. I am goign to be a bit more indifferent and have a tougher skin. In taking action, in doing the approach I am installing or downloading the program to get chics. I will learn and review positively my mistakes to get as much out of them as possible.

Anxiety will continue to haunt me but true courage is not action in the absence of fear but taking action in the presence of fear.

Good luck and may the force be with you.

Dude, read my freakin post man. :?


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My my...

First off, I do not have much problems with AA myself... Just to get into the discussion from that angle. Yes, the AA term was invented by the community. That does not mean that it is not true. Yeah, it is true that society and cultural heritage teaches us to be buttkissers, underdogs etc... So thats where AA comes from then? Maybe. Does it matter? NO!

AA is real. So this man loses students and only about 2% of them admit that there is no such thing as AA. Ok, so maybe they are the ones without AA in the first place. Point is that this teaching is very selective, it only fits the ones who have the right background. Natural, yes. But this man makes a point of basically saying, dont be a pussy. Sure, thats what we all try to teach, in different ways. The only thing he does different is to release the students who does need AA coaching.

And, no it is not the ONLY way. I am sure that you are impressed with it and that you are successful with it but try to keep an open mind. It is disrespectful for the people suffering from AA to just tell them that the pain they feel is imaginary. Yes, it is a psychological way to keep you from approaching and it is all in your head... That does not make it any less real.

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