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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:28 pm 
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Whether directly stated or implied subtly, the notion that a man should sleep with a woman he's interested in as soon as possible is present in almost every aspect of the pickup community. It is the primary focus of 99% of the material that attraction gurus have to offer and it simmers just below the surface of nearly all the literature I've ever seen on the subject of dating. Why is this?

Well, certainly a good portion of aspiring and practicing PUAs desire simply to lay as many women as possible as quickly as they can; and I'm not here to dissuade them from that goal, assuming it's really what they want and not something they think they "have" to do. But there are others who want real relationships--perhaps even, dare I say it, exclusive girlfriends-- who are still following this unspoken rule that as soon as a girl will let you into her panties, you must dive in enthusiastically or undoubtedly you'll suffer being relegated to the dreaded "friends zone."

Well my friends, I think that's all bullshit, and I'd like to propose a daring counter-argument: Anticipation of great sex is a far more effective hook than great sex alone.

What does this mean? Simply put, it is possible to make a woman's desire for you grow to unimaginable heights if you don't give her what she wants exactly when she wants it. Yes, cat-string theory applies to the bedroom as well.

If you will, imagine the chemistry between you and a woman as steam in a pressure-cooker. If you give it some time, it will continue to build and grow until removing the lid results in a giant and far more climactic explosion of escaping moisture than if you were to vent the lid after only a short time. Do this in the right way, while continually escalating but never quite giving her exactly what she wants, and all of a sudden you're cooking with thermonuclear power :D

With this theory in mind, I humbly present to you my favorite way of building this sort of all-consuming sexual desire: the no-sex sex gambit.

It starts with a simple role reversal. As things are heating up and it's time to move to the bedroom, stop suddenly and warn her, "I'm not sleeping with you tonight." Now, no woman in a million years has ever heard this come out of a man's mouth. After all, it's the woman's role to protest, right? If you had attraction before, now you really have her attention.

Continue to move toward the bed and escalate as if you had never said you weren't sleeping with her. Once you're laying down, possibly with a few clothes off, tell her, "In fact, I want to play a game," and then explain the following rules to her.

1) Every method of foreplay and seduction is on the table except actual sex, meaning no penis-to-vagina contact.

2) The goal is to make the other person give in before you, i.e. "Oh my god 870 I can't take it anymore, **** me right now!" Both parties are to put out as much effort as possible to this end, using all the tools at their disposal.

3) Whoever caves first loses. Or wins. I'm not sure which ;)

Next, break your foreplay skills out and make her crazy. She will usually be freaking out and ready to cave in about 10 minutes but try to draw it out as long as possible (I have personally drawn it out as long as a week--man, what a great week!). "Uh uh, I said I wasn't sleeping with you tonight, remember?" You get the idea. I have personally field tested this tons of times and it's always gotten fantastic results.

*Word to the wise: stock up on Neosporin and bandaids ahead of time in preparation for all the scratches on your back when you guys finally do have sex ;)

As always, any feedback, input, etc. (especially if you can think of a better name for the game lol) is more than welcome. I'd particularly like to hear what the ladies on the board think about this.

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Great post !!

A great lesson to great sex.

I always say that the key to great sex is great foreplay....

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Anticipation of great sex is a far more effective hook than great sex alone.

101% accurate. I've read numerous times that the idea of sex, or the thought of it is much more appealing than the physical act for a woman.

I believe it was Ice T that said 'sex is 90% mental'. 8)

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Fantastic. No more needs to be said.


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I love this post! Im gonna try it ASAP!

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This is a good post and I do agree....but of course, I do have to contest one nuance of your theory. Attraction is more powerful than sex to a degree (call it a relative argument if you must but that is only because it IS relevant). I don't think that it is a linear relation meaning that attraction does not keep growing as sex is put off. Eventually, if sex is put off too long, attraction will decline. I think you would agree with that and may even have implied it, I just wanted to state it.

Also, a lot can be accomplished with foreplay and many women find oral sex more pleasurable than actual sex. I mean, they still will want sex, but it is possible to make a woman happy with just oral sex.

All in all I agree with your theory, and I like that you are adding another perspective to the forum.


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Great post!

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I agree completely with you!

I think a lot of emphasis is placed on speed seduction (closing as soon as possible after meeting) in the community, and speed seduction has it's pro's and con's. A pro would be getting your nut faster, a con being it's probably gonna be a one night stand. I think speed seduction is harder, especially for people with my mentality, so I actually have been doing more prolonged C game since the start. I actually don't mind waiting, so long as I don't fuck things up, and from what I've noticed, this sort of game usually provides a deeper attraction and REPEATED one night stands! :)

Interesting topic. It's always good to see the other styles of the same game!

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Sex starts in the mind, not in the body. Sexual arousal in both men and women is caused by chemicals being released into the bloodstream, and the mind is what triggers that release of specific chemicals. "Chemistry" is pretty accurate in reality.

I think good foreplay includes a good mind-fuck. :lol: And I need to put that into action more frequently, now that I think about it.

I just texted this lady friend that I met recently...we made out for quite a while at her house, but no sex. She's heading off on a trip Thurs and said she'd call me when she got back. I just texted her and said "Wouldn't you like to get on your plane Thurs with a glowing smile on your face?". She texted me back and said "You're bad!" Hmm...I think I'm going to simply not reply to her text and see what she does. :lol: I hope she's sitting there thinking about getting laid the rest of the afternoon... :twisted: We'll see if I get some hot and juicy text later today...

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I see 1000 ways for this to only go bad.
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I see 1000 ways for this to only go bad.
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Could you elaborate? I don't have enough experience to say that it is a good idea or that it is a bad idea, but I do have considerable trust for 870's wisdom. I'd like to hear the meat of your objection rather than vague doomsaying.

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Reo...point taken. However, here's the thing...if she ends up fucking my brains out before she leaves for her trip, cool. If not, that's fine too. I don't care one way or the other. I think this is a good spot to be in... 8)

However, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts, so please do post and elaborate!

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Its as simple as this:
A lesson taught to me by my Dad

An man comes to you offers you 1 million dollars today in cash. Then he tells you if you wait to meet me 3 months I'll give you 20million.
Which offer do you take?

Young Reo: I'll wait for 20 million dollars!!
Dad: Alright....this man dies within 3 months. You could've had 1 million dollars now you have nothing.

The lesson here is you have to take into account all the possible consequences and misfortunes that can arise by waiting.

You got to begin with the end result in mind. You want to have sex with a girl(the end). Putting the obstacle such "time" in your way is bad. Believing a girl is just 100% attracted to you and only is imaginary not reality. The "time" you're playing around can cause all your hard work to be undone. You Leave her with time to reevaluate your non aggressive attitude and annoying personality. Leaves her time to meet another man who is willing to have sex with her just hours after leaving your house or she thinks you're a wuss for not having sex with her and tosses your phone number.


I had a girlfriend not too long ago who dropped a dude because he wanted to wait to have sex(yes they made out). She talk so bad about this guy for not pulling her panties down and fuckin her he got labled a loser, btw she was over my house this same night at 1am after the incident with this guy occured and Yes I fucked her and that guy never got any he was trying real hard to later on and he ended up developing a bad case of oneitis over it and became a bit stalkerish. He never had the chance at it again.

Once you've had sex with a girl a connection is made, the flaws of your personality which you have yet to reveal will be overlooked or forgiven you have a claim over her now and you're on a different level. Versus the guys who wastes "time" to have sex with her after its been offered he'll be judged and has a strong chance of being cut off access to the goodies forever.

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I can only speak from personal experience on this, but I have played this game with LOTS of different women and I can't remember a single time I ended up not sleeping with her afterward. As Bonita pointed out when I originally posted this thread, you can't delay sex forever because at some point the doubts and negative thoughts Reo outlined in his post will eventually creep up. Then again, who wants to delay sex forever? This isn't about avoiding getting laid, it's just a fun game that will turn you both on more than simply fucking.

Is there a chance she might storm out of the room and never call you again? I guess maybe there is, but probably not any more chance than a girl getting offended and blowing you out when you tease her too much. To get anywhere in seduction, you have to be willing to lose everything.

Big risks, big rewards. Fortune favors the bold.

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