Hey, I am new to the game and went out sarging with 2 good friends of mine for the first time at the mall (we are underaged), and we had no problem with aproaching and appearing confident and generally making them laugh. But all the girls we approached were in pairs, and we couldnt isolate the target to eventually work towards a number close.

Any suggestions would be well aprietiated.

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I'd probably say that the mall isn't a very good place to isolate, mostly because of the fact that I don't know many people past the age of 16 that go to the mall to hang out. Most people just go there because they need something. But after reading this post it made me think of a routine that I think could actually work quite well. Note that its not feild tested, but try it and let me know how it works.

Alright, so say you are in American Eagle or really any cloths store (AE will be my example for this though) and you are already talking to them getting a good vibe, now its time to isolate. Grab your target by the hand and be like "Lets play a game, me and you against those two (talking about your friend and the other girl)." The game is "Who can be the hottest AE couple, only catch is I pick out your cloths and you pick out my cloths (talking to the target)." If they agree, which I assume they will because it seems like a fun game, then part ways with your friend and his girl, and bam isolation.

So I was kind of having trouble putting my thoughts into words right there, but I think you get the basic idea of what I'm saying. If anyone wants to write that in a more understandable way feel free lol.

Again this is not feild tested, so don't come back all pissed at me if it didn't work!

The mall would be tough...here is what I would try to do. After initial approach let say you and your wing open a three set. Sit down somewhere and talk some more to build comfort. Fluff for about 10 minutes or so, engaging the entire set but ignoring and negging your target to an extent. Get some IOI's from the target (three?) then move everyone to a music/movie store to poke around some. Get the entire group on on side of the store then say something to the target like "I've got to show you this poster with a lizard on it over here!" and put out your hand for her to take it. When she does, lead her over to the other side of the store for some one-on-one time to number close and mabey even kiss close. Make sure your wing knows to keep the other two on his side of the store by engauging them.

The only downside I see is a group of kids huddleing together will freak out store personel and make them think you are there to rip them off. You may even want to scope out a couple of stores before hand to come up with a plan and even introduce yourself and let the people there know what you are doing...they may even help you out by helping build DHV when you enter the store by waving or something.

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if it is only a pair of gils you shouldnt have to isolate, jst be fun intresting and confident, should be able to get no. close then concentrate on escalating at a later date

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the big problem is takign the whole 'target/obstacle/isolation' approach to day game.


you can number close the two of them, is that really a problem? you end up with two numbers instead of one, and if its becasue the obstacle is unattractive..then you just never call her

win-win

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exactly what i was going to say.. whatever happen to TEAMWORK?? haha.. LOL.. but for realz.. why not get both numbers instead of just one?.. at least you have the option of not calling one if she's unattractive..

when i was a youngin workin at the mall.. girls still come to the store paired up.. realistically nobody goes to the mall.. in their teens alone.. since they don't want to be judge as a LONER!.. so i had to work twice as hard since i didn't know PU and there were two girls.. but I could still number close...