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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:51 pm 
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Sile,

Just to be clear . . . what you've been doing has zero to do with the initial post. Thus, your reflection on my post is off base as well. Read the initial post again carefully but I don't think where you are right now is a match with this particular gig.

Also . . . in general, this game is much better suited for sexually charged places like clubs and bars where you it's perfectly acceptable to sexually escalate to the point of nearly fucking her.


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Also . . . in general, this game is much better suited for sexually charged places like clubs and bars where you it's perfectly acceptable to sexually escalate to the point of nearly fucking her.
False. I've had most success with it during day game.


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LOL . . .

I'm going to go out on the limb here and probably bet that you've actually tried this MORE during the day than you have at night in clubs and bars.

It's been my experience that all things being the same, girls are much quicker to pull the trigger at night. They go to clubs and bars thinking that sex is always a possibility. Even if it's a 1 in a ___ chance, they tend to get ready for it just in case.

A girl that goes to the mall during her lunch break could have just shat in the morning and obviously didn't have the time to shower. Not only do they not expect it, they tell themselves, no way am I exposing my stinky panties to a stranger.

. . . Things might be different on a college campus.


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. . . Things might be different on a college campus.
Sorry I forgot to mention that the day game I did in those instances were of the college game variety :oops:

College day game = omg so easy with this shit


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Chief; Congratulations

I think this is an amazing post and is right on. I just finished reading it and I look forward to interacting with you. This feels right.

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Chief:

The standard model is Attraction, Comfort and then Seduction. Can the sexual framing as you mention begin right after Attraction phase. I used to follow the A,C,S model than I got very good at seduction and started going from A to Sexual framing. Inthe seduction stage I would do a lot of Push & Pull. The push stage would be to built that level of comfort with the girl and this would lead to having almost 0% LMR.

I have had a lot of success with this but I still want to know whether this is a good way to think about it. The A,C,S model is very slow, as in it gets you the same result but it takes a longer time.

What do you think?


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So I went all Gunwitch Method/info. from this post/Ciaran's Shock and Awe technique on these two girls in UM's main cafeteria. HBConn said "You are a very sexual person :wink: . I admit I was a little unprepared for that. When an HB says something like that, how do ya'll generally respond?

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So I went all Gunwitch Method/info. from this post/Ciaran's Shock and Awe technique on these two girls in UM's main cafeteria. HBConn said "You are a very sexual person :wink: . I admit I was a little unprepared for that. When an HB says something like that, how do ya'll generally respond?
Stay in character with the shock and awe and escalate


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Riddle me this, Chief.

In traditional pickup methods, which you describe as unnecessarily tedious, you're flipping switches that may also have more important ramifications after the first sexual encounter, if you choose to have further, closer relations with a particular woman.

You note that flipping these switches allows a woman to back-justify having sex with you after you execute the seduction later. This supposes that the woman has regrets or would have had regrets about the sexual encounter. To me, this suggests that the technique you're describing is more appropriate for short-term sexual relationships and may hamper further development of the relationship.

Yes, a woman might also back-justify an emotional response based on her sexual response, but that seems somewhat less likely to me. Therefore, using the slower, traditional method would seem to provide the foundation for a greater variety of outcomes following the first sexual encounter in exchange for the greater investment of effort.
Yes. I agree wholeheartedly with this. Those that use mystery method call that buyers remorse. If you're doing it this way, you've gotta have a mindset like, "Jesus, I wanna fuck her. Tonight." So you execute some sexual framing, build tension, and boom, you're in the sack. I'm not saying that this is bad, it does seem like the ultimate goal. But if you want to date her, or even get her to return your calls, you might have to do a little 'groundwork'. You have to not be afraid to use a woman. Although, you're technically using each other.

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Right on Whisper. If you think you might be using a women, than you are fucked and you won't get anywhere? It really depends on your situation, I am a virgin and would really like to have sex, no matter what it takes. Yes, I have standards but I am not at all above using Fools Mate type game to get laid. Once I have become sick of Fools Mate and shit, than maybe I will change and go to something slower, where I can flip all of those attraction switches because I am looking for more than just a lay. Also Whisper, this shit that Chief is speaking of can be thrown into normal conversation. It can smooth the process out towards getting laid even if you are looking something a bit deeper than that. It probably takes some willingness to go a little deeper to get laid and that is fine. It would probably lessen buyers remorse whatnot. I suppose if you can't do as Ross Jeffries says and "Leave her better than when you found her," than maybe she is not worth your dick, or for that matter, your time.

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Well worth a 45 minute read lol.

I'm a bit confused though, could you explain the difference between complimenting like the links you gave did and complimenting like an AFC.

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Sorry about that. I'll answer this question now.

Imagine tasting a small spoonful of your favorite flavor ice cream in the whole wide world and multiply the awesomeness of that flavor tenfold. You feel the delicious molecules from the food tickling your taste buds as you ascend into oral ecstasy. How do you feel about that? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I like it. I want more."

Now imagine getting a bank statement that says you are almost in the red. Your monetary funds have depleted for whatever reason. You feel a panicking sensation emerge from within your center of gravity, knowing that you need to find something to fill that massive hole in your bank account. You see a rich man walk by wearing a fucking suit made of 100 dollar bills. You find yourself practically gravitating toward this man. How do you feel about this? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I need it. I want it."

Expressing sexuality and desire like an alpha male is like getting a small taste of the ice cream that is woman through simply looking at her. He wants more because it feels good. He tells her that she's sexy because he means it. His penis means it.

Complimenting like an AFC is exactly like having a sense of lack, thinking that you can replenish your self-esteem by essentially taking some from a beautiful woman. He sees her and feels some sort of hope that maybe, JUST MAYBE, she can save him from validation bankruptcy. He tells her that she's sexy because he wants something from her.
okay i was wondering if you saw my question :P

thanks a bunch man, makes more sense now !! :D


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this thread is just what i was looking for. good job everybody who put insight into it.


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definitely a legit post. thanks!

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hmmmm
does anybody have videos of this being used??
im not doubting it at all, id just love to see it
Right here, buddy:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQiRtJ6uumk[/youtube]

I totally overlooked this question from the first page:
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Well worth a 45 minute read lol.

I'm a bit confused though, could you explain the difference between complimenting like the links you gave did and complimenting like an AFC.

Thanks

-Ghetto
Sorry about that. I'll answer this question now.

Imagine tasting a small spoonful of your favorite flavor ice cream in the whole wide world and multiply the awesomeness of that flavor tenfold. You feel the delicious molecules from the food tickling your taste buds as you ascend into oral ecstasy. How do you feel about that? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I like it. I want more."

Now imagine getting a bank statement that says you are almost in the red. Your monetary funds have depleted for whatever reason. You feel a panicking sensation emerge from within your center of gravity, knowing that you need to find something to fill that massive hole in your bank account. You see a rich man walk by wearing a fucking suit made of 100 dollar bills. You find yourself practically gravitating toward this man. How do you feel about this? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I need it. I want it."

Expressing sexuality and desire like an alpha male is like getting a small taste of the ice cream that is woman through simply looking at her. He wants more because it feels good. He tells her that she's sexy because he means it. His penis means it.

Complimenting like an AFC is exactly like having a sense of lack, thinking that you can replenish your self-esteem by essentially taking some from a beautiful woman. He sees her and feels some sort of hope that maybe, JUST MAYBE, she can save him from validation bankruptcy. He tells her that she's sexy because he wants something from her.
So how do you not complement like an AFC? ANd what would be the main differences in the compliments between the AFC and Alpha?


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Imagine tasting a small spoonful of your favorite flavor ice cream in the whole wide world and multiply the awesomeness of that flavor tenfold. You feel the delicious molecules from the food tickling your taste buds as you ascend into oral ecstasy. How do you feel about that? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I like it. I want more."

Now imagine getting a bank statement that says you are almost in the red. Your monetary funds have depleted for whatever reason. You feel a panicking sensation emerge from within your center of gravity, knowing that you need to find something to fill that massive hole in your bank account. You see a rich man walk by wearing a fucking suit made of 100 dollar bills. You find yourself practically gravitating toward this man. How do you feel about this? You open your mouth and the following words flow out: "I need it. I want it."

Expressing sexuality and desire like an alpha male is like getting a small taste of the ice cream that is woman through simply looking at her. He wants more because it feels good. He tells her that she's sexy because he means it. His penis means it.

Complimenting like an AFC is exactly like having a sense of lack, thinking that you can replenish your self-esteem by essentially taking some from a beautiful woman. He sees her and feels some sort of hope that maybe, JUST MAYBE, she can save him from validation bankruptcy. He tells her that she's sexy because he wants something from her.
So how do you not complement like an AFC? ANd what would be the main differences in the compliments between the AFC and Alpha?
The main thing to take away from this is that your actions will always reflect, in one way or another, your internal state (what you are actually feeling).

The best way to compliment like a PUA, or to not compliment like an AFC, is to first and foremost control your emotions. For this I recommend practicing self control and getting in touch with your emotions. You can achieve mastery of these esoteric disciplines through things like meditation and an art form like music (that's what I did). Once you get a grasp of that, you'll be able to control your emotions well enough so that you can feel like that guy who tasted his favorite ice cream rather than the guy who lost all his money in the economic recession. To reiterate my point from earlier:
guy who tasted ice cream = alpha PUA
guy who lost all his money = AFC

Alternatively, you can try to force your actions in a way that just LOOKS like you are being alpha, but even so you will still come off as awkward because millions of subconscious micro body language cues and stuff like that will betray you. Women are at least ten times better at catching these cues (they call it "women's intuition") than men, so it's easier to take the path I recommended.

Verbally, sometimes there is no difference between a compliment from an AFC and one from an alpha male. There are obviously some things that AFCs say more than alpha males and vice versa, but the main difference is the feeling you give off from subconsciously projecting your internal state (which you are always doing whether you like it or not).

I'll write a more detailed article about mastering your emotions and shit like that later, so watch out for that. I'll edit this post to provide a link once I do that.


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